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[Whites72]

@JK don't rate bryn gatland at all except for the fact he can kick

[Stargazer]

Damn, the Canes better not disappoint!

[Stargazer]

So we have all teams in this thread:

CRUSADERS SQUAD

PROPS
Michael Alaalatoa
Wyatt Crockett
Oliver Jager
Joe Moody
Tim Perry
Owen Franks

HOOKERS
Ben Funnell
Andrew Makalio
Codie Taylor

LOCKS
Scott Barrett
Luke Romano
Quinten Strange
Sam Whitelock
LOOSE FORWARDS
Heiden Bedwell-Curtis
Jed Brown
Mitchell Dunshea
Kieran Read
Pete Samu
Jordan Taufua
Matt Todd

HALFBACKS
Mitchell Drummond
Leon Fukofuka
Bryn Hall

FIRST FIVE-EIGHTHS
Tim Bateman
Marty McKenzie
Richie Mo'unga

MIDFIELD BACKS
Ryan Crotty
Jack Goodhue
David Havili
Seta Tamanivalu
Sean Wainui

OUTSIDE BACKS
George Bridge
Israel Dagg
Sione Fifita
Mitchell Hunt
Digby Ioane
Jone Macilai
Manasa Mataele

http://crusaders.co.nz/news/1026-2017-heralds-new-era-for-bnz-crusaders

[Daffy Jaffy]

The 2017 Hurricanes Investec Super Rugby squad is:

FORWARDS (22): Props (6): Chris Eves (Manawatu), Reggie Goodes (Wellington), Ben May (Hawke's Bay), Jeffery Toomaga-Allen (Wellington), Loni Uhila (Waikato), Mike Kainga (Taranaki). Hookers (3): Dane Coles (Wellington) (c), Leni Apisai (Wellington), Ricky Riccitelli (Hawke's Bay). Locks (5): Mark Abbott (Hawke's Bay), James Broadhurst (Taranaki), Geoffrey Cridge (Hawke's Bay), Michael Fatialofa, (Auckland), Sam Lousi (Wellington) *. Loose forwards: (8) Callum Gibbins (Manawatu), Vaea Fifita (Wellington), Reed Prinsep (Canterbury) *, Hugh Renton (Hawke's Bay), Ardie Savea (Wellington), Brad Shields (Wellington), Blade Thomson (Taranaki), Toa Halafihi (Taranaki) **. BACKS (16): Halfbacks (3): TJ Perenara (Wellington), Te Toiroa Tahuiorangi (Taranaki), Kylem O'Donnell (Taranaki) *. First five-eighth: (2) Beauden Barrett (Taranaki), Otere Black (Manawatu). Midfield: (4) Vince Aso (Auckland), Ngani Laumape (Manawatu), Matt Proctor (Wellington), Pita Ahki (North Harbour), Wes Goosen (Wellington). Outside backs (6): Cory Jane (Wellington), Julian Savea (Wellington), Ben Lam (Wellington) *, Nehe Milner-Skudder (Manawatu), Peter Umaga-Jensen (Wellington) **. Utility back: (1) Jordie Barrett ** (Canterbury).

[Stargazer]

So now the big question is: are all these players on full contracts? In other words, have they omitted WTG players? Is there still a possibility that players, who missed out (Jonah Lowe, for example), will get a chance somewhere?

[KiwiMurph]

Im pretty certain the above squads include Wider Training Group players.

Of course players get brought in from outside of these squads during the season due to injury.

Broadhurst named in the Canes - interesting - hopefully his concussion woes are behind him.

[Whites72]

@Stargazer Jonah Lowe,visinia,waa and little are the biggest shocks in my opinion not to make any squads plus Caleb makene

[Tim]

The Blues squad has 38 players, so it'd have to include the WTG players too.

[Tim]

So, who missed out? Starting from last year's players:

Hoani Matenga
Jack Ram
Matt McGahan
Lolagi Visinia
Tevita Kolomatangi
Tim Boys
Ross Geldenhuys
Micheal Little
Tony Lambourn
Namatahi Waa

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Chris Vui
Jonah Lowe
Ereatara Enari
Bryn Gatland
Sam Vaka
Cardiff Vaega
Joe Tupe
Matt Matich
Gafatasi Su’a
Chris Smylie

NZ Maori:

Jacob Skeen
Joe Royal
Leighton Price
Marcel Renata
Whetu Douglas

In Australia:

Jackson Garden-Bachop
Cullum Retallick

[Tim]

NZ TAB odds for next year.

1 Hurricanes 4.50
2 Chiefs 5.00
3 Crusaders 5.50
4 Highlanders 5.50
5 Lions 7.50
6 Brumbies 9.00
7 Stormers 12.00
8 Sharks 15.00
9 Waratahs 18.00
10 Blues 21.00
11 Bulls 26.00
12 Jaguares 51.00
13 Reds 61.00
14 Cheetahs 61.00
15 Rebels 61.00
16 Force 151.00
17 Sunwolves 251.00
18 Kings 251.00

[KiwiMurph]

@Tim Walden is in the Highlanders I think.

[Tim]

@KiwiMurph Cheers. Will edit.

[Tim]

Would've thought Joe Tupe would be an attractive option off the bench?

[Tim]

Centrebet Odds:

[Chris B.]

All the squads appear to have 38 players, so I'd guess WTG is largely a thing of the past.

[Tim]

Anyone know when the development squads are announced?

[Stargazer]

@Tim Definitely on a Thursday ...... but don't know which one.

[michaelmac]

Here's the breakdown by province based on 2016 allegiances

Canterbury (27)
Alex Hodgman (Blues); Dominic Bird, Tom Sanders (Chiefs); Scott Barrett, George Bridge, Jed Brown, Wyatt Crockett, Ryan Crotty, Mitchell Drummond, Mitchell Dunshea, Owen Franks, Ben Funnell, Jack Goodhue, Oliver Jager, Richie Mo'unga, Joe Moody, Kieran Read, Luke Romano, Codie Taylor, Matt Todd, Sam Whitelock (Crusaders); Daniel Lienert-Brown, Rob Thompson, Siate Tokolahi, Luke Whitelock (Highlanders); Jordie Barrett, Reed Prinsep (Hurricanes)

Auckland (20)
TJ Faiane, Charlie Faumaina, Blake Gibson, Akira Ioane, Rieko Ioane, Jerome Kaino, Steven Luatua, George Moala, Melani Nanai, Sam Prattley, Scott Scrafton, Patrick Tuipulotu, Ofa Tu'ungafasi (Blues); Taleni Seu (Chiefs); Leon Fukofuka (Crusaders); Malakai Fekitoa, Greg Pleasants-Tate (Highlanders); Vince Aso, Michael Fatialofa, Ben Lam (Hurricanes)

Taranaki (19)
Declan O'Donnell, Stephen Perofeta (Blues); Mitchell Brown, Lachlan Boshier, Johnny Fa'auli, Mitchell Graham, Charlie Ngatai (Chiefs); Manasa Mataele, Marty McKenzie, Seta Tamanivalu, Sean Wainui (Crusaders); Waisake Naholo (Highlanders); Beauden Barrett, James Broadhurst, Toa Halafihi, Mike Kainga, Kylem O'Donnell, Te Toiroa Tahuiorangi, Blade Thomson (Hurricanes)

Otago (14)
Michael Collins (Blues); Liam Coltman, Josh Dickson, Matt Faddes, Tom Franklin, James Lentjes, Craig Millar, Hayden Parker, Josh Renton, Aki Seiuli, Ben Smith, Fletcher Smith, Patelesio Tomkinson, Teihorangi Walden (Highlanders)

Ta$man (14)
Billy Guyton (Blues); Finlay Christie, Kane Hames, James Lowe (Chiefs); David Havili, Mitchell Hunt, Andrew Makalio, Tim Perry, Pete Samu, Quinten Strange (Crusaders); Alex Ainley, Shane Christie, Siosula Halanukonuka, Liam Squire (Highlanders)

Hawkes Bay (13)
Ihaia West (Blues); Michael Allardice, Sam McNicol, Brodie Retallick, Brad Weber (Chiefs); Israel Dagg (Crusaders); Ash Dixon, Gareth Evans (Highlanders); Mark Abbott, Geoffey Cridge, Ben May, Hugh Renton, Ricky Riccitelli (Hurricanes)

Wellington (13)
Leni Apisai, Dane Coles, Vaea Fifita, Reggie Goodes, Wes Goosen, Sam Lousi, TJ Perenara, Matt Proctor, Ardie Savea, Julian Savea, Brad Shields, Jeffery Toomaga-Allen, Peter Umaga-Jensen (Hurricanes)

Manawatu (12)
Aaron Cruden (Chiefs); Michael Alaalatoa, Heiden Bedwell-Curtis (Crusaders); Jackson Hemopo (Highlanders); Kayne Hammington, Jason Emery, Aaron Smith (Highlanders); Otere Black, Chris Eves, Callum Gibbins, Ngani Laumape, Nehe Milner-Skudder (Hurricanes)

Counties Manukau (11)
Piers Francis, Pauliasi Manu, Augustine Pulu, Jimmy Tupou, Sonny Bill Williams (Blues); Hikawera Elliot, Glen Fisiiahi, Nepo Laulala, Toni Pulu (Chiefs); Sione Fifita, Jordan Taufua (Crusaders)

North Harbour (11)
Gerard Cowley-Tuioti, Matt Duffie, Sione Mafileo, Brandon Nansen, James Parsons, Rene Ranger, Murphy Taramai, Matt Vaega (Blues); Bryn Hall (Crusaders); Tevita Li (Highlanders); Pita Ahki (Hurricanes)

Waikato (11)
Epalahame Faiva, Jordon Trainor (Blues); Stephen Donald, Sosefo Kautai, Tawera Kerr-Barlow, Anton Lienert-Brown, Damian McKenzie, Atunaisa Moli, Shaun Stevenson, James Tucker (Chiefs); Loni Uhila (Hurricanes)

Northland (7)
Josh Goodhue, Matt Moulds, Sam Nock, Kara Pryor (Blues); Solomon Alaimalo (Chiefs); Jone Macilai (Crusaders); Dan Pryor (Highlanders)

Bay of Plenty (6)
Sam Cane, Siegfried Fisi'ihoi, Nathan Harris, Mitchell Karpik, Liam Polwart, Chase Tiatia (Chiefs)

Southland (3)
Elliot Dixon, Guy Millar, Lima Sopoaga (Highlanders)

Not contracted (9)
Michael Leitch, Liam Messam, Tim Nanai-Williams (Chiefs); Tim Bateman, Digby Ioane (Crusaders); Richard Buckman, Patrick Osborne, Joe Wheeler (Highlanders); Cory Jane (Hurricanes)

[Tim]

Campbell Burnes' roundup on the squads:

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=11740342

[Tim]

Is Culum Retallick playing for the Rebels again?