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  • TimT Away
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    Tim
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    #847

    The Blues squad has 38 players, so it'd have to include the WTG players too.

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    • TimT Away
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      Tim
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      #848

      So, who missed out? Starting from last year's players:

      Hoani Matenga
      Jack Ram
      Matt McGahan
      Lolagi Visinia
      Tevita Kolomatangi
      Tim Boys
      Ross Geldenhuys
      Micheal Little
      Tony Lambourn
      Namatahi Waa


      Chris Vui
      Jonah Lowe
      Ereatara Enari
      Bryn Gatland
      Sam Vaka
      Cardiff Vaega
      Joe Tupe
      Matt Matich
      Gafatasi Su’a
      Chris Smylie

      NZ Maori:

      Jacob Skeen
      Joe Royal
      Leighton Price
      Marcel Renata
      Whetu Douglas

      In Australia:

      Jackson Garden-Bachop
      Cullum Retallick

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      • TimT Away
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        Tim
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        NZ TAB odds for next year.

        1 Hurricanes 4.50
        2 Chiefs 5.00
        3 Crusaders 5.50
        4 Highlanders 5.50
        5 Lions 7.50
        6 Brumbies 9.00
        7 Stormers 12.00
        8 Sharks 15.00
        9 Waratahs 18.00
        10 Blues 21.00
        11 Bulls 26.00
        12 Jaguares 51.00
        13 Reds 61.00
        14 Cheetahs 61.00
        15 Rebels 61.00
        16 Force 151.00
        17 Sunwolves 251.00
        18 Kings 251.00

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        • TimT Tim

          So, who missed out? Starting from last year's players:

          Hoani Matenga
          Jack Ram
          Matt McGahan
          Lolagi Visinia
          Tevita Kolomatangi
          Tim Boys
          Ross Geldenhuys
          Micheal Little
          Tony Lambourn
          Namatahi Waa


          Chris Vui
          Jonah Lowe
          Ereatara Enari
          Bryn Gatland
          Sam Vaka
          Cardiff Vaega
          Joe Tupe
          Matt Matich
          Gafatasi Su’a
          Chris Smylie

          NZ Maori:

          Jacob Skeen
          Joe Royal
          Leighton Price
          Marcel Renata
          Whetu Douglas

          In Australia:

          Jackson Garden-Bachop
          Cullum Retallick

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          KiwiMurph
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          #850

          @Tim Walden is in the Highlanders I think.

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          • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

            @Tim Walden is in the Highlanders I think.

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            Tim
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            #851

            @KiwiMurph Cheers. Will edit.

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            • TimT Away
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              Tim
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              #852

              Would've thought Joe Tupe would be an attractive option off the bench?

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              • TimT Away
                TimT Away
                Tim
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                #853

                Centrebet Odds:

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                • Chris B.C Offline
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                  Chris B.
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                  #854

                  All the squads appear to have 38 players, so I'd guess WTG is largely a thing of the past.

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                  • TimT Away
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                    Tim
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                    #855

                    Anyone know when the development squads are announced?

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                      Stargazer
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                      #856

                      @Tim Definitely on a Thursday ...... but don't know which one.

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                        michaelmac
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                        #857

                        Here's the breakdown by province based on 2016 allegiances

                        Canterbury (27)
                        Alex Hodgman (Blues); Dominic Bird, Tom Sanders (Chiefs); Scott Barrett, George Bridge, Jed Brown, Wyatt Crockett, Ryan Crotty, Mitchell Drummond, Mitchell Dunshea, Owen Franks, Ben Funnell, Jack Goodhue, Oliver Jager, Richie Mo'unga, Joe Moody, Kieran Read, Luke Romano, Codie Taylor, Matt Todd, Sam Whitelock (Crusaders); Daniel Lienert-Brown, Rob Thompson, Siate Tokolahi, Luke Whitelock (Highlanders); Jordie Barrett, Reed Prinsep (Hurricanes)

                        Auckland (20)
                        TJ Faiane, Charlie Faumaina, Blake Gibson, Akira Ioane, Rieko Ioane, Jerome Kaino, Steven Luatua, George Moala, Melani Nanai, Sam Prattley, Scott Scrafton, Patrick Tuipulotu, Ofa Tu'ungafasi (Blues); Taleni Seu (Chiefs); Leon Fukofuka (Crusaders); Malakai Fekitoa, Greg Pleasants-Tate (Highlanders); Vince Aso, Michael Fatialofa, Ben Lam (Hurricanes)

                        Taranaki (19)
                        Declan O'Donnell, Stephen Perofeta (Blues); Mitchell Brown, Lachlan Boshier, Johnny Fa'auli, Mitchell Graham, Charlie Ngatai (Chiefs); Manasa Mataele, Marty McKenzie, Seta Tamanivalu, Sean Wainui (Crusaders); Waisake Naholo (Highlanders); Beauden Barrett, James Broadhurst, Toa Halafihi, Mike Kainga, Kylem O'Donnell, Te Toiroa Tahuiorangi, Blade Thomson (Hurricanes)

                        Otago (14)
                        Michael Collins (Blues); Liam Coltman, Josh Dickson, Matt Faddes, Tom Franklin, James Lentjes, Craig Millar, Hayden Parker, Josh Renton, Aki Seiuli, Ben Smith, Fletcher Smith, Patelesio Tomkinson, Teihorangi Walden (Highlanders)

                        Ta$man (14)
                        Billy Guyton (Blues); Finlay Christie, Kane Hames, James Lowe (Chiefs); David Havili, Mitchell Hunt, Andrew Makalio, Tim Perry, Pete Samu, Quinten Strange (Crusaders); Alex Ainley, Shane Christie, Siosula Halanukonuka, Liam Squire (Highlanders)

                        Hawkes Bay (13)
                        Ihaia West (Blues); Michael Allardice, Sam McNicol, Brodie Retallick, Brad Weber (Chiefs); Israel Dagg (Crusaders); Ash Dixon, Gareth Evans (Highlanders); Mark Abbott, Geoffey Cridge, Ben May, Hugh Renton, Ricky Riccitelli (Hurricanes)

                        Wellington (13)
                        Leni Apisai, Dane Coles, Vaea Fifita, Reggie Goodes, Wes Goosen, Sam Lousi, TJ Perenara, Matt Proctor, Ardie Savea, Julian Savea, Brad Shields, Jeffery Toomaga-Allen, Peter Umaga-Jensen (Hurricanes)

                        Manawatu (12)
                        Aaron Cruden (Chiefs); Michael Alaalatoa, Heiden Bedwell-Curtis (Crusaders); Jackson Hemopo (Highlanders); Kayne Hammington, Jason Emery, Aaron Smith (Highlanders); Otere Black, Chris Eves, Callum Gibbins, Ngani Laumape, Nehe Milner-Skudder (Hurricanes)

                        Counties Manukau (11)
                        Piers Francis, Pauliasi Manu, Augustine Pulu, Jimmy Tupou, Sonny Bill Williams (Blues); Hikawera Elliot, Glen Fisiiahi, Nepo Laulala, Toni Pulu (Chiefs); Sione Fifita, Jordan Taufua (Crusaders)

                        North Harbour (11)
                        Gerard Cowley-Tuioti, Matt Duffie, Sione Mafileo, Brandon Nansen, James Parsons, Rene Ranger, Murphy Taramai, Matt Vaega (Blues); Bryn Hall (Crusaders); Tevita Li (Highlanders); Pita Ahki (Hurricanes)

                        Waikato (11)
                        Epalahame Faiva, Jordon Trainor (Blues); Stephen Donald, Sosefo Kautai, Tawera Kerr-Barlow, Anton Lienert-Brown, Damian McKenzie, Atunaisa Moli, Shaun Stevenson, James Tucker (Chiefs); Loni Uhila (Hurricanes)

                        Northland (7)
                        Josh Goodhue, Matt Moulds, Sam Nock, Kara Pryor (Blues); Solomon Alaimalo (Chiefs); Jone Macilai (Crusaders); Dan Pryor (Highlanders)

                        Bay of Plenty (6)
                        Sam Cane, Siegfried Fisi'ihoi, Nathan Harris, Mitchell Karpik, Liam Polwart, Chase Tiatia (Chiefs)

                        Southland (3)
                        Elliot Dixon, Guy Millar, Lima Sopoaga (Highlanders)

                        Not contracted (9)
                        Michael Leitch, Liam Messam, Tim Nanai-Williams (Chiefs); Tim Bateman, Digby Ioane (Crusaders); Richard Buckman, Patrick Osborne, Joe Wheeler (Highlanders); Cory Jane (Hurricanes)

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                        • TimT Away
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                          Tim
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                          #858

                          Campbell Burnes' roundup on the squads:

                          http://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=11740342

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                          • TimT Away
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                            Tim
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                            #859

                            Is Culum Retallick playing for the Rebels again?

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                              mariner4life
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                              #860

                              The Lions tour should provide an interesting dynamic in Super rugby again next year. Probably not a great thing to have too many established All Blacks, as their focus will be on peaking in June. But on the flip side, a very good year to have fringe All Blacks, as they will be playing the house down to get in that June squad.

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                              • TimT Tim

                                Is Culum Retallick playing for the Rebels again?

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                                Stargazer
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                                #861

                                @Tim Haven't read anything about him staying at or leaving the Rebels. How many foreign players can Aussie teams sign? The Rebels already have signed two, a Japanese international and a Welshman.

                                Edit: according to this article from July 2015, he signed for two years, so that would mean he still has another year on his contract.

                                http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/70431944/Lock-Culum-Retallick-leaves-New-Zealand-rugby-for-Melbourne-Rebels

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                                  Crucial
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                                  #862

                                  Where is the customary '6th Super Rugby team' made up of those left out or signed overseas because they weren't wanted?

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                                  • TimT Away
                                    TimT Away
                                    Tim
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                                    #863

                                    Given that the Lions don't play any NZ teams, $7.50 seems like pretty good value.

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                                      @Tim Haven't read anything about him staying at or leaving the Rebels. How many foreign players can Aussie teams sign? The Rebels already have signed two, a Japanese international and a Welshman.

                                      Edit: according to this article from July 2015, he signed for two years, so that would mean he still has another year on his contract.

                                      http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/70431944/Lock-Culum-Retallick-leaves-New-Zealand-rugby-for-Melbourne-Rebels

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                                      Cpt Kumera
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                                      #864

                                      @Stargazer yes hes back at rebels for another season

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                                        Stargazer
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                                        #865

                                        Jackson Garden-Bachop, who missed out on a NZ Super Rugby contract, has been signed by the Rebels on a 2 year deal.

                                        The media release below, includes the FULL Rebels squad:

                                        http://melbournerebels.com/2016/11/04/rebels-finalise-squad-with-all-black-pedigree-garden-bachop/

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                                        • StargazerS Stargazer

                                          Jackson Garden-Bachop, who missed out on a NZ Super Rugby contract, has been signed by the Rebels on a 2 year deal.

                                          The media release below, includes the FULL Rebels squad:

                                          http://melbournerebels.com/2016/11/04/rebels-finalise-squad-with-all-black-pedigree-garden-bachop/

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                                          Crash
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                                          @Stargazer
                                          Jeez you would have thought Jackson Garden-Bachop would be a handy addition to any NZ franchise - the Chiefs for example have Cruden and ...Donald? Much as I respect Donald for all his experience, commitment and service to NZ rugby I think the Chiefs squad could really benefit (as would JGB) from a young play maker of his calibre. Even the Blues are still hamstrung by West - while he is serviceable at SR level, he is no more than that. Both squads should give themselves an uppercut, as he has great potential. And now we are stuck with seeing him profit from across the ditch - lets hope he doesn't wreak too much havoc on Kiwi teams.

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