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  • StargazerS Offline
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    Stargazer
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    Damn, the Canes better not disappoint!

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      #842

      So we have all teams in this thread:

      CRUSADERS SQUAD

      PROPS
      Michael Alaalatoa
      Wyatt Crockett
      Oliver Jager
      Joe Moody
      Tim Perry
      Owen Franks

      HOOKERS
      Ben Funnell
      Andrew Makalio
      Codie Taylor

      LOCKS
      Scott Barrett
      Luke Romano
      Quinten Strange
      Sam Whitelock
      LOOSE FORWARDS
      Heiden Bedwell-Curtis
      Jed Brown
      Mitchell Dunshea
      Kieran Read
      Pete Samu
      Jordan Taufua
      Matt Todd

      HALFBACKS
      Mitchell Drummond
      Leon Fukofuka
      Bryn Hall

      FIRST FIVE-EIGHTHS
      Tim Bateman
      Marty McKenzie
      Richie Mo'unga

      MIDFIELD BACKS
      Ryan Crotty
      Jack Goodhue
      David Havili
      Seta Tamanivalu
      Sean Wainui

      OUTSIDE BACKS
      George Bridge
      Israel Dagg
      Sione Fifita
      Mitchell Hunt
      Digby Ioane
      Jone Macilai
      Manasa Mataele

      http://crusaders.co.nz/news/1026-2017-heralds-new-era-for-bnz-crusaders

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      • Daffy JaffyD Offline
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        Daffy Jaffy
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        The 2017 Hurricanes Investec Super Rugby squad is:

        FORWARDS (22): Props (6): Chris Eves (Manawatu), Reggie Goodes (Wellington), Ben May (Hawke's Bay), Jeffery Toomaga-Allen (Wellington), Loni Uhila (Waikato), Mike Kainga (Taranaki). Hookers (3): Dane Coles (Wellington) (c), Leni Apisai (Wellington), Ricky Riccitelli (Hawke's Bay). Locks (5): Mark Abbott (Hawke's Bay), James Broadhurst (Taranaki), Geoffrey Cridge (Hawke's Bay), Michael Fatialofa, (Auckland), Sam Lousi (Wellington) *. Loose forwards: (8) Callum Gibbins (Manawatu), Vaea Fifita (Wellington), Reed Prinsep (Canterbury) *, Hugh Renton (Hawke's Bay), Ardie Savea (Wellington), Brad Shields (Wellington), Blade Thomson (Taranaki), Toa Halafihi (Taranaki) **. BACKS (16): Halfbacks (3): TJ Perenara (Wellington), Te Toiroa Tahuiorangi (Taranaki), Kylem O'Donnell (Taranaki) *. First five-eighth: (2) Beauden Barrett (Taranaki), Otere Black (Manawatu). Midfield: (4) Vince Aso (Auckland), Ngani Laumape (Manawatu), Matt Proctor (Wellington), Pita Ahki (North Harbour), Wes Goosen (Wellington). Outside backs (6): Cory Jane (Wellington), Julian Savea (Wellington), Ben Lam (Wellington) *, Nehe Milner-Skudder (Manawatu), Peter Umaga-Jensen (Wellington) **. Utility back: (1) Jordie Barrett ** (Canterbury).

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        • StargazerS Offline
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          So now the big question is: are all these players on full contracts? In other words, have they omitted WTG players? Is there still a possibility that players, who missed out (Jonah Lowe, for example), will get a chance somewhere?

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            KiwiMurph
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            Im pretty certain the above squads include Wider Training Group players.

            Of course players get brought in from outside of these squads during the season due to injury.

            Broadhurst named in the Canes - interesting - hopefully his concussion woes are behind him.

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            • StargazerS Stargazer

              So now the big question is: are all these players on full contracts? In other words, have they omitted WTG players? Is there still a possibility that players, who missed out (Jonah Lowe, for example), will get a chance somewhere?

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              Whites72
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              @Stargazer Jonah Lowe,visinia,waa and little are the biggest shocks in my opinion not to make any squads plus Caleb makene

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              • TimT Away
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                Tim
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                #847

                The Blues squad has 38 players, so it'd have to include the WTG players too.

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                • TimT Away
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                  Tim
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                  #848

                  So, who missed out? Starting from last year's players:

                  Hoani Matenga
                  Jack Ram
                  Matt McGahan
                  Lolagi Visinia
                  Tevita Kolomatangi
                  Tim Boys
                  Ross Geldenhuys
                  Micheal Little
                  Tony Lambourn
                  Namatahi Waa


                  Chris Vui
                  Jonah Lowe
                  Ereatara Enari
                  Bryn Gatland
                  Sam Vaka
                  Cardiff Vaega
                  Joe Tupe
                  Matt Matich
                  Gafatasi Su’a
                  Chris Smylie

                  NZ Maori:

                  Jacob Skeen
                  Joe Royal
                  Leighton Price
                  Marcel Renata
                  Whetu Douglas

                  In Australia:

                  Jackson Garden-Bachop
                  Cullum Retallick

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                  • TimT Away
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                    Tim
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                    #849

                    NZ TAB odds for next year.

                    1 Hurricanes 4.50
                    2 Chiefs 5.00
                    3 Crusaders 5.50
                    4 Highlanders 5.50
                    5 Lions 7.50
                    6 Brumbies 9.00
                    7 Stormers 12.00
                    8 Sharks 15.00
                    9 Waratahs 18.00
                    10 Blues 21.00
                    11 Bulls 26.00
                    12 Jaguares 51.00
                    13 Reds 61.00
                    14 Cheetahs 61.00
                    15 Rebels 61.00
                    16 Force 151.00
                    17 Sunwolves 251.00
                    18 Kings 251.00

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                    • TimT Tim

                      So, who missed out? Starting from last year's players:

                      Hoani Matenga
                      Jack Ram
                      Matt McGahan
                      Lolagi Visinia
                      Tevita Kolomatangi
                      Tim Boys
                      Ross Geldenhuys
                      Micheal Little
                      Tony Lambourn
                      Namatahi Waa


                      Chris Vui
                      Jonah Lowe
                      Ereatara Enari
                      Bryn Gatland
                      Sam Vaka
                      Cardiff Vaega
                      Joe Tupe
                      Matt Matich
                      Gafatasi Su’a
                      Chris Smylie

                      NZ Maori:

                      Jacob Skeen
                      Joe Royal
                      Leighton Price
                      Marcel Renata
                      Whetu Douglas

                      In Australia:

                      Jackson Garden-Bachop
                      Cullum Retallick

                      KiwiMurphK Online
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                      #850

                      @Tim Walden is in the Highlanders I think.

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                      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                        @Tim Walden is in the Highlanders I think.

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                        Tim
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                        #851

                        @KiwiMurph Cheers. Will edit.

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                          Tim
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                          Would've thought Joe Tupe would be an attractive option off the bench?

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                            Tim
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                            #853

                            Centrebet Odds:

                            Imgur

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                            • Chris B.C Offline
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                              Chris B.
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                              #854

                              All the squads appear to have 38 players, so I'd guess WTG is largely a thing of the past.

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                                Tim
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                                Anyone know when the development squads are announced?

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                                • StargazerS Offline
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                                  Stargazer
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                                  @Tim Definitely on a Thursday ...... but don't know which one.

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                                    Here's the breakdown by province based on 2016 allegiances

                                    Canterbury (27)
                                    Alex Hodgman (Blues); Dominic Bird, Tom Sanders (Chiefs); Scott Barrett, George Bridge, Jed Brown, Wyatt Crockett, Ryan Crotty, Mitchell Drummond, Mitchell Dunshea, Owen Franks, Ben Funnell, Jack Goodhue, Oliver Jager, Richie Mo'unga, Joe Moody, Kieran Read, Luke Romano, Codie Taylor, Matt Todd, Sam Whitelock (Crusaders); Daniel Lienert-Brown, Rob Thompson, Siate Tokolahi, Luke Whitelock (Highlanders); Jordie Barrett, Reed Prinsep (Hurricanes)

                                    Auckland (20)
                                    TJ Faiane, Charlie Faumaina, Blake Gibson, Akira Ioane, Rieko Ioane, Jerome Kaino, Steven Luatua, George Moala, Melani Nanai, Sam Prattley, Scott Scrafton, Patrick Tuipulotu, Ofa Tu'ungafasi (Blues); Taleni Seu (Chiefs); Leon Fukofuka (Crusaders); Malakai Fekitoa, Greg Pleasants-Tate (Highlanders); Vince Aso, Michael Fatialofa, Ben Lam (Hurricanes)

                                    Taranaki (19)
                                    Declan O'Donnell, Stephen Perofeta (Blues); Mitchell Brown, Lachlan Boshier, Johnny Fa'auli, Mitchell Graham, Charlie Ngatai (Chiefs); Manasa Mataele, Marty McKenzie, Seta Tamanivalu, Sean Wainui (Crusaders); Waisake Naholo (Highlanders); Beauden Barrett, James Broadhurst, Toa Halafihi, Mike Kainga, Kylem O'Donnell, Te Toiroa Tahuiorangi, Blade Thomson (Hurricanes)

                                    Otago (14)
                                    Michael Collins (Blues); Liam Coltman, Josh Dickson, Matt Faddes, Tom Franklin, James Lentjes, Craig Millar, Hayden Parker, Josh Renton, Aki Seiuli, Ben Smith, Fletcher Smith, Patelesio Tomkinson, Teihorangi Walden (Highlanders)

                                    Ta$man (14)
                                    Billy Guyton (Blues); Finlay Christie, Kane Hames, James Lowe (Chiefs); David Havili, Mitchell Hunt, Andrew Makalio, Tim Perry, Pete Samu, Quinten Strange (Crusaders); Alex Ainley, Shane Christie, Siosula Halanukonuka, Liam Squire (Highlanders)

                                    Hawkes Bay (13)
                                    Ihaia West (Blues); Michael Allardice, Sam McNicol, Brodie Retallick, Brad Weber (Chiefs); Israel Dagg (Crusaders); Ash Dixon, Gareth Evans (Highlanders); Mark Abbott, Geoffey Cridge, Ben May, Hugh Renton, Ricky Riccitelli (Hurricanes)

                                    Wellington (13)
                                    Leni Apisai, Dane Coles, Vaea Fifita, Reggie Goodes, Wes Goosen, Sam Lousi, TJ Perenara, Matt Proctor, Ardie Savea, Julian Savea, Brad Shields, Jeffery Toomaga-Allen, Peter Umaga-Jensen (Hurricanes)

                                    Manawatu (12)
                                    Aaron Cruden (Chiefs); Michael Alaalatoa, Heiden Bedwell-Curtis (Crusaders); Jackson Hemopo (Highlanders); Kayne Hammington, Jason Emery, Aaron Smith (Highlanders); Otere Black, Chris Eves, Callum Gibbins, Ngani Laumape, Nehe Milner-Skudder (Hurricanes)

                                    Counties Manukau (11)
                                    Piers Francis, Pauliasi Manu, Augustine Pulu, Jimmy Tupou, Sonny Bill Williams (Blues); Hikawera Elliot, Glen Fisiiahi, Nepo Laulala, Toni Pulu (Chiefs); Sione Fifita, Jordan Taufua (Crusaders)

                                    North Harbour (11)
                                    Gerard Cowley-Tuioti, Matt Duffie, Sione Mafileo, Brandon Nansen, James Parsons, Rene Ranger, Murphy Taramai, Matt Vaega (Blues); Bryn Hall (Crusaders); Tevita Li (Highlanders); Pita Ahki (Hurricanes)

                                    Waikato (11)
                                    Epalahame Faiva, Jordon Trainor (Blues); Stephen Donald, Sosefo Kautai, Tawera Kerr-Barlow, Anton Lienert-Brown, Damian McKenzie, Atunaisa Moli, Shaun Stevenson, James Tucker (Chiefs); Loni Uhila (Hurricanes)

                                    Northland (7)
                                    Josh Goodhue, Matt Moulds, Sam Nock, Kara Pryor (Blues); Solomon Alaimalo (Chiefs); Jone Macilai (Crusaders); Dan Pryor (Highlanders)

                                    Bay of Plenty (6)
                                    Sam Cane, Siegfried Fisi'ihoi, Nathan Harris, Mitchell Karpik, Liam Polwart, Chase Tiatia (Chiefs)

                                    Southland (3)
                                    Elliot Dixon, Guy Millar, Lima Sopoaga (Highlanders)

                                    Not contracted (9)
                                    Michael Leitch, Liam Messam, Tim Nanai-Williams (Chiefs); Tim Bateman, Digby Ioane (Crusaders); Richard Buckman, Patrick Osborne, Joe Wheeler (Highlanders); Cory Jane (Hurricanes)

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                                      Tim
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                                      #858

                                      Campbell Burnes' roundup on the squads:

                                      http://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=11740342

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                                        Tim
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                                        Is Culum Retallick playing for the Rebels again?

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                                          The Lions tour should provide an interesting dynamic in Super rugby again next year. Probably not a great thing to have too many established All Blacks, as their focus will be on peaking in June. But on the flip side, a very good year to have fringe All Blacks, as they will be playing the house down to get in that June squad.

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