All Blacks 2026
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2026:
@jimmyb something to consider - I can't see Brown wanting to coach against JJ...
Brown coming over is literally the only possible silver lining for this (and the possibility of Savea never playing for the ABs again). The current situation is terrible and the alternatives are worse
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If the rumours are true and they need a new coach, he'd have to be available, have significant Test experience, able to work under pressure and be able to gel players and coaching staff together.
Who best fits that criteria?
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2026:
If the rumours are true and they need a new coach, he'd have to be available, have significant Test experience, able to work under pressure and be able to gel players and coaching staff together.
Who best fits that criteria?
Left of field but I don’t think the likes of Rennie, Schmidt, Crotter are up to it. All three of have good squads (Rennie was buggered by injuries I’ll admit) and under performed. Schmidts one dimensional game plan shat the the bed when it mattered, Crotter didn’t make the best out of what was a good squad and the best Scottish squad they’d had at the time, and Rennie wasn’t amazing with the Wallabies.
There is one bloke out there who’s been to a World Cup semi final, consistently beaten top tier teams, and has dominated the domestic scene every time he’s touched it and that’s Robbie Deans
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2026:
If the rumours are true and they need a new coach, he'd have to be available, have significant Test experience, able to work under pressure and be able to gel players and coaching staff together.
Who best fits that criteria?
Gatland
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@xman said in All Blacks 2026:
Razor, Hansen, Savea all have to go. Give Jamie Joseph a clean slate without the baggage of these 3. Savea is turning into a brand like SBW giving ultimatums. Too much Savea worshipping by the fans and media has gone into his head. Razor has brought into his own hype too. While these guys are internally fighting, the All Blacks brand is getting tarnished. Player power should be nipped in the bud. Very dangerous times for All Blacks rugby. This is not a time to celebrate, it’s sad. Sad to see the All Blacks in this situation.
The crest on the front is bigger than any name on the back.
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@Jet said in All Blacks 2026:
@xman said in All Blacks 2026:
Razor, Hansen, Savea all have to go. Give Jamie Joseph a clean slate without the baggage of these 3. Savea is turning into a brand like SBW giving ultimatums. Too much Savea worshipping by the fans and media has gone into his head. Razor has brought into his own hype too. While these guys are internally fighting, the All Blacks brand is getting tarnished. Player power should be nipped in the bud. Very dangerous times for All Blacks rugby. This is not a time to celebrate, it’s sad. Sad to see the All Blacks in this situation.
The crest on the front is bigger than any name on the back.
Until JRK makes the team.
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@canefan said in All Blacks 2026:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2026:
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@xman said in All Blacks 2026:
If Robertson is sacked, the pressure on the next coach will be enormous to get better results. If the next coach loses the South Africa tour, loses the Bledisloe, loses the Eden Park streak, then what does NZR do? Don’t just assume Jamie Joseph will be the saviour of the All Blacks. Coaching Japan where you’re not expected to win, versus coaching the All Blacks where you’re expected to win every game is different level of pressure.
It will bring massive pressure in a very tough year ahead for a new coach.
Then again, if he's takes over a complete shit-show and we start to see signs of improvement, we'll all be happier.
I am of the opinion the RWC is basically gone for us. We need to rebuild our entire team from the ground up. Only then will we have a chance to be great again
Im a pessimist at heart but disagree in a way.
Cheika got the Wallabies to the final in 2015, Fozzie got us to the final in 2023 for example.
Neither were vintage teams.
Similarly, we just need to unearth one or 2 players ala Milner Skudder in 2015 who peak the year of the comp and come in with a hot hand.
The score board moves in 3's in RWC's. We need set piece parity, a kicker and the rub of the green from the TMO's.
To me the 4 year cycle is gone for us, in the sense that we are a much easier scalp for the bigger teams week to week, than we used to be, but come knockout footie, id hate to be a bookie laying us.
The RWC is 3 knockout games. Losing a pool game could even be beneficial.
We are more likely to be found out in the Nations League thing where you play everyone..the league table doesn't lie.
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@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2026:
@Yeetyaah said in All Blacks 2026:
So might be off topic but where does Razor go if he's sacked? Japan? Another international team?
Imagine how Hoss will feel if Razor and Ryan go coach England.
Imagine if they are his new coaches at Newcastle Red Bull.
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2026:
@Jet said in All Blacks 2026:
The RWC is 3 knockout games. Losing a pool game could even be beneficial.
4 knockout games now
Good point well made.
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@Jet said in All Blacks 2026:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2026:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2026:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2026:
@xman said in All Blacks 2026:
If Robertson is sacked, the pressure on the next coach will be enormous to get better results. If the next coach loses the South Africa tour, loses the Bledisloe, loses the Eden Park streak, then what does NZR do? Don’t just assume Jamie Joseph will be the saviour of the All Blacks. Coaching Japan where you’re not expected to win, versus coaching the All Blacks where you’re expected to win every game is different level of pressure.
It will bring massive pressure in a very tough year ahead for a new coach.
Then again, if he's takes over a complete shit-show and we start to see signs of improvement, we'll all be happier.
I am of the opinion the RWC is basically gone for us. We need to rebuild our entire team from the ground up. Only then will we have a chance to be great again
Im a pessimist at heart but disagree in a way.
Cheika got the Wallabies to the final in 2015, Fozzie got us to the final in 2023 for example.
Neither were vintage teams.
Similarly, we just need to unearth one or 2 players ala Milner Skudder in 2015 who peak the year of the comp and come in with a hot hand.
The score board moves in 3's in RWC's. We need set piece parity, a kicker and the rub of the green from the TMO's.
To me the 4 year cycle is gone for us, in the sense that we are a much easier scalp for the bigger teams week to week, than we used to be, but come knockout footie, id hate to be a bookie laying us.
The RWC is 3 knockout games. Losing a pool game could even be beneficial.
We are more likely to be found out in the Nations League thing where you play everyone..the league table doesn't lie.
This side as it was in 2025 has literally no chance of winning 3 high pressure games in a row.
And the longer the season went on the worse we got.
Then you add another nightmare world cup and we have a 4% chance if that.
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Apparently we are meant to feel sorry for "Razor" because some of the players 'have revolted against him.'
That's bollocks.
The players were invited to take part in an anonymous review and someone has been leaking those comments.
And there's a reason why some of the players have been unhappy with Robertson's performance as All Blacks coach. He's been shit.
Maybe we could overlook his poor man-management and his awkward press conference if the results and performances have been good.
But they haven't been good. They've been bloody awful. And we've seen a sight I never thought I'd see an All Blacks team give up.
I really hope that David Kirk has said to Scott Robertson (and his Mini Me) those words, made famous by Donald Trump, you're fired!
