All Blacks 2026
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@MN5 said in All Blacks 2026:
I certainly get he wasn't exactly popular but that seems to pale in comparison to what I've heard on this thread about Razor.
It's close, but I think Mitchell is the winner.
Only cos I think Razor didn't really know what the fuck he was doin.
Mitchell and his assistants knew they were bein dicks, and didn't care.
But the ex-AB coach tag would have been enough to allow him to stay in the game and have some learnings in the last 20 years.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2026:
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@Cyclops said in All Blacks 2026:
It still feels like a massive longshot that he ever gets the gig again though.
Won't happen. His supposed strengths are the very reason he got booted. This wasn't a case of not having unfamiliar skills - it's a complete grotesque failure of the very thing he was supposed to be best at.
It really puts into perspective the success the Crusaders setup has had .
Know it's unfair, but I have this nagging feeling NZR were conned.
I can see that argument, but what explains his success at the Crusaders?
Surely the guys that played under him there - Whitelock, S Barrett, Taylor in particular - would not have stood for him if he was a genuine conman?
Not sticking up for Razor here - the guy is clearly an intellectual midget with an over-inflated ego and looking at his AB stint in isolation, it's clear there's a bit of the chancer about him - but I just don't see how a genuine conman gets away with it for 7 years.
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@mohikamo said in All Blacks 2026:
If using speed and skill was the basic strategy, I actually agree with that.
That would be fine if we had enough speed and skill - but we don't.
In fact, our biggest area of strength is the fat, slow blokes.
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@junior The Saders success indicates that Razor could achieve outstanding results when he had a monoculture to manage.
In fact, I have no doubt he was able to bring the players to the boil to the point where they felt they could run through brick walls.
I think he achieved that in first half of Ellis Park last year.
But it seems clear that the ABs have fractured into cliques and Razor was unable to unify them as ABs first and foremost.
And when the going got tough those splits came to the surface, most notably in Wellington.
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@junior said in All Blacks 2026:
That would be fine if we had enough speed and skill - but we don't.
Not right now.
But generally I think NZ will always have an edge in that area.
And it should be the first strategy.
Never guna beat England/France/Saffers consistently with just a power type game.Only Fiji can edge us in the speed and skill dept.
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@mohikamo said in All Blacks 2026:
Never guna beat England/France/Saffers consistently with just a power type game.
I'm not so sure. Ryan has developed a strong tight 5 who often dominated the above. The problem was doing it consistently.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2026:
Ryan has developed a strong tight 5 who often dominated the above.
Yeah the best feature of the current outfit.
This is the easier part of the game to perfect tho; practice making perfect.If we could get some sort of speed and skill game going we'd become very difficult to roll.
But this is more difficult because it is more instinctive.I think Razor was maybe trying to achieve this (never really sure WTF he was trying to do); but failed miserably.
As for being conned; NZR bought it!
And now they've chucked it in the trash.
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Has Ralph ever coached?
Hammer has a track record of coming in and sorting out cultural issues, I am not saying he is the long term solution but he is a great short term band aid.
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If you want to take the piss with the Hammett references, you need the right image, such as:
Alongside something like 'Hammer time!'
However, if you seriously think a guy who has been coaching first XV rugby since 2021 is the right guy to take over the ABs, then well, I don't think you wanting him as the AB coach is your biggest problem.
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2026:
@lak said in All Blacks 2026:
Hammer has a track record of coming in and sorting out cultural issues
If you're actually being serious, it'd be good to know what you're referring to and whether you mean successfully or disastrously.
Ignore the troll.
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@African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2026:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2026:
@lak said in All Blacks 2026:
Hammer has a track record of coming in and sorting out cultural issues
If you're actually being serious, it'd be good to know what you're referring to and whether you mean successfully or disastrously.
Ignore the troll.
I'm not that much of a troll.
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2026:
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2026:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2026:
@lak said in All Blacks 2026:
Hammer has a track record of coming in and sorting out cultural issues
If you're actually being serious, it'd be good to know what you're referring to and whether you mean successfully or disastrously.
Ignore the troll.
I'm not that much of a troll.
You shouldn't sell yourself down like that.
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@junior To me in some respects Razor dominated at the crusaders for the same reason he failed at the all blacks.
Let’s assume there is a touch of the tism about Razor. He came from crusaders culture, knew it well, and could hyper fixate on an environment that was comfortable to him in a way that allowed him to innovate and get the best out of the systems he had known his whole career.
He then shifted into a new environment which autistic people famously do poorly in. In his mind, he could transform the all blacks into the crusaders. Instead he found himself an environment very very different from the one he was comfortable in. But without the time, space or grace to adapt like he’d get at NPC or Super.
That all black environment was also very different from the one he knew as a player (he left post 2004 changes). And there’s a marked difference between playing & coaching.
Suddenly you have an autistic guy who can’t adapt fast enough, in an overwhelmingly new environment that’s deeply resistant to the only plan he has to feel comfortable. So he shuts down the ‘interpersonal side of things’ so he can hyper focus on adapting fast enough - and in doing so ruins the best thing he has going for him. His ability to build culture. And things spiral from there.
