All Blacks 2026
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2026:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2026:
@tubbyj so don't hurt cantabs feelings, but fuck Foster and Savea? Fair enough.
How about Dalton's feelings when Razor fucked him over?
Human decency does not apply to Auckland, don't be ridiculous.
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2026:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2026:
@tubbyj so don't hurt cantabs feelings, but fuck Foster and Savea? Fair enough.
How about Dalton's feelings when Razor fucked him over?
Exactly, especially for someone known for his man management skills.
Quite funny going for a run in Perth this morning and seeing multiple Crusaders jerseys being worn. Couldn't help but laugh.
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@tubbyj said in All Blacks 2026:
@Donsteppa said in All Blacks 2026:
@W32 said in All Blacks 2026:
Apologies if this has been asked, but if the ABs were rated #1 in the world instead of #2, does the fern think he still would have been canned? Has this happened because a NZ coach (TB) is assisting Nzeds biggest rival and Kirk et al are thinking this is a genius move? Word is that it wasn't a player revolt so one has to think it’s because the ABs are not number one.
Or is this shake up because NZ rugby as a whole is in a shambles and Razor has effectively been the scapegoat?I think it's less about NZ Rugby as a whole, and more that the All Blacks themselves were a complete shambles by their long term standards.
I've commented probably a few times now - Razor should have been sacked after the night of the Wellington loss to the Springboks.
Not because they lost, but because All Black sides simply do not give up with 20 minutes to go in a game of rugby.
The win percentage sometimes commented on (elsewhere) is a red herring. The All Blacks could be selected, enter a game week with no coaches, and ordinarily should still win a moderate-ish percentage, given some of their schedules.
You don't think that should mean alot of the players who gave up should be sacked also? Robertson wasn't on the field alot of the senior players stabbing him in the back were the gary give ups.
It was a response to reasons specific to Robertson's sacking. Like I said in the follow up post, it wasn't either/or after Wellington. It should have been both.
(Which the coach/selectors then didn't do their part of...)
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@Godder said in All Blacks 2026:
@junior said in All Blacks 2026:
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2026:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2026:
I've never warmed to Robertson's personality and always found it cringe-worthy when listening to him speak. Obviously there are reasons for that, some known, others perhaps not, but I wasn't surprised when reading what a sports journalist had to say about his press conferences:
"You can't really make sense of what he is saying. If that's what he is like to the media, what is he like behind closed doors?"
Agreed - a point I've made before. Add to Razor's incoherent ramblings the manglement of Scott Hansen and it's no wonder our teams looked utterly confused in the second half.
The comments about his communication style - which I also found incomprehensible - keeps bringing me back to the big head scratcher of how this worked at the Crusaders?
I can see how and agree that it was a failure in the AB environment - but is the Crusaders environment that different?
I am honestly really confused how things could have gone so well at the Crusaders and that none of the issues identified in the review - especially around communication - manifested themselves over the course of 7 years in that environment.
Winning does a lot to smooth over issues - could be that his communication with some players was always a bit shaky but his teams won everything so everyone just accepted it.
Which suggests that the Crusaders’ winning record had more to do with things other than him.
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@tubbyj said in All Blacks 2026:
Love this thread. Not only are Jamie Joseph and Tony Brown going to come in and turn us into world beaters in record time but the snowflake senior players are all going to love Jamie Joseph's style of 'old school' coaching that from what I hear involves swearing and abusing players.
Also not only do the posters on here know more about international coaching than Scott Robertson but also Wayne Smith now.
The overexcitement around Joseph and Brown is nowhere near what surrounded Robertson before he took over.
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@ShaquilleOatmeal said in All Blacks 2026:
@tubbyj said in All Blacks 2026:
Love this thread. Not only are Jamie Joseph and Tony Brown going to come in and turn us into world beaters in record time but the snowflake senior players are all going to love Jamie Joseph's style of 'old school' coaching that from what I hear involves swearing and abusing players.
Also not only do the posters on here know more about international coaching than Scott Robertson but also Wayne Smith now.
The overexcitement around Joseph and Brown is nowhere near what surrounded Robertson before he took over.
I wouldn't say there is over excitement. Hope and optimism? Definitely. The JJ Brown Cotter/Rennie Schmidt multi headed monster is exciting but a pipe dream IMHO
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I've been waiting 10 years for the AB turnaround.
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Makes you wonder if Razor still had Whitelock in his squad (let's saynhe is still good enough) is he the difference maker for Razor, is he the glue that holds Razors team together and brings the newbies in and up?
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@nzzp said in All Blacks 2026:
@tubbyj said in All Blacks 2026:
senior players stabbing him in the back
you mean, answering questions in a review about whether the environment and coaching could be improved?
That's some funny definition you got there pal
Human decency suggests you should lie, isn't it obvious?
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Ted was the man who turned the All Blacks around from a bit of shambles to World Cup Winners. Ted has said that he thinks Dave Rennie would be a great All Blacks coach.
So with all due respect to other candidates, I hope Dave Rennie is the next man to lead the All Blacks.
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@sparky said in All Blacks 2026:
Ted was the man who turned the All Blacks around from a bit of shambles to World Cup Winners. Ted has said that he thinks Dave Rennie would be a great All Blacks coach.
So with all due respect to other candidates, I hope Dave Rennie is the next man to lead the All Blacks.
All the best and most experienced NZ head coaches are unfortunately close to retirement - Cotter 64, Rennie 61, Schmidt 60, all these guys would've been ideal options post-Hansen after 2019 WC or 10 years ago but now the timing is such, they'd only be 2-year parachute options until 2027 WC.
I'd like to see Tony Brown, who only just turned 50, take over as head coach for a minimum 4-year contract after being assistant under those older guys (assuming they are targeted just for 2027 WC preparations).
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Schmidt is contracted to finish up with the Wallabies after taking on Italy on July 18, the same day New Zealand face Ireland at Eden Park.
Originally, Schmidt was due to step down from his role with the Wallabies after The Rugby Championship, but agreed to stay until the end of July to ensure a smooth transition to incoming coach Les Kiss, who will finish the Super Rugby season with the Queensland Reds.
Rugby Australia has been extremely pleased with Schmidt’s work with the Wallabies, and the New Zealander has maintained a close bond with the squad. Earlier this month, he oversaw a training camp in Sydney.
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@restofit said in All Blacks 2026:
@sparky said in All Blacks 2026:
Ted was the man who turned the All Blacks around from a bit of shambles to World Cup Winners. Ted has said that he thinks Dave Rennie would be a great All Blacks coach.
So with all due respect to other candidates, I hope Dave Rennie is the next man to lead the All Blacks.
All the best and most experienced NZ head coaches are unfortunately close to retirement - Cotter 64, Rennie 61, Schmidt 60, all these guys would've been ideal options post-Hansen after 2019 WC or 10 years ago but now the timing is such, they'd only be 2-year parachute options until 2027 WC.
I'd like to see Tony Brown, who only just turned 50, take over as head coach for a minimum 4-year contract after being assistant under those older guys (assuming they are targeted just for 2027 WC preparations).
Rennie and Schmidt probably have 6 years in them.
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@Nepia said in All Blacks 2026:
@restofit said in All Blacks 2026:
@sparky said in All Blacks 2026:
Ted was the man who turned the All Blacks around from a bit of shambles to World Cup Winners. Ted has said that he thinks Dave Rennie would be a great All Blacks coach.
So with all due respect to other candidates, I hope Dave Rennie is the next man to lead the All Blacks.
All the best and most experienced NZ head coaches are unfortunately close to retirement - Cotter 64, Rennie 61, Schmidt 60, all these guys would've been ideal options post-Hansen after 2019 WC or 10 years ago but now the timing is such, they'd only be 2-year parachute options until 2027 WC.
I'd like to see Tony Brown, who only just turned 50, take over as head coach for a minimum 4-year contract after being assistant under those older guys (assuming they are targeted just for 2027 WC preparations).
Rennie and Schmidt probably have 6 years in them.
I'd like Rennie or Schmidt, with Brown as assistant, through until 2027.
then a younger coach such as Clayton McMillan (who's still just 51) or Brown appointed for the longer term.
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@kpkanz said in All Blacks 2026:
@pakman said in All Blacks 2026:
Check out 3.34:
Anyone else getting weird vibes from this clip??
Ardie going through his gospel, looks like a cult leader.
And everyone clicking their fingers to show support rather than clapping like most normal humans, as if to indicate they are more aware and morally righteous for clicking in a room where I assume no one in it has high sensitivity to noise considering they play in packed stadiums??
And then why is he going through counting the number of Islanders/fijians in the team that are starting and celebrating as if a quota has been met?
Our diversity should be celebrated and rightfully so..but the vibe here feels more divisive as opposed to inclusive.
I'm happy Razor is gone, but I get toxic vibes from Ardie, and worry the more he sticks around the more he is influencing the newbies joining the group ie Sititi and co.
Albeit I also cringe seeing the golfing group in the ABs as well.
Starting to look like a cliche high school movie from the outside with all the cliques.
Exactly why I posted it.
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Think Rennie would be the best option, personally. Great coach, great manager. Wouldn't mind Joseph if he has Brown alongside him but I think six years would be too long a stint given how hard a taskmaster Joseph is.
I don't think Brown wants to be a head coach.
A lot of decent names being banded about but can't imagine there's much chance of all of them coming together as one coaching group. Realistically it's going to be a big name head coach, maybe one well known assistant who could step into the top role in the future, and then a couple of career assistants.
Joseph/Brown/Rennie/Ryan/Schmidt, for example, is a pipe dream.
Key thing is that if there's going to another new HC in 2028, they need to be involved as an assistant overthe next couple of years. If the incoming HC for 2026 is seen as a potential longer-term appointment (through to 2031) then happy for that assistant to come in from 2028.
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Tony Brown probably prefers to be the main assistant coach rather than head coach.
Best coaching group if available for me would be.
Joseph
Rennie, Brown, New Set Piece coach not Ryan (Don't want a coach with obvious agendas)
Schmidt as a selector or a another role whether it's in development pathways or assistant.
Get an ex AFL player similar to Mick Byrne in a kicking coach role.Bring back Darren Shand and Gilbert Enoka also.
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@restofit It doesn't look like Tony Brown is going to be available until after the 2027 World Cup.
To my mind, we are appointing a Head Coach on a 22 month contract to win that World Cup, then we will appoint someone else can come in defeat the British and Irish Lions and win the World Cup after that in the US.
