All Blacks 2026
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@jimmyb said in All Blacks 2026:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2026:
@jimmyb said in All Blacks 2026:
Rennie: Couldn’t buy a super rugby title
It was a decent rant, but I'm still trying to figure this one out.
Oh I have got that completely wrong and forgot he was coach in 2012 and 2013. My mistake. They were seriously good and I now see Rennie as a more viable alternative
Fuck man, that's hardly an oopsie. Oh just slipped my mind he won back to back titles straight away because that's pretty forgettable.
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@jimmyb Two more for your consideration.
John Mitchell - Coaching the All Blacks to their record away wins in both South Africa and Australia; Coaching the All Blacks to back-to-back wins in the Tri Nations; Coaching the USA to their visit win in the All Americas Championship; Undefeated in three years as coach of the England women's team; 2025 Women's World Cup winner; reigning World Coach of the Year.
Warren Gatland - Has coached over 200 rugby tests; Runner Up in the Six Nations with Ireland; Coached Waikato to the NPC title; three English Premiership and a European Title with Wasps; three Grand Slams and Six Nations Titles with Wales; Reaching the Rugby World Cup Semi Finals twice with Wales; Coaching the British and Irish Lions to their first series win in 16 years and a series draw in New Zealand.
We can't complain that we are short of potential Head Coaches with very impressive Coaching CVs indeed.
The questions are:
Do any of them fancy taking on the shit show?
Are any of them able to make the All Blacks more competitive with the best teams in the world and fast?
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@Bones Gats' record with Ireland and Wales is staggering given the resources he had available. One of the great coaches of all time. My concern is that he shit the bed with the Chiefs around Covid times. The trajectory of his career is in the wrong direction.
Even though I hate him, John Mitchell is an outstanding coach. I hope he applies.
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@sparky said in All Blacks 2026:
Do any of them fancy taking on the shit show?
Easier now Robinson has gone and Kirk has his feet under the table.
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@sparky said in All Blacks 2026:
Even though I hate him, John Mitchell is an outstanding. I hope he applies.
Get him as defence coach.
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@sparky unless I can't read, his "stint" with Ireland was quarter of a fucking century ago. Makes that article about 2011 look new age. Robertson was an AB!
Like I said, he doesn't do quick turnarounds, seems anytime he's brought in for that he does the opposite. He's a slow burner and not what we need.
It's down to Rennie.
Or Jones.
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@nzzp said in All Blacks 2026:
@sparky said in All Blacks 2026:
@Bones Warren Gatland started coaching Galway in 1989 so yeah he's been around as a coach for a very long time.
feels like 1889
I was still being schooled when rugby went professional. It was so amateur, I could have gone semi pro. I think that ends this conversation.
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@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2026:
I don't think Henry or Hansen had particularly impressive CVs (if titles were the only metric) when they were appointed, did they?
I take it you're talking about a Henry and Hansen who hadn't won multiple championships between them from opposite ends of the country nor tried their luck overseas?
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@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2026:
I don't think Henry or Hansen had particularly impressive CVs (if titles were the only metric) when they were appointed, did they?
Graham Henry had been Head Coach when Auckland won the NPC four times in a row in the 1990s and when the Blues won the Super 12 in 1996 and 1997 and then "Technical Adviser" when they won in 2003. He did so well at Wales initially that he was known by the locals as "The Great Redeemer".
It didn't go so well for him with the British and Irish Lions in 2001 and when he got sacked by Wales in 2002. He has since said he was suffering from burnout and clinical depression at the time.
Steve Hansen had coached Canterbury to a couple of NPC wins and been assistant at the 1999-2001 Threepeat Crusaders. His time at Wales was much less successful, but he had been All Blacks Assistant from 2004 to 2011 and was the continuation candidate after the 2011 World Cup win and was clearly liked and respected by the players.
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@W32 said in All Blacks 2026:
Apologies if this has been asked, but if the ABs were rated #1 in the world instead of #2, does the fern think he still would have been canned? Has this happened because a NZ coach (TB) is assisting Nzeds biggest rival and Kirk et al are thinking this is a genius move? Word is that it wasn't a player revolt so one has to think it’s because the ABs are not number one.
Or is this shake up because NZ rugby as a whole is in a shambles and Razor has effectively been the scapegoat?I think that Kirk has come out in the press and moved the emphasis away from the players feedback in an attempt to take some of the heat off them and minimise the narrative of a 'player revolt' - which is smart because it does not end well if this whole saga gets blamed on senior players - especially if they start getting hit with point blank questions when interviews start flowing this season.
But i think deep down that must have been a large part of it
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