Winter Olympics
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Death or Glory
She won’t die wondering
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It don't come off for her today, but no criticism from me for Lindsey Vonn for thinking she could still compete with the best in the world.
As Teddy Roosevelt said, it's the man (or in this case the woman) in the arena who matters.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat."
@sparky said in Winter Olympics:
It don't come off for her today, but no criticism from me for Lindsey Vonn for thinking she could still compete with the best in the world.
Are you tired after your attempt to scramble up some imaginary moral hill to plant a flag?
As Teddy Roosevelt said, it's the man (or in this case the woman) in the arena who matters.
You're off the mark here. Roosevelt’s point was about moral courage in the face of good-faith failure, not about suspending judgement when a decision is structurally unsound, as structurally unsound as her knee.
One can respect Vonn’s competitive drive, her extraordinary career, and still criticise the decision to enter an elite downhill race with a known, major mechanical deficit. The sort of defect that's required to arrest take-off asymmetry in jumps leading to unwanted rotation in flight and the obvious misaligned landing because the skis weren't flat and aligned.
Sad - yes. Predictable - yes. Criticisable - yes.
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Ric Flair knows courage when he sees it.
https://twitter.com/ricflairnatrboy/status/2020579015049003020?s=46
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Have watched the crash several times now its obvious it was caused by clipping a flag which spun her body side ways. Its debatable if the blown ACL was a factor or not, its likely was to some degree.
But i think alot of people are reading the headlines and assuming her knee gave out which caused the crash. I know that was my first thought as well -
Ric Flair knows courage when he sees it.
https://twitter.com/ricflairnatrboy/status/2020579015049003020?s=46
@sparky said in Winter Olympics:
Ric Flair knows courage when he sees it.
https://twitter.com/ricflairnatrboy/status/2020579015049003020?s=46
I'm genuinely shocked Ric Flair is saying something nice about someone other than himself.
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Ric Flair knows courage when he sees it.
https://twitter.com/ricflairnatrboy/status/2020579015049003020?s=46
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Ric Flair knows courage when he sees it.
https://twitter.com/ricflairnatrboy/status/2020579015049003020?s=46
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New event, Men's Team Combined (1 skier does Downhill, 1 skier does Slalom) where times are combined.
Another Swiss Gold for Franjo Van Allmen and first for Nef
Odermatt and Meillard (SUI) joint second with the Austrians Kriechmayr and Feller
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I've not really got any thoughts on the Vonn incident, but I find it amusing Ric Flair is being put forward as someone to listen to.
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New event, Men's Team Combined (1 skier does Downhill, 1 skier does Slalom) where times are combined.
Another Swiss Gold for Franjo Van Allmen and first for Nef
Odermatt and Meillard (SUI) joint second with the Austrians Kriechmayr and Feller
@MiketheSnow said in Winter Olympics:
New event, Men's Team Combined (1 skier does Downhill, 1 skier does Slalom) where times are combined.
Another Swiss Gold for Franjo Van Allmen and first for Nef
Odermatt and Meillard (SUI) joint second with the Austrians Kriechmayr and Feller
pretty cool event actually.
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New event, Men's Team Combined (1 skier does Downhill, 1 skier does Slalom) where times are combined.
Another Swiss Gold for Franjo Van Allmen and first for Nef
Odermatt and Meillard (SUI) joint second with the Austrians Kriechmayr and Feller
@MiketheSnow said in Winter Olympics:
New event, Men's Team Combined (1 skier does Downhill, 1 skier does Slalom) where times are combined.
Another Swiss Gold for Franjo Van Allmen and first for Nef
Odermatt and Meillard (SUI) joint second with the Austrians Kriechmayr and Feller
I think they should make this a relay with a transition near the lift. First onto the chair gives a massive advantage!
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Lindsay Vonn was interviewed post-accident. She reckons the ACL had no bearing on her accident. I don't know enough about skiing to know if that can be true. I guess the knee doesn't move as much as running. But it still has to support the body and take all that force as you cover the uneven terrain
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it's worth noting that this wasn't her first ski at the games, they had practice runs, and Vonn was 3rd fastest.
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it's worth noting that this wasn't her first ski at the games, they had practice runs, and Vonn was 3rd fastest.
@mariner4life said in Winter Olympics:
it's worth noting that this wasn't her first ski at the games, they had practice runs, and Vonn was 3rd fastest.
Was that after sustaining the ACL injury?
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yeah she entered the games with that injury
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She posted online earlier today stating it was her error and not the ACL injury that caused the crashed
She wrote she was 5 inches too tight in her line, clipping the gate.that left leg of hers must just be a throbbing mess of pain and will be for some time
