All Blacks - New Coach Selection
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- Dave Rennie and Jamie Joseph have both kept their counsel in recent weeks.
- Process now moves to the interview stage - where All Blacks will be critiqued.
- Separate announcement on new NZ Rugby chief executive could be imminent.
A mention that Foster could work with Rennie.
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
Has JJ indicated any potential assistants?
The article didn't go into any detail about potential assistant coaches for either, just that Rennie and Foster have a good relationship.
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Rugby Direct: Previewing the Super Rugby season and the latest in the All Blacks coaching race
https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/podcasts/rugby-direct/rugby-direct-episode-199/
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@gt12 said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
Yes please.
Who is head coach though?
Rennie and Jospeh have very contrasting views of how to build team culture.
I see this as highly unlikely. -
@gt12 said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
Yes please.
Who is head coach though?
Rennie and Jospeh have very contrasting views of how to build team culture.
I see this as highly unlikely. -
@gt12 said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
Yes please.
Who is head coach though?
Rennie and Jospeh have very contrasting views of how to build team culture.
I see this as highly unlikely.I think Joseph has the inside running.
Unless they give Rennie the top job on a two + two year basis with some agreement that he will step down if we a) don't win the WC (2 years) or b) win the WC and after 2+2 years, he turns it over to a new team (Joseph + Brown).
I think that's unlikely and Joseph may just say no in that case, and Rennie's time to get the top job is now or never IMO. He's been in Japan and away from top level for a couple of years, so I personally think he is the outsider for the role. Given that, if he isn't chosen as the number 1, I would hope he would consider being an AB assistant coach.
The other person I would really like to get in the team is Kenny Lynn.
Apologies, that was a bit of a ramble.
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I think Joseph has the inside running.
Unless they give Rennie the top job on a two + two year basis with some agreement that he will step down if we a) don't win the WC (2 years) or b) win the WC and after 2+2 years, he turns it over to a new team (Joseph + Brown).
I think that's unlikely and Joseph may just say no in that case, and Rennie's time to get the top job is now or never IMO. He's been in Japan and away from top level for a couple of years, so I personally think he is the outsider for the role. Given that, if he isn't chosen as the number 1, I would hope he would consider being an AB assistant coach.
The other person I would really like to get in the team is Kenny Lynn.
Apologies, that was a bit of a ramble.
@gt12 said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
Apologies, that was a bit of a ramble.
Not a ramble, that sounds sensible to me.
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Is Warren Gatland the Third Man?
https://twitter.com/rugby_hub/status/2021882131186913310?s=46
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@Kirwan said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
Warren Gatland would be a terrible choice IMO.
Over 200 tests coaching experience, three Grand Slams, two RWC Semi Finals, a European Cup, an NPC title and almost unrivalled knowledge and understanding of the game.
But he really stank the joint out with the Chiefs a few years ago.
Life wouldn't be dull with Gats at the wheel.
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@Kirwan said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
Warren Gatland would be a terrible choice IMO.
Over 200 tests coaching experience, three Grand Slams, two RWC Semi Finals, a European Cup, an NPC title and almost unrivalled knowledge and understanding of the game.
But he really stank the joint out with the Chiefs a few years ago.
Life wouldn't be dull with Gats at the wheel.
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Martin Devlin has clearly been tipped off that the new All Blacks coach will be announced next week:
https://twitter.com/martindevlinnz/status/2022043381317480946?s=46
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@Kirwan said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
Warren Gatland would be a terrible choice IMO.
Over 200 tests coaching experience, three Grand Slams, two RWC Semi Finals, a European Cup, an NPC title and almost unrivalled knowledge and understanding of the game.
But he really stank the joint out with the Chiefs a few years ago.
Life wouldn't be dull with Gats at the wheel.
@sparky said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
@Kirwan said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
Warren Gatland would be a terrible choice IMO.
Over 200 tests coaching experience, three Grand Slams, two RWC Semi Finals, a European Cup, an NPC title and almost unrivalled knowledge and understanding of the game.
But he really stank the joint out with the Chiefs a few years ago.
Life wouldn't be dull with Gats at the wheel.
Basic game plan with a far greater calibre of player than he had in Wales. Wasn't simplification and concentration on the basics something we wanted? I'm sure he could be more expansive with better cattle, and the right assistants. As an assistant he could be valuable
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I think Joseph has the inside running.
Unless they give Rennie the top job on a two + two year basis with some agreement that he will step down if we a) don't win the WC (2 years) or b) win the WC and after 2+2 years, he turns it over to a new team (Joseph + Brown).
I think that's unlikely and Joseph may just say no in that case, and Rennie's time to get the top job is now or never IMO. He's been in Japan and away from top level for a couple of years, so I personally think he is the outsider for the role. Given that, if he isn't chosen as the number 1, I would hope he would consider being an AB assistant coach.
The other person I would really like to get in the team is Kenny Lynn.
Apologies, that was a bit of a ramble.
@gt12 said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
I think Joseph has the inside running.
Unless they give Rennie the top job on a two + two year basis with some agreement that he will step down if we a) don't win the WC (2 years)
i dont think anyone is taking the job if the KPI is win the world cup within 2 years
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@gt12 said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
I think Joseph has the inside running.
Unless they give Rennie the top job on a two + two year basis with some agreement that he will step down if we a) don't win the WC (2 years)
i dont think anyone is taking the job if the KPI is win the world cup within 2 years
@Kiwiwomble If I were someone like Cotter, Rennie, Deans i.e. in my 60s and with retirement looming, I would.
Not a lot to lose if you fail in very tough circumstances, chance to become a legend for turning it around, and probably the last chance to have a crack at the job you would most likely have coveted over all others throughout your career. -
Gats was very popular with the chiefs. Personally if they are the 3 we are lucky to have 3 very good candidates I wouldn't want to have to make the choice
@ploughboy said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
Personally if they are the 3 we are lucky to have 3 very good candidates I wouldn't want to have to make the choice
Yep, it's a superb short list. And whoever gets the nod has my fervent support.
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@ploughboy said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
Personally if they are the 3 we are lucky to have 3 very good candidates I wouldn't want to have to make the choice
Yep, it's a superb short list. And whoever gets the nod has my fervent support.
@sparky said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
@ploughboy said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
Personally if they are the 3 we are lucky to have 3 very good candidates I wouldn't want to have to make the choice
Yep, it's a superb short list. And whoever gets the nod has my fervent support.
that's the thing if your pick doesn't get it lets get in behind them and not have the carry on from last two coaches
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@Kiwiwomble If I were someone like Cotter, Rennie, Deans i.e. in my 60s and with retirement looming, I would.
Not a lot to lose if you fail in very tough circumstances, chance to become a legend for turning it around, and probably the last chance to have a crack at the job you would most likely have coveted over all others throughout your career.@reprobate said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
@Kiwiwomble If I were someone like Cotter, Rennie, Deans i.e. in my 60s and with retirement looming, I would.
Not a lot to lose if you fail in very tough circumstances, chance to become a legend for turning it around, and probably the last chance to have a crack at the job you would most likely have coveted over all others throughout your career.i guess you might be right, not sure i like it thought, just role the dice with people with nothing to lose, think i would rather we had a long term plan, set a relistic KPI of the semis with a real aim of 2031 with an dominate squat of vetrans
