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All Blacks - New Coach Selection

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  • G game_film

    On the Breakdown they effectively said it was JJ just a matter of time. Goldie: 10-14 days and it’ll be announced.

    Also NZR looking at where they can fit Shag in upon his return. So that could be at Super, not necessarily the ABs

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    @game_film said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

    On the Breakdown they effectively said it was JJ just a matter of time. Goldie: 10-14 days and it’ll be announced.

    The same Breakdown team who thought Scott Robertson was safe from the end of season review and then said Tony Brown definitely had an exit clause from his Springboks deal?

    Forgive me for being sceptical of their oil.

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      if it's already decided, why wouldn't they announce it now? Especially if Goldie is telling us the result on national TV?

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        if it's already decided, why wouldn't they announce it now? Especially if Goldie is telling us the result on national TV?

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        @Chris-B. said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

        if it's already decided, why wouldn't they announce it now? Especially if Goldie is telling us the result on national TV?

        Maybe sorting the ramifications for other teams affected losing a coach.
        Highlanders you would think would be fairly straight forward being NZR contract but any other coaches may have to negotiate further and need anonymity at this stage?
        Sooner than later would be best even for the remaining Razor team so they can have some employment security, I'd say it can't be great time for them.

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          @Chris-B. said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

          if it's already decided, why wouldn't they announce it now? Especially if Goldie is telling us the result on national TV?

          Maybe sorting the ramifications for other teams affected losing a coach.
          Highlanders you would think would be fairly straight forward being NZR contract but any other coaches may have to negotiate further and need anonymity at this stage?
          Sooner than later would be best even for the remaining Razor team so they can have some employment security, I'd say it can't be great time for them.

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          @kidcalder Yeah - that's reasonable - but, every day you delay means more leaks in the dike, and it's already pouring.

          I'm inclined to think that it's not yet decided and someone posted that a couple of the selection panel have been spotteed on their way to Japan - which seems like a hybrid interview yet to take place.

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          • canefanC canefan

            @bayimports said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

            @game_film said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

            On the Breakdown they effectively said it was JJ just a matter of time. Goldie: 10-14 days and it’ll be announced.

            Also NZR looking at where they can fit Shag in upon his return. So that could be at Super, not necessarily the ABs

            this was one of the rumours I heard. Shag, JJ and McCaw. as a trio

            McCaw as cultural commissar and loose forward dark arts coach?

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            @canefan said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

            @bayimports said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

            @game_film said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

            On the Breakdown they effectively said it was JJ just a matter of time. Goldie: 10-14 days and it’ll be announced.

            Also NZR looking at where they can fit Shag in upon his return. So that could be at Super, not necessarily the ABs

            this was one of the rumours I heard. Shag, JJ and McCaw. as a trio

            McCaw as cultural commissar and loose forward dark arts coach?

            technical assistant, to be clear heard many rumours..this was just one of them, so i dont give this one much weight, but found it interesting that shag and jj getting mentioned together adds a bit of flavour to it

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              @canefan said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

              @bayimports said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

              @game_film said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

              On the Breakdown they effectively said it was JJ just a matter of time. Goldie: 10-14 days and it’ll be announced.

              Also NZR looking at where they can fit Shag in upon his return. So that could be at Super, not necessarily the ABs

              this was one of the rumours I heard. Shag, JJ and McCaw. as a trio

              McCaw as cultural commissar and loose forward dark arts coach?

              technical assistant, to be clear heard many rumours..this was just one of them, so i dont give this one much weight, but found it interesting that shag and jj getting mentioned together adds a bit of flavour to it

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              @bayimports Yeah, McCaw wouldn’t need to be doing any of the actual coaching. Just someone to have a word with the adidas execs to tell them the yellow boots phase is over

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              • Chris B.C Chris B.

                @Bones If you're blacklisted ,you don't get to play.

                If you get to play - how can you be blacklisted?

                Or does someone have some nonsensical text that applies to this blacklisting?

                Is it only on Thursdays?

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                @Chris-B. said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

                Is it only on Thursdays?

                You might have it, what day was the Wales team announced?

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                • G game_film

                  @bayimports Yeah, McCaw wouldn’t need to be doing any of the actual coaching. Just someone to have a word with the adidas execs to tell them the yellow boots phase is over

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                  @game_film said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

                  @bayimports Yeah, McCaw wouldn’t need to be doing any of the actual coaching. Just someone to have a word with the adidas execs to tell them the yellow boots phase is over

                  Now we’re fucking talking.

                  More of this please.

                  Short back and sides haircuts mandatory. Unless of Pasifika descent. Accomodations can be made.

                  Sex with lights off, socks on , missionary only. No kissing.

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                  • Landers92L Landers92

                    @frugby said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

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                    Devlin going against the grain

                    This is what I just came here to post as well. The latest on the rumour mill from my sources is it won’t be decided until March.

                    Starting to think I won’t post everything I hear as it’s just gone willy nilly. Eg throw enough shit at a wall and it’ll stick eventually.

                    What do they gain by waiting until March? I have no idea other than the Japan season may be over so could suit a Rennie announcement?

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                    @Landers92 said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

                    This is what I just came here to post as well. The latest on the rumour mill from my sources is it won’t be decided until March.

                    NZR have not actually selected an AB HC since 2004.
                    This is all a bit new . . . so take your time . . . no rush . . .

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                    • J Jet

                      @game_film said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

                      @bayimports Yeah, McCaw wouldn’t need to be doing any of the actual coaching. Just someone to have a word with the adidas execs to tell them the yellow boots phase is over

                      Now we’re fucking talking.

                      More of this please.

                      Short back and sides haircuts mandatory. Unless of Pasifika descent. Accomodations can be made.

                      Sex with lights off, socks on , missionary only. No kissing.

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                      @Jet

                      McCaw was actually with the team last year, some sort of leadership coach role, so he would have had a good view of what was going on, love to know what his thoughts were.

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                        @Jet

                        McCaw was actually with the team last year, some sort of leadership coach role, so he would have had a good view of what was going on, love to know what his thoughts were.

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                        @mohikamo said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

                        @Jet

                        McCaw was actually with the team last year, some sort of leadership coach role, so he would have had a good view of what was going on, love to know what his thoughts were.

                        Well his interview he gave about some of the current crop being more “me” than “we” speaks volumes.

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                          @mohikamo said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

                          @Jet

                          McCaw was actually with the team last year, some sort of leadership coach role, so he would have had a good view of what was going on, love to know what his thoughts were.

                          Well his interview he gave about some of the current crop being more “me” than “we” speaks volumes.

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                          @Jet

                          haha, probably putting it mildly

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                          • BonesB Bones

                            @Chris-B. said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

                            @Bones said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

                            @Chris-B. Yeah, right? What on earth makes people moan these players don't get meaningful minutes? Wales have won a grand slam!

                            What does that have to do with anything?

                            Did he get blacklisted?

                            I've just applied some critical thought - and presented some pretty compelling evidence - rarity though that is in this day and age!!!

                            Wait, are you trying to turn my post against us? You mean he did play meaningful minutes and wasn't blacklisted? Critical thought typically takes in all factors was my assumption, not just ones that suit an opinion.

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                            @Bones said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

                            @Chris-B. said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

                            @Bones said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

                            @Chris-B. Yeah, right? What on earth makes people moan these players don't get meaningful minutes? Wales have won a grand slam!

                            What does that have to do with anything?

                            Did he get blacklisted?

                            I've just applied some critical thought - and presented some pretty compelling evidence - rarity though that is in this day and age!!!

                            Wait, are you trying to turn my post against us? You mean he did play meaningful minutes and wasn't blacklisted? Critical thought typically takes in all factors was my assumption, not just ones that suit an opinion.

                            Critical thought on the Fern?

                            I've heard it all now.

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                            • J Jet

                              @mohikamo said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

                              @Jet

                              McCaw was actually with the team last year, some sort of leadership coach role, so he would have had a good view of what was going on, love to know what his thoughts were.

                              Well his interview he gave about some of the current crop being more “me” than “we” speaks volumes.

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                              @Jet said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

                              @mohikamo said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

                              @Jet

                              McCaw was actually with the team last year, some sort of leadership coach role, so he would have had a good view of what was going on, love to know what his thoughts were.

                              Well his interview he gave about some of the current crop being more “me” than “we” speaks volumes.

                              Jet, i dis get the feel that we have seemingly gone away from a true AB team culture over the last couple of years, culminating in the collapse of it last year.

                              MCCaw as Leadership/Culture mentor would be a great step for us to take as we need to repair this and have our culture set the standards and have the individuals to improve it. We were the most un All black side i ever saw last year so lot of work needs to be done on this and in a hurry

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                                Really surprised anyone thinks we need anymore made up roles in the ABs . We just need a coach with right attributes, no f***en culture mentors, coaching mentors etc. I really think most of problems we keep alluding to is caused by too many voices!
                                Personally want less , not more!

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                                  Really surprised anyone thinks we need anymore made up roles in the ABs . We just need a coach with right attributes, no f***en culture mentors, coaching mentors etc. I really think most of problems we keep alluding to is caused by too many voices!
                                  Personally want less , not more!

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                                  @Dan54 I hear ya. But why not utilise some of the available IP. He can teach the new captain how to captain, for example. Lead the players in establishing standards so the coach can focus on game planning. Could actually result in fewer voices instead of having a leadership group with 7 included.

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                                    @Bones said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

                                    @Chris-B. said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

                                    @Bones said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

                                    @Chris-B. Yeah, right? What on earth makes people moan these players don't get meaningful minutes? Wales have won a grand slam!

                                    What does that have to do with anything?

                                    Did he get blacklisted?

                                    I've just applied some critical thought - and presented some pretty compelling evidence - rarity though that is in this day and age!!!

                                    Wait, are you trying to turn my post against us? You mean he did play meaningful minutes and wasn't blacklisted? Critical thought typically takes in all factors was my assumption, not just ones that suit an opinion.

                                    Critical thought on the Fern?

                                    I've heard it all now.

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                                    @pakman said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

                                    Critical thought on the Fern?

                                    I've heard it all now.

                                    Phantom cognition. Some people believe it's set off at night by sensitive teenagers.

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                                    • G game_film

                                      @Dan54 I hear ya. But why not utilise some of the available IP. He can teach the new captain how to captain, for example. Lead the players in establishing standards so the coach can focus on game planning. Could actually result in fewer voices instead of having a leadership group with 7 included.

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                                      @game_film said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

                                      . He can teach the new captain how to captain, for example. Lead the players in establishing standards so the coach can focus on game planning

                                      Sounds like the sort of thing a Head Coach should be doing. Not sure adding what is effectively another layer of management would help

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                                        Hell I am happy we are not getting the constant stream of info leaks we have been getting the past couple of years. That will be so much better for the coaches, staff and franchises caught up in the changes. It isn't as simple as just naming the coach. Looks to be being done in a professional manner.

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                                          Hell I am happy we are not getting the constant stream of info leaks we have been getting the past couple of years. That will be so much better for the coaches, staff and franchises caught up in the changes. It isn't as simple as just naming the coach. Looks to be being done in a professional manner.

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                                          @ARHS maybe Razor was the leak 😉

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