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All Blacks - New Coach Selection

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    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

    @W32 said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

    Short back and sides haircuts mandatory. Unless of Pasifika descent.

    Nonu wouldn't have made it then i guess..

    The guy with Samoan ethnicity? Doesn't he get the 'of Pasifika descent 'waiver?

    Not with all that makeup he doesnt.

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    @W32 said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
    thnicity? Doesn't he get the 'of Pasifika descent 'waiver?

    Not with all that makeup he doesnt.

    I hope you told L'Oréal Paris Men Expert brand ambassadors Faf de Klerk and Cheslin Kolbe that!

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      @W32 said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
      thnicity? Doesn't he get the 'of Pasifika descent 'waiver?

      Not with all that makeup he doesnt.

      I hope you told L'Oréal Paris Men Expert brand ambassadors Faf de Klerk and Cheslin Kolbe that!

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      @nostrildamus said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

      @W32 said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
      thnicity? Doesn't he get the 'of Pasifika descent 'waiver?

      Not with all that makeup he doesnt.

      I hope you told L'Oréal Paris Men Expert brand ambassadors Faf de Klerk and Cheslin Kolbe that!

      Skin moisturizer? Yes! Eyeliner? NOOOO

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        • Rennie and Joseph both see themselves as head coaches only.
        • Next All Blacks coach unlikely to known until the second week of March.
        • High-calibre and diverse assistants ready to work with either coach.

        https://www.thepost.co.nz/sport/360951310/head-coach-or-bust-jamie-joseph-and-dave-rennie-wont-team-all-blacks

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        @Bovidae said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

        • Rennie and Joseph both see themselves as head coaches only.
        • Next All Blacks coach unlikely to known until the second week of March.
        • High-calibre and diverse assistants ready to work with either coach.

        https://www.thepost.co.nz/sport/360951310/head-coach-or-bust-jamie-joseph-and-dave-rennie-wont-team-all-blacks

        At the end of the article - "The Post understands that the Highlanders have told NZ Rugby they would like to keep Joseph until the end of the Super Rugby season if he gets the All Blacks job."

        Yeah fuck off Highlanders.

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        • F Frank

          @Bovidae said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

          • Rennie and Joseph both see themselves as head coaches only.
          • Next All Blacks coach unlikely to known until the second week of March.
          • High-calibre and diverse assistants ready to work with either coach.

          https://www.thepost.co.nz/sport/360951310/head-coach-or-bust-jamie-joseph-and-dave-rennie-wont-team-all-blacks

          At the end of the article - "The Post understands that the Highlanders have told NZ Rugby they would like to keep Joseph until the end of the Super Rugby season if he gets the All Blacks job."

          Yeah fuck off Highlanders.

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          @Frank said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

          @Bovidae said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

          • Rennie and Joseph both see themselves as head coaches only.
          • Next All Blacks coach unlikely to known until the second week of March.
          • High-calibre and diverse assistants ready to work with either coach.

          https://www.thepost.co.nz/sport/360951310/head-coach-or-bust-jamie-joseph-and-dave-rennie-wont-team-all-blacks

          At the end of the article - "The Post understands that the Highlanders have told NZ Rugby they would like to keep Joseph until the end of the Super Rugby season if he gets the All Blacks job."

          Yeah fuck off Highlanders.

          You might as well say fuck off Joseph.

          If the Highlanders are requesting it, it'll be what Joseph wants too. He will have loyalty to Roger Clark, his playing group and fellow coaches.

          If he said, fuck you guys, I get this, I'm out the door. The Highlanders will have no choice but to say ah well, that's shit. Guess it is happening.

          These are unique circumstances. There are ways to ensure the best steps are put in place for all parties.

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          • S SouthernMann

            @Frank said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

            @Bovidae said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

            • Rennie and Joseph both see themselves as head coaches only.
            • Next All Blacks coach unlikely to known until the second week of March.
            • High-calibre and diverse assistants ready to work with either coach.

            https://www.thepost.co.nz/sport/360951310/head-coach-or-bust-jamie-joseph-and-dave-rennie-wont-team-all-blacks

            At the end of the article - "The Post understands that the Highlanders have told NZ Rugby they would like to keep Joseph until the end of the Super Rugby season if he gets the All Blacks job."

            Yeah fuck off Highlanders.

            You might as well say fuck off Joseph.

            If the Highlanders are requesting it, it'll be what Joseph wants too. He will have loyalty to Roger Clark, his playing group and fellow coaches.

            If he said, fuck you guys, I get this, I'm out the door. The Highlanders will have no choice but to say ah well, that's shit. Guess it is happening.

            These are unique circumstances. There are ways to ensure the best steps are put in place for all parties.

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            @SouthernMann
            The All Blacks are far more important than the Highlanders.

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            • F Frank

              @SouthernMann
              The All Blacks are far more important than the Highlanders.

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              @Frank said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

              @SouthernMann
              The All Blacks are far more important than the Highlanders.

              That is a matter for Joseph and NZR to work through. Joseph currently has a commitment to a side.

              The All Blacks also aren't playing for 136 days. Have the right team and enable him to work constructively with others. Likely assitant coaches will also have current jobs too.

              I doubt it will be a straight forward swap out swap in.

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                The timeframe is going to be tight for either Rennie or Joseph. That is why I said previously that the choice of assistant coaches will be more important as they can run a critical eye over the players in SR for the selection process. More complicated if some are currently part of a SR coaching group.

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                  Last Super Rugby pool game is May 30.
                  Super Rugby final this year is June 23.
                  First All Black game against France is July 4.
                  First Springbok tour game August 7.

                  I'd say if Jospeh want the AB job he should be an independent coach well before the end of Super Rugby. (and the same goes for Rennie)

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                  • F Frank

                    @Bovidae said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

                    • Rennie and Joseph both see themselves as head coaches only.
                    • Next All Blacks coach unlikely to known until the second week of March.
                    • High-calibre and diverse assistants ready to work with either coach.

                    https://www.thepost.co.nz/sport/360951310/head-coach-or-bust-jamie-joseph-and-dave-rennie-wont-team-all-blacks

                    At the end of the article - "The Post understands that the Highlanders have told NZ Rugby they would like to keep Joseph until the end of the Super Rugby season if he gets the All Blacks job."

                    Yeah fuck off Highlanders.

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                    @Frank said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

                    @Bovidae said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

                    • Rennie and Joseph both see themselves as head coaches only.
                    • Next All Blacks coach unlikely to known until the second week of March.
                    • High-calibre and diverse assistants ready to work with either coach.

                    https://www.thepost.co.nz/sport/360951310/head-coach-or-bust-jamie-joseph-and-dave-rennie-wont-team-all-blacks

                    At the end of the article - "The Post understands that the Highlanders have told NZ Rugby they would like to keep Joseph until the end of the Super Rugby season if he gets the All Blacks job."

                    Yeah fuck off Highlanders.

                    fuck off yourself, no need to be a dick, completely reasonable request, especially as the start of a negotiation , we might settle on a supervisory role and less day to day

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                    • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                      @Frank said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

                      @Bovidae said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

                      • Rennie and Joseph both see themselves as head coaches only.
                      • Next All Blacks coach unlikely to known until the second week of March.
                      • High-calibre and diverse assistants ready to work with either coach.

                      https://www.thepost.co.nz/sport/360951310/head-coach-or-bust-jamie-joseph-and-dave-rennie-wont-team-all-blacks

                      At the end of the article - "The Post understands that the Highlanders have told NZ Rugby they would like to keep Joseph until the end of the Super Rugby season if he gets the All Blacks job."

                      Yeah fuck off Highlanders.

                      fuck off yourself, no need to be a dick, completely reasonable request, especially as the start of a negotiation , we might settle on a supervisory role and less day to day

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                      @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

                      @Frank said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

                      @Bovidae said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

                      • Rennie and Joseph both see themselves as head coaches only.
                      • Next All Blacks coach unlikely to known until the second week of March.
                      • High-calibre and diverse assistants ready to work with either coach.

                      https://www.thepost.co.nz/sport/360951310/head-coach-or-bust-jamie-joseph-and-dave-rennie-wont-team-all-blacks

                      At the end of the article - "The Post understands that the Highlanders have told NZ Rugby they would like to keep Joseph until the end of the Super Rugby season if he gets the All Blacks job."

                      Yeah fuck off Highlanders.

                      fuck off yourself, no need to be a dick, completely reasonable request, especially as the start of a negotiation , we might settle on a supervisory role and less day to day

                      But if it is Joseph asking, that could lean the board to pick Rennie! But who knows?! Not me!

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                        The Japanese top league season runs until May as well.

                        Why would a Japanese side give Rennie an early release. They don't give a fuck about the All Blacks.

                        Out of the two coaches finishing in May. Do you prefer the one coaching in the competition? or the one in a different one.

                        These are both active coaches. Where comprimises will need to be made.

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                          the fact people are so quick to fuck over domestic rugby without considering compromises is just another example of how the game is shrinking not growing....im my probably overly simplistic mind....fans of a domestic team will naturally follow on and watch the national team either because of national pride, or its going to be a higher more impressive quality or just to follow their fav local players.....if we only have fans of the national team....if we only focus on that....it doesnt naturally flow the other way....which option sound slike it gets more bums in seats

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                            This is all part of the negotiation. Perfectly reasonable for the Highlanders to want that to happen.

                            But the chances of it actually happening are very slim.

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                            • F frugby

                              This is all part of the negotiation. Perfectly reasonable for the Highlanders to want that to happen.

                              But the chances of it actually happening are very slim.

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                              @frugby additionally, I doubt any coach moving from Super to AB duties is gonna want to leave thier team in the lurch, there will be a plan of some sort.

                              Who knows, maybe the players have noticed a bit more handsoff approach by JJ this year with his impending exit (if it transpires)

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                                as a related aside, for coaches in NZ super or say in Japan, do they often have a break clause in the situation where they are suddenly picked for national rugby teams? I'd hazard there's some world rugby overall policy on this but AI tells me there isn't? Interesting.

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                                • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                                  as a related aside, for coaches in NZ super or say in Japan, do they often have a break clause in the situation where they are suddenly picked for national rugby teams? I'd hazard there's some world rugby overall policy on this but AI tells me there isn't? Interesting.

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                                  @nostrildamus i mean, for NZ arent they the same employer ultimately?

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                                    Last Super Rugby pool game is May 30.
                                    Super Rugby final this year is June 23.
                                    First All Black game against France is July 4.
                                    First Springbok tour game August 7.

                                    I'd say if Jospeh want the AB job he should be an independent coach well before the end of Super Rugby. (and the same goes for Rennie)

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                                    @Frank said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

                                    Last Super Rugby pool game is May 30.
                                    Super Rugby final this year is June 23.
                                    First All Black game against France is July 4.
                                    First Springbok tour game August 7.

                                    I'd say if Jospeh want the AB job he should be an independent coach well before the end of Super Rugby. (and the same goes for Rennie)

                                    Its probably do able but I wouldn't think its ideal for an AB head coach. I def prefer all his time and planning going towards the international season ahead which is going to be freakishly tough enough

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                                      I'm not as worried about lead in time

                                      Razor had more than a year between his last Super game coached and his first AB game as coach and it was certainly not apparent.

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                                        I'm not as worried about lead in time

                                        Razor had more than a year between his last Super game coached and his first AB game as coach and it was certainly not apparent.

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                                        • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                          I'm not as worried about lead in time

                                          Razor had more than a year between his last Super game coached and his first AB game as coach and it was certainly not apparent.

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                                          @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

                                          I'm not as worried about lead in time

                                          Razor had more than a year between his last Super game coached and his first AB game as coach and it was certainly not apparent.

                                          @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

                                          I'm not as worried about lead in time

                                          Razor had more than a year between his last Super game coached and his first AB game as coach and it was certainly not apparent.

                                          That's a point that bears repeating.

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