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  • CrucialC Offline
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    Crucial
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    I don't follow MMA at all but this guy does his S&C training at the gym my son works at. He was showing me a video the other day where Jimi wanted to do some work on a heavy bag and the only guy in the gym they could rope in to hold it was an ex Harlequins front rower (can't remember which one). He was really struggling to hold the bag steady . The power in the kicks looked like they would kill you if they hit you.
    https://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/fighters/jimi-manuwa-the-poster-boy

    Have also seen him doing this thing to strengthen his neck against taking head shots where he is basically using one of the weight machines with a cloth tied to it and gripped in his teeth

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    • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

      UFC Fight Night 106

      Borrachinha is a beast. Will be interesting to see his development in the UFC.

      Great finish from Prazeres.

      Yaha v Soto was a war. Great comeback from Soto.

      Great patience and strength from Lee to beat Trinaldo.

      Oliveira too strong for Means.

      Superb finish from Barboza. BOOOOOOOOM

      Good old fashioned battle between Rua and Villante, with Rua finishing crisply and decisively.

      Gastelum finishes Belfort on the back of a super fast jab. Tremendous.

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      Duluth
      wrote on last edited by Duluth
      #265

      @MiketheSnow said in UFC:

      Superb finish from Barboza. BOOOOOOOOM

      Dariush moving forward into it made the force even more brtual

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      Situations like this are why I dislike seeing female refs in the UFC. In this instance Barboza was already starting to disengage, however the ref was correct to go flying in there to protect the downed fighter.
      Can the female refs throw their weight around as well as this guy or Big John/Herb? Its a physical job and tokenism puts the fighters at risk.
      Earlier in this card there was an accidental headbutt and the female ref took ~10secs to seperate the fighters.. they barely noticed her trying to pull them apart

      So many good fights on that card. One of the better fight nights for a while

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      • DuluthD Duluth

        @MiketheSnow said in UFC:

        Superb finish from Barboza. BOOOOOOOOM

        Dariush moving forward into it made the force even more brtual

        alt text

        Situations like this are why I dislike seeing female refs in the UFC. In this instance Barboza was already starting to disengage, however the ref was correct to go flying in there to protect the downed fighter.
        Can the female refs throw their weight around as well as this guy or Big John/Herb? Its a physical job and tokenism puts the fighters at risk.
        Earlier in this card there was an accidental headbutt and the female ref took ~10secs to seperate the fighters.. they barely noticed her trying to pull them apart

        So many good fights on that card. One of the better fight nights for a while

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        #266

        @Duluth there are female refs in the UFC? Thats PC gone complete and utterly mad. Maybe in the womans division at a cinch ...

        But yes, refs should be be strong guys who would be able to withstand the force of a misdirected punch.

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        • MajorPomM MajorPom

          @Duluth there are female refs in the UFC? Thats PC gone complete and utterly mad. Maybe in the womans division at a cinch ...

          But yes, refs should be be strong guys who would be able to withstand the force of a misdirected punch.

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          Duluth
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          #267

          @MajorRage

          This is the first time I've seen this female ref. There is another one that works on a lot of the vegas cards

          Heres the incident I'm talking about - the accidental headbutt (shitty video quality)

          Check out how long it takes to break them up. If the guy was dazed he could have taken some damage that could have affected the result

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          • MajorPomM MajorPom

            @Duluth there are female refs in the UFC? Thats PC gone complete and utterly mad. Maybe in the womans division at a cinch ...

            But yes, refs should be be strong guys who would be able to withstand the force of a misdirected punch.

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            Crucial
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            #268

            @MajorRage said in UFC:

            @Duluth there are female refs in the UFC? Thats PC gone complete and utterly mad. Maybe in the womans division at a cinch ...

            But yes, refs should be be strong guys who would be able to withstand the force of a misdirected punch.

            Don't know if you'd find many that could take anything more than a glancing blow.

            I know little to nothing about MMA itself. It just doesn't interest me as a sport but I am getting quite interested in hearing about some of the training they do. My son was showing me a video last night of some S&C training he did yesterday with that Jimi Manuwa that I linked above. He was standing about 2 metres out from a wall with his back to it and hiffing a 15kg medicine ball behind him that was bouncing back and being caught about 4 metres out. That is some power! Certainly not a stray hit I'd like to take.

            BTW if anyone is looking for a flutter this weekend, the inside word is that Jimi has upped all his numbers quite a bit since his last fight. Just needs to do a good weight drop for weigh in now.

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            • CrucialC Crucial

              @MajorRage said in UFC:

              @Duluth there are female refs in the UFC? Thats PC gone complete and utterly mad. Maybe in the womans division at a cinch ...

              But yes, refs should be be strong guys who would be able to withstand the force of a misdirected punch.

              Don't know if you'd find many that could take anything more than a glancing blow.

              I know little to nothing about MMA itself. It just doesn't interest me as a sport but I am getting quite interested in hearing about some of the training they do. My son was showing me a video last night of some S&C training he did yesterday with that Jimi Manuwa that I linked above. He was standing about 2 metres out from a wall with his back to it and hiffing a 15kg medicine ball behind him that was bouncing back and being caught about 4 metres out. That is some power! Certainly not a stray hit I'd like to take.

              BTW if anyone is looking for a flutter this weekend, the inside word is that Jimi has upped all his numbers quite a bit since his last fight. Just needs to do a good weight drop for weigh in now.

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              Duluth
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              @Crucial said in UFC:

              BTW if anyone is looking for a flutter this weekend, the inside word is that Jimi has upped all his numbers quite a bit since his last fight. Just needs to do a good weight drop for weigh in now.

              Not sure about that. Manuwa is rightly the favourite but there is not much value there

              If the fight stays on the feet Manuwa is the better striker by a long way.

              Anderson has been unimpressive but he has a style that could take advantage of Manuwa's take down defence. It doesn't matter what numbers he's pushing in the gym if his can't sort that out. Anderson could win in a dull humping match

              Then there is the question of age: Manuwa 37 vs Anderson 27 and Manuwa has been put to sleep in 2 of his last 4 fights

              I still pick Manuwa to win but those odds I've seen aren't attractive enough given the risk

              Oh and hopefully one day we'll see Corey Anderson vs Pat Cummins to really confuse cricket fans

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                #270

                http://www.mmafighting.com/2017/3/13/14909326/stunning-double-knockout-ends-fight-in-dramatic-fashion-at-shamrock-fc-285

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                • DuluthD Offline
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                  #271

                  A shitty end to Pickett's career, it looked like he comfortably won the first two rounds then got caught by a kick in the third. Just one win in his last seven fights

                  Gunnar look great against Jouban. So many good match ups coming in the WW division.

                  Manuwa got the expected early knock out against Corey 'bitch tits' Anderson. Corey had a decent chance if he got the fight to ground, but he was waaay too eager for the take down and was shooting from distance.
                  On the feet it was just a matter of time. It was a clean knock out shot that Rumble Johnson would be proud of.

                  I had to laugh when he claimed that knocking out Anderson should get him a title shot. There's a gap between the top of LHW (Cormier, Johnson, Gustafsson, Jones) and the rest. The top guys have a lot of sorting out to do before Manuwa deserves a look in.
                  Maybe he should fight the loser of Cormier/Johnson, the loser of Teixeira/Gustafsson or if he gets lucky a return fight for Jones (I suspect Jones will get a title shot immediately)

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                  • DuluthD Offline
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                    #272

                    Nothing formally confirmed for the Auckland Fight Night but these are the rumoured fights so far:

                    Division
                    Derrick Lewis Mark Hunt Heavyweight
                    Derek Brunson Dan Kelly Middleweight
                    Joseph Benavidez Ben Nguyen Flyweight
                    John Moraga Ashkan Mokhtarian Flyweight
                    Dan Hooker Ross Pearson Lightweight
                    Damien Brown Vinc Pichel Lightweight

                    Thats a hard fight for Hunt. Lewis would be one of the scariest fighters in the UFC

                    Dan Kelly shouldn't be a test for Brunson but that guy finds a way to stay in fights

                    Looking forward to seeing how Hooker goes against a veteran

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                    • DuluthD Duluth

                      Nothing formally confirmed for the Auckland Fight Night but these are the rumoured fights so far:

                      Division
                      Derrick Lewis Mark Hunt Heavyweight
                      Derek Brunson Dan Kelly Middleweight
                      Joseph Benavidez Ben Nguyen Flyweight
                      John Moraga Ashkan Mokhtarian Flyweight
                      Dan Hooker Ross Pearson Lightweight
                      Damien Brown Vinc Pichel Lightweight

                      Thats a hard fight for Hunt. Lewis would be one of the scariest fighters in the UFC

                      Dan Kelly shouldn't be a test for Brunson but that guy finds a way to stay in fights

                      Looking forward to seeing how Hooker goes against a veteran

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                      Hooroo
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #273

                      @Duluth said in UFC:

                      Nothing formally confirmed for the Auckland Fight Night but these are the rumoured fights so far:

                      Division
                      Derrick Lewis Mark Hunt Heavyweight
                      Derek Brunson Dan Kelly Middleweight
                      Joseph Benavidez Ben Nguyen Flyweight
                      John Moraga Ashkan Mokhtarian Flyweight
                      Dan Hooker Ross Pearson Lightweight
                      Damien Brown Vinc Pichel Lightweight

                      Thats a hard fight for Hunt. Lewis would be one of the scariest fighters in the UFC

                      Dan Kelly shouldn't be a test for Brunson but that guy finds a way to stay in fights

                      Looking forward to seeing how Hooker goes against a veteran

                      Are you going to this?

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                        @Duluth said in UFC:

                        Nothing formally confirmed for the Auckland Fight Night but these are the rumoured fights so far:

                        Division
                        Derrick Lewis Mark Hunt Heavyweight
                        Derek Brunson Dan Kelly Middleweight
                        Joseph Benavidez Ben Nguyen Flyweight
                        John Moraga Ashkan Mokhtarian Flyweight
                        Dan Hooker Ross Pearson Lightweight
                        Damien Brown Vinc Pichel Lightweight

                        Thats a hard fight for Hunt. Lewis would be one of the scariest fighters in the UFC

                        Dan Kelly shouldn't be a test for Brunson but that guy finds a way to stay in fights

                        Looking forward to seeing how Hooker goes against a veteran

                        Are you going to this?

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                        Duluth
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                        #274

                        @Hooroo

                        Yes

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                          #275

                          I will be in NZ then too ... might have to look into it!

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                            UFC 211

                            Watching the Prelims

                            What a fight between Chase Sherman and Rashad Coulter

                            Heavyweight heart and heavy hitting. Cracking.

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                              #277

                              Skelly v Knight
                              Another cracker.
                              Mississippi in the House

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                                #278

                                Alvarez v Poirier
                                WOW
                                Lots of talk about the 6th round between Joshua v Klitschko
                                Watch the second round of this match. Next level.
                                Tough as.
                                Then mix up with old rules v new rules and it's a No Contest
                                Shame. That was going to finish one way or another
                                Rematch for definite

                                Best Prelim Card I've ever seen

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                                  Joanna is the GOAT woman fighter. Rhonda is so one dimensional compared to her.

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                                    Joanna is the GOAT woman fighter. Rhonda is so one dimensional compared to her.

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                                    MiketheSnow
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                                    @Unco said in UFC:

                                    Joanna is the GOAT woman fighter. Rhonda is so one dimensional compared to her.

                                    Edgar, nails.
                                    Maia, nails.
                                    Miocic, nails.

                                    Boxing has Triple G, Women's MMA has Triple J

                                    Joanna 'Jab' Jedrzejczyk

                                    Awesome, awesome display against a very tough opponent

                                    Prelim plus Main Card = one of the best in a very, very long time

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                                      UFC wants Bisping to fight Romero in the next few months, however Bisping is injured

                                      He believes there will be an interim belt and the fight will between Romero and the Aussie/Kiwi Robert Whittaker

                                      I suspect both of those guys would beat Bisping (along with the a few other middleweights) so theres a reasonable chance this part of the world has a UFC champion soon.

                                      Romero would be favourite though.

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                                        MiketheSnow
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                                        #282

                                        Strong card for Fight Night Gustafsson vs Teixeira

                                        Great finish from Hadzovic
                                        Solid performance from Till
                                        Velickovic rang Musoke's bell

                                        Big win for Oezdemir

                                        And hard, hard fight between Gustafsson and Teixeira, with a devastating finish

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                                          #283

                                          UFC 212

                                          Alcantara v Kelleher
                                          Big upset, great patience and confidence from Kelleher on his debut. Got the guillotine in early and tight.

                                          Eduardo v Lopez
                                          Another upset. Lopez pummelled Eduardo after he slipped the leg lock

                                          Carlos Junior v Spicely
                                          Really technical and interesting ground fight with Carlos Junior submitting Spicely by rear naked choke in the 2nd

                                          Assuncao v Moraes
                                          Shadow boxing session with a few fireworks at the death
                                          Assuncao as the 3rd ranked fighter in the division was very unimpressive and could easily have lost the slpit decision

                                          Silva v Medeiros
                                          Great left hook from Medeiros to put Silva on his back, then ground & pound to finish the fight. Early as far as Silva was concerned.

                                          Borrachinha v Bamgbose
                                          Borrachinha punished Bamgbose. Brutal kicks to the body

                                          Belfort v Marquardt
                                          Tough, tough fight between two veterans
                                          Belfort gets the unanimous decision. Not sure about that

                                          Gadelha v Kowalkiewicz
                                          Great finish from Gadelha. Made it look easy.

                                          Aldo v Holloway
                                          Rnd 1 to Aldo, but Holloway showed a great chin
                                          Rnd 2 to Holloway, with Aldo showing his toughness under pressure
                                          Rnd 3 and New Undisputed Featherweight Champion of the World, Max Holloway
                                          Stepped the pace up and floored Aldo, then wanted to make a statement and gave up the submission attempt to continue to gound and pound until McCarthy called it

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