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  • ACT CrusaderA Offline
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    #598

    @Catogrande and every halfback that claps vigorously and yells half a metre from the opposition when a scrum penalty is given.....

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    @ACT-Crusader Absolutely and it's also time we went back to a simple hand-shake after scoring a try.

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    Lookout the fun police are here.

    I don't mind these interactions, adds a bit of colour to the game.

    My only couple of issues with Itoje was that a) he celebrated too early and now looks like a fool and b) he was playing for the star international team against a local franchise, I wouldn't like to see an AB do that in a mid-week game for example but in a big test I can see how the emotions would get the best of you.

    To quote the NFL's Raiders - just win baby.

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    @KiwiMurph said in Blues v BI Lions:

    Lookout the fun police are here.

    I don't mind these interactions, adds a bit of colour to the game.

    My only couple of issues with Itoje was that a) he celebrated too early and now looks like a fool and b) he was playing for the star international team against a local franchise, I wouldn't like to see an AB do that in a mid-week game for example but in a big test I can see how the emotions would get the best of you.

    To quote the NFL's Raiders - just win baby.

    I'd share a top quality meme about the fun police but I'd just end up getting banned.

    Again.

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    @gt12 said in Blues v BI Lions:

    On Itoe and the yelling, is it penalizable under 10.4 (m)? @Damo other refs?

    10.4
    (m) Acts contrary to good sportsmanship. A player must not do anything that is against the spirit of good sportsmanship in the playing enclosure.

    Sanction: Penalty kick

    Possibly, but a ref would be advised to tell the players he would do that prior to the game, otherwise it would be a bit too interventionist for my liking. If WR took a stand and issued a directive it would be different.

    I'm not a fan of the behaviour, but it's not up to referees to impose their preferences on the players.

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    @gt12 said in Blues v BI Lions:

    On Itoe and the yelling, is it penalizable under 10.4 (m)? @Damo other refs?

    10.4
    (m) Acts contrary to good sportsmanship. A player must not do anything that is against the spirit of good sportsmanship in the playing enclosure.

    Sanction: Penalty kick

    In extreme cases at school level I have seen this done. I was running touch in a game where one hooker would be screaming in the face of the throwing hooker every throw trying to put him off. I suggested that he stop doing it and when he didn't I pointed it out to the ref and left it in his hands. He watched it once and warned him then penalised him next time.

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    @MN5 said in Blues v BI Lions:

    @KiwiMurph said in Blues v BI Lions:

    Lookout the fun police are here.

    I don't mind these interactions, adds a bit of colour to the game.

    My only couple of issues with Itoje was that a) he celebrated too early and now looks like a fool and b) he was playing for the star international team against a local franchise, I wouldn't like to see an AB do that in a mid-week game for example but in a big test I can see how the emotions would get the best of you.

    To quote the NFL's Raiders - just win baby.

    I'd share a top quality meme about the fun police but I'd just end up getting banned.

    Again.

    Go on. You know you want to.

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    replied to Catogrande on last edited by
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    @Catogrande said in Blues v BI Lions:

    @MN5 said in Blues v BI Lions:

    @KiwiMurph said in Blues v BI Lions:

    Lookout the fun police are here.

    I don't mind these interactions, adds a bit of colour to the game.

    My only couple of issues with Itoje was that a) he celebrated too early and now looks like a fool and b) he was playing for the star international team against a local franchise, I wouldn't like to see an AB do that in a mid-week game for example but in a big test I can see how the emotions would get the best of you.

    To quote the NFL's Raiders - just win baby.

    I'd share a top quality meme about the fun police but I'd just end up getting banned.

    Again.

    Go on. You know you want to.

    Naaaa. @NTA or @jegga can take one for the team this time.

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  • gt12G Offline
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    replied to Crucial on last edited by
    #606

    @Crucial That's actually why I brought it up. I'm not commenting on the celebrating - I'm commenting on the yelling during the line out. I wondered if I'd be Ok with that at schoolboy level, and I'm sure I wouldn't be.

    @Damo Good call. I guess if it were seen to be a problem, then a directive could be issued.

    @therestofyoufuckers, I'm fun. I'm all about the fun. Ask my chess group.

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    @MN5 said in Blues v BI Lions:

    @Catogrande said in Blues v BI Lions:

    @MN5 said in Blues v BI Lions:

    @KiwiMurph said in Blues v BI Lions:

    Lookout the fun police are here.

    I don't mind these interactions, adds a bit of colour to the game.

    My only couple of issues with Itoje was that a) he celebrated too early and now looks like a fool and b) he was playing for the star international team against a local franchise, I wouldn't like to see an AB do that in a mid-week game for example but in a big test I can see how the emotions would get the best of you.

    To quote the NFL's Raiders - just win baby.

    I'd share a top quality meme about the fun police but I'd just end up getting banned.

    Again.

    Go on. You know you want to.

    Naaaa. @NTA or @jegga can take one for the team this time.

    Don't be daft.

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    replied to Crucial on last edited by
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    @Crucial Canes game shows DMac is not an option at 10.

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    @pakman The game where the Chiefs won with DMac at 10 for the entire second half against the AB incumbent? 😕

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    @pakman I'd give him more than 40 minutes per season before making that judgement ...

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    @pakman said in Blues v BI Lions:

    @Crucial Canes game shows DMac is not an option at 10.

    Not quite sure how you get to that conclusion. He moved there after an injury and the whole gameplan had to be adjusted on the spot. The Chiefs backs operate on the 2 first receivers (like the Canes tried tonight as well). When Cruden went off DMac had to play a conservative distributor role.

    I've never said he is an AB 10 but will have the chance to put himself in that crowded frame next season. I have watched him play at NPC level as a 10 and he controls a game nicely with time on the ball and good decisions. Let's see if he can step it up a grade.

    If he does we would have 4 quality 10s to choose from.

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    replied to Crucial on last edited by
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    @Crucial To expand a bit. IMO DMac isn't anything special at 10. Special in this context meaning AB quality. There isn't the space and he has to play accordingly. By way of contrast, at 15, either at the back or as a roving receiver, he is absolutely extraordinary. Given space and unstructured defences he ignites the Chiefs attack. A pleasure to behold.

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  • CrucialC Offline
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    @pakman said in Blues v BI Lions:

    @Crucial To expand a bit. IMO DMac isn't anything special at 10. Special in this context meaning AB quality. There isn't the space and he has to play accordingly. By way of contrast, at 15, either at the back or as a roving receiver, he is absolutely extraordinary. Given space and unstructured defences he ignites the Chiefs attack. A pleasure to behold.

    But what are you making this call based on?

    When I have seen him play 10 consistently he is very Cruden like. Takes the ball to the line, identifies gaps and space, has a better kicking game than Cruden.
    Cruden is AB quality. DMac needs to show he can do all of this at Super Level now as despite you and I thinking he has great quality at 15 the AB selectors obviously feel differently for test rugby. I think they have even stated that they see him as a potential 10.
    It will be a hard ask given that we have BB, Sopoaga and Mounga already proven BUT if you look slightly longer term versatility is gold when it comes to the RWC. Being able to carry 2 specialist 10s, a DMac AND a JB could be valuable.

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    replied to Crucial on last edited by
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    @Crucial He should look at halfback - woud be fantastic to have a kicking halfback with attacking skills as good as Perenara, but with a better pass...

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    replied to Bones on last edited by
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    @Bones Doesn't halfback require more robust defence than 10?

    Always thought that Orene Ai'i should've stuck with halfback. Could've been brilliant.

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    @Tim Very different type of defending for the most part.

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