BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?)
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@MiketheSnow said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):
@MN5 said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):
@MiketheSnow said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):
From a mate
Gatland's making it clear that any British person with a pulse or recently deceased in New Zealand will be a Lion before Mike Brown and Dylan Hartley. Magic.
Nel and either Gray brother should quite rightfully be spitting fucken tacks that there nobodies are in the squad before them.
Definitely on today's performance.
NOT!
You're assuming MN5 actually watches rugby?
@Bones said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):
@MiketheSnow said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):
@MN5 said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):
@MiketheSnow said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):
From a mate
Gatland's making it clear that any British person with a pulse or recently deceased in New Zealand will be a Lion before Mike Brown and Dylan Hartley. Magic.
Nel and either Gray brother should quite rightfully be spitting fucken tacks that there nobodies are in the squad before them.
Definitely on today's performance.
NOT!
You're assuming MN5 actually watches rugby?
Fuck off raghead. Don't ruin my buzz
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Here we go again
If Farrell is fit
1 - Vunipola
2 - Owens / George - can see either of these starting. I think George is better off the bench
3 - Furlong
4 - Kruis
5 - AWJ / Itoje - can see either of these starting. I think Itoje is better off the bench
6 - O'Mahoney - Captain if Warburton is on the bench
7 - Warburton / O'Brien - can see either of these starting. I think O'Brien is better off the bench
8 - Faletau
9 - Murray
10 - Farrell
11 - Daly - Won't happen, but North should be nowehere near the Test 23
12 - Te'o
13 - Davies
14 - Watson
15 - Halfpenny16 - George / Owens
17 - McGrath
18 - Sinckler
19 - Itoje /AWJ
20 - O'Brien / Warburton
21 - Webb
22 - Sexton
23 - Williams - not been great but covers wing and fullbackIf Farrell isn't fit, then Sexton to 10 and Biggar to bench instead of Williams
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Not going to be far off with that. For me you start the best players as you want them playing more of the game. No point being good off the bench if you are 20-30 points down when they come on. Know Eddie has had success with it with England but he starts Itoje and George only benches as Hartley is captain. The other 'finishers' for England are Sinckler and Te'o who are probably struggling for a start in front of Cole and Farrell.
George and Owens is actually pretty even for me saying that. You'd perhaps go George to keep the 2, 4, 5 club unit together at lineout time. Itoje is a better player than AWJ for me, so starts. Henderson was very good off the bench today, so will be interesting to see what Gatland does with the locks.
Agree re North, not the game he needed to cement his place and I would go Daly. Watson also quiet today, but he had little space to work with. Wouldn't be entirely surprised to see him spring a SOB, Warburton, Faletau back row, but we'll see.
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From this weekends game I would hope that we don't fan out to quickly after a ruck is formed. We can at times get caught with only A Smith defending behind the ruck and a couple of big boys powering through to get in behind us. I hope we take the Lions on up front the way we do when the Bok's and the English say they are going to smash us up front and starve us of the ball.
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This is what I think they'll go with for test one:
1 Moody
2 Taylor
3 Franks
4 Retallick
5 Whitelock
6 Kaino
7 Cane
8 Read
9 A Smith
10 B Barrett
11 J Savea
12 Crotty
13 ALB
14 Dagg
15 B Smith
16 Harris
17 Crockett
18 Faumuina
19 Romano
20 A Savea
21 TJP
22 Cruden
23 SBWIf Crotty is injured, then SBW starts with Rieko on the bench.
A Smith and TJP could be either way but I think TJP offers more from the bench.
Romano can cover lock/6 with Ardie to provide the usual impact that he does.
Cruden/SBW combo for the final 20 with B Barrett dropping to 15 and B Smith to the right wing.
@No-Quarter said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):
This is what I think they'll go with for test one:
1 Moody
2 Taylor
3 Franks
4 Retallick
5 Whitelock
6 Kaino
7 Cane
8 Read
9 A Smith
10 B Barrett
11 J Savea
12 Crotty
13 ALB
14 Dagg
15 B Smith
16 Harris
17 Crockett
18 Faumuina
19 Romano
20 A Savea
21 TJP
22 Cruden
23 SBWIt's pretty easy to pick an AB team, and I think what I chose above has just solidified following recent results.
Only change I'd make is SBW to start with Crotty on the bench due to Crotty's lack of game-time.
A Smith has done enough to warrant a start. As has J Savea.
Romano or Scott Barrett is the only other point of contention, but I think they've been keeping Romano on ice and will use him in test one due to his experience.
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I also prefer SBW to start. Problem with that is Crotty doesn't appear to offer much impact as a sub. Added to Cruden being unlikely to be used as tactical sub and that means bench becomes very injury focussed. Crotty/ALB suffers from lack of grunt, albeit wouldn't be such an issue if Farrell at 12.
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@No-Quarter said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):
This is what I think they'll go with for test one:
1 Moody
2 Taylor
3 Franks
4 Retallick
5 Whitelock
6 Kaino
7 Cane
8 Read
9 A Smith
10 B Barrett
11 J Savea
12 Crotty
13 ALB
14 Dagg
15 B Smith
16 Harris
17 Crockett
18 Faumuina
19 Romano
20 A Savea
21 TJP
22 Cruden
23 SBWIt's pretty easy to pick an AB team, and I think what I chose above has just solidified following recent results.
Only change I'd make is SBW to start with Crotty on the bench due to Crotty's lack of game-time.
A Smith has done enough to warrant a start. As has J Savea.
Romano or Scott Barrett is the only other point of contention, but I think they've been keeping Romano on ice and will use him in test one due to his experience.
@No-Quarter said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):
@No-Quarter said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):
This is what I think they'll go with for test one:
1 Moody
2 Taylor
3 Franks
4 Retallick
5 Whitelock
6 Kaino
7 Cane
8 Read
9 A Smith
10 B Barrett
11 J Savea
12 Crotty
13 ALB
14 Dagg
15 B Smith
16 Harris
17 Crockett
18 Faumuina
19 Romano
20 A Savea
21 TJP
22 Cruden
23 SBWIt's pretty easy to pick an AB team, and I think what I chose above has just solidified following recent results.
Only change I'd make is SBW to start with Crotty on the bench due to Crotty's lack of game-time.
A Smith has done enough to warrant a start. As has J Savea.
Romano or Scott Barrett is the only other point of contention, but I think they've been keeping Romano on ice and will use him in test one due to his experience.
What are the strengths/weaknesses of Barrett vs Romano?
I'm asking for a friend who doesnt know rugby that well.
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@No-Quarter said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):
@No-Quarter said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):
This is what I think they'll go with for test one:
1 Moody
2 Taylor
3 Franks
4 Retallick
5 Whitelock
6 Kaino
7 Cane
8 Read
9 A Smith
10 B Barrett
11 J Savea
12 Crotty
13 ALB
14 Dagg
15 B Smith
16 Harris
17 Crockett
18 Faumuina
19 Romano
20 A Savea
21 TJP
22 Cruden
23 SBWIt's pretty easy to pick an AB team, and I think what I chose above has just solidified following recent results.
Only change I'd make is SBW to start with Crotty on the bench due to Crotty's lack of game-time.
A Smith has done enough to warrant a start. As has J Savea.
Romano or Scott Barrett is the only other point of contention, but I think they've been keeping Romano on ice and will use him in test one due to his experience.
What are the strengths/weaknesses of Barrett vs Romano?
I'm asking for a friend who doesnt know rugby that well.
@MN5 one of Scotts weaknesses is that he isn't as fast as Beaudie or Jordie
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@MN5 one of Scotts weaknesses is that he isn't as fast as Beaudie or Jordie
@taniwharugby said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):
@MN5 one of Scotts weaknesses is that he isn't as fast as Beaudie or Jordie
Unless it's a race to the dinner table
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@No-Quarter said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):
@No-Quarter said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):
This is what I think they'll go with for test one:
1 Moody
2 Taylor
3 Franks
4 Retallick
5 Whitelock
6 Kaino
7 Cane
8 Read
9 A Smith
10 B Barrett
11 J Savea
12 Crotty
13 ALB
14 Dagg
15 B Smith
16 Harris
17 Crockett
18 Faumuina
19 Romano
20 A Savea
21 TJP
22 Cruden
23 SBWIt's pretty easy to pick an AB team, and I think what I chose above has just solidified following recent results.
Only change I'd make is SBW to start with Crotty on the bench due to Crotty's lack of game-time.
A Smith has done enough to warrant a start. As has J Savea.
Romano or Scott Barrett is the only other point of contention, but I think they've been keeping Romano on ice and will use him in test one due to his experience.
What are the strengths/weaknesses of Barrett vs Romano?
I'm asking for a friend who doesnt know rugby that well.
@MN5 said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):
@No-Quarter said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):
@No-Quarter said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):
This is what I think they'll go with for test one:
1 Moody
2 Taylor
3 Franks
4 Retallick
5 Whitelock
6 Kaino
7 Cane
8 Read
9 A Smith
10 B Barrett
11 J Savea
12 Crotty
13 ALB
14 Dagg
15 B Smith
16 Harris
17 Crockett
18 Faumuina
19 Romano
20 A Savea
21 TJP
22 Cruden
23 SBWIt's pretty easy to pick an AB team, and I think what I chose above has just solidified following recent results.
Only change I'd make is SBW to start with Crotty on the bench due to Crotty's lack of game-time.
A Smith has done enough to warrant a start. As has J Savea.
Romano or Scott Barrett is the only other point of contention, but I think they've been keeping Romano on ice and will use him in test one due to his experience.
What are the strengths/weaknesses of Barrett vs Romano?
I'm asking for a friend who doesnt know rugby that well.
Hah, Barrett has a better all-round game but doesn't bring quite the same physicality as Romano, which is why I'd go Romano as a bench option for impact, as well as experience.
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@MN5 one of Scotts weaknesses is that he isn't as fast as Beaudie or Jordie
@taniwharugby said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):
@MN5 one of Scotts weaknesses is that he isn't as fast as Beaudie or Jordie
True. But apparently Scott the better mile runner, so an endurance man.
I'd go Romano first up. He's been a very good off the bench option this year. But either way you're getting a good lock.
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here we go!!
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I also prefer SBW to start. Problem with that is Crotty doesn't appear to offer much impact as a sub. Added to Cruden being unlikely to be used as tactical sub and that means bench becomes very injury focussed. Crotty/ALB suffers from lack of grunt, albeit wouldn't be such an issue if Farrell at 12.
@pakman said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):
I also prefer SBW to start. Problem with that is Crotty doesn't appear to offer much impact as a sub. Added to Cruden being unlikely to be used as tactical sub and that means bench becomes very injury focussed. Crotty/ALB suffers from lack of grunt, albeit wouldn't be such an issue if Farrell at 12.
Not sure Crotty/ALB lacks grunt. They both play very direct and bring defenders with them. One criticism of Sonny is that he does go lateral from time to time trying to set something up that may not be there.
Crotty the best defensive midfielder we have so in arm wrestle type games he's made for that.
I think they go with the same starting lineup that played Manu with Read coming in.
Crotty on the bench with A. Savea
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@taniwharugby said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):
@MN5 one of Scotts weaknesses is that he isn't as fast as Beaudie or Jordie
True. But apparently Scott the better mile runner, so an endurance man.
I'd go Romano first up. He's been a very good off the bench option this year. But either way you're getting a good lock.
@ACT-Crusader said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):
@taniwharugby said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):
@MN5 one of Scotts weaknesses is that he isn't as fast as Beaudie or Jordie
True. But apparently Scott the better mile runner, so an endurance man.
I'd go Romano first up. He's been a very good off the bench option this year. But either way you're getting a good lock.
Romano failed his audition in the Crusaders game. Meanwhile Barrett nailed his vs Samoa. I'll be surprised to see Romano on the bench.
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@taniwharugby said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):
here we go!!
Was wondering why nobody had mentioned this so put it in the other thread... oops ...
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@ACT-Crusader said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):
@taniwharugby said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):
@MN5 one of Scotts weaknesses is that he isn't as fast as Beaudie or Jordie
True. But apparently Scott the better mile runner, so an endurance man.
I'd go Romano first up. He's been a very good off the bench option this year. But either way you're getting a good lock.
Romano failed his audition in the Crusaders game. Meanwhile Barrett nailed his vs Samoa. I'll be surprised to see Romano on the bench.
@Billy-Tell said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):
@ACT-Crusader said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):
@taniwharugby said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):
@MN5 one of Scotts weaknesses is that he isn't as fast as Beaudie or Jordie
True. But apparently Scott the better mile runner, so an endurance man.
I'd go Romano first up. He's been a very good off the bench option this year. But either way you're getting a good lock.
Romano failed his audition in the Crusaders game. Meanwhile Barrett nailed his vs Samoa. I'll be surprised to see Romano on the bench.
I doubt a cameo from the bench against a Samoan side being torn to shreds will put Barrett ahead of Romano. He may already be ahead... but I think given Romano has been in good form, is more physical, and has experience, I'd be surprised if he was overlooked.
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@MN5 said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):
@No-Quarter said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):
@No-Quarter said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):
This is what I think they'll go with for test one:
1 Moody
2 Taylor
3 Franks
4 Retallick
5 Whitelock
6 Kaino
7 Cane
8 Read
9 A Smith
10 B Barrett
11 J Savea
12 Crotty
13 ALB
14 Dagg
15 B Smith
16 Harris
17 Crockett
18 Faumuina
19 Romano
20 A Savea
21 TJP
22 Cruden
23 SBWIt's pretty easy to pick an AB team, and I think what I chose above has just solidified following recent results.
Only change I'd make is SBW to start with Crotty on the bench due to Crotty's lack of game-time.
A Smith has done enough to warrant a start. As has J Savea.
Romano or Scott Barrett is the only other point of contention, but I think they've been keeping Romano on ice and will use him in test one due to his experience.
What are the strengths/weaknesses of Barrett vs Romano?
I'm asking for a friend who doesnt know rugby that well.
Hah, Barrett has a better all-round game but doesn't bring quite the same physicality as Romano, which is why I'd go Romano as a bench option for impact, as well as experience.
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@KiwiMurph Thats why PT would be better unless I missed something and he is injured or just overlooked.
