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BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?)

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    Wreck Diver
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    From this weekends game I would hope that we don't fan out to quickly after a ruck is formed. We can at times get caught with only A Smith defending behind the ruck and a couple of big boys powering through to get in behind us. I hope we take the Lions on up front the way we do when the Bok's and the English say they are going to smash us up front and starve us of the ball.

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    • No QuarterN No Quarter

      This is what I think they'll go with for test one:

      1 Moody
      2 Taylor
      3 Franks
      4 Retallick
      5 Whitelock
      6 Kaino
      7 Cane
      8 Read
      9 A Smith
      10 B Barrett
      11 J Savea
      12 Crotty
      13 ALB
      14 Dagg
      15 B Smith
      16 Harris
      17 Crockett
      18 Faumuina
      19 Romano
      20 A Savea
      21 TJP
      22 Cruden
      23 SBW

      If Crotty is injured, then SBW starts with Rieko on the bench.

      A Smith and TJP could be either way but I think TJP offers more from the bench.

      Romano can cover lock/6 with Ardie to provide the usual impact that he does.

      Cruden/SBW combo for the final 20 with B Barrett dropping to 15 and B Smith to the right wing.

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      @No-Quarter said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):

      This is what I think they'll go with for test one:

      1 Moody
      2 Taylor
      3 Franks
      4 Retallick
      5 Whitelock
      6 Kaino
      7 Cane
      8 Read
      9 A Smith
      10 B Barrett
      11 J Savea
      12 Crotty
      13 ALB
      14 Dagg
      15 B Smith
      16 Harris
      17 Crockett
      18 Faumuina
      19 Romano
      20 A Savea
      21 TJP
      22 Cruden
      23 SBW

      It's pretty easy to pick an AB team, and I think what I chose above has just solidified following recent results.

      Only change I'd make is SBW to start with Crotty on the bench due to Crotty's lack of game-time.

      A Smith has done enough to warrant a start. As has J Savea.

      Romano or Scott Barrett is the only other point of contention, but I think they've been keeping Romano on ice and will use him in test one due to his experience.

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        I also prefer SBW to start. Problem with that is Crotty doesn't appear to offer much impact as a sub. Added to Cruden being unlikely to be used as tactical sub and that means bench becomes very injury focussed. Crotty/ALB suffers from lack of grunt, albeit wouldn't be such an issue if Farrell at 12.

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        • No QuarterN No Quarter

          @No-Quarter said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):

          This is what I think they'll go with for test one:

          1 Moody
          2 Taylor
          3 Franks
          4 Retallick
          5 Whitelock
          6 Kaino
          7 Cane
          8 Read
          9 A Smith
          10 B Barrett
          11 J Savea
          12 Crotty
          13 ALB
          14 Dagg
          15 B Smith
          16 Harris
          17 Crockett
          18 Faumuina
          19 Romano
          20 A Savea
          21 TJP
          22 Cruden
          23 SBW

          It's pretty easy to pick an AB team, and I think what I chose above has just solidified following recent results.

          Only change I'd make is SBW to start with Crotty on the bench due to Crotty's lack of game-time.

          A Smith has done enough to warrant a start. As has J Savea.

          Romano or Scott Barrett is the only other point of contention, but I think they've been keeping Romano on ice and will use him in test one due to his experience.

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          MN5
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          @No-Quarter said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):

          @No-Quarter said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):

          This is what I think they'll go with for test one:

          1 Moody
          2 Taylor
          3 Franks
          4 Retallick
          5 Whitelock
          6 Kaino
          7 Cane
          8 Read
          9 A Smith
          10 B Barrett
          11 J Savea
          12 Crotty
          13 ALB
          14 Dagg
          15 B Smith
          16 Harris
          17 Crockett
          18 Faumuina
          19 Romano
          20 A Savea
          21 TJP
          22 Cruden
          23 SBW

          It's pretty easy to pick an AB team, and I think what I chose above has just solidified following recent results.

          Only change I'd make is SBW to start with Crotty on the bench due to Crotty's lack of game-time.

          A Smith has done enough to warrant a start. As has J Savea.

          Romano or Scott Barrett is the only other point of contention, but I think they've been keeping Romano on ice and will use him in test one due to his experience.

          What are the strengths/weaknesses of Barrett vs Romano?

          I'm asking for a friend who doesnt know rugby that well.

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          • MN5M MN5

            @No-Quarter said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):

            @No-Quarter said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):

            This is what I think they'll go with for test one:

            1 Moody
            2 Taylor
            3 Franks
            4 Retallick
            5 Whitelock
            6 Kaino
            7 Cane
            8 Read
            9 A Smith
            10 B Barrett
            11 J Savea
            12 Crotty
            13 ALB
            14 Dagg
            15 B Smith
            16 Harris
            17 Crockett
            18 Faumuina
            19 Romano
            20 A Savea
            21 TJP
            22 Cruden
            23 SBW

            It's pretty easy to pick an AB team, and I think what I chose above has just solidified following recent results.

            Only change I'd make is SBW to start with Crotty on the bench due to Crotty's lack of game-time.

            A Smith has done enough to warrant a start. As has J Savea.

            Romano or Scott Barrett is the only other point of contention, but I think they've been keeping Romano on ice and will use him in test one due to his experience.

            What are the strengths/weaknesses of Barrett vs Romano?

            I'm asking for a friend who doesnt know rugby that well.

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            taniwharugby
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            @MN5 one of Scotts weaknesses is that he isn't as fast as Beaudie or Jordie

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            • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

              @MN5 one of Scotts weaknesses is that he isn't as fast as Beaudie or Jordie

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              @taniwharugby said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):

              @MN5 one of Scotts weaknesses is that he isn't as fast as Beaudie or Jordie

              Unless it's a race to the dinner table

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              • MN5M MN5

                @No-Quarter said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):

                @No-Quarter said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):

                This is what I think they'll go with for test one:

                1 Moody
                2 Taylor
                3 Franks
                4 Retallick
                5 Whitelock
                6 Kaino
                7 Cane
                8 Read
                9 A Smith
                10 B Barrett
                11 J Savea
                12 Crotty
                13 ALB
                14 Dagg
                15 B Smith
                16 Harris
                17 Crockett
                18 Faumuina
                19 Romano
                20 A Savea
                21 TJP
                22 Cruden
                23 SBW

                It's pretty easy to pick an AB team, and I think what I chose above has just solidified following recent results.

                Only change I'd make is SBW to start with Crotty on the bench due to Crotty's lack of game-time.

                A Smith has done enough to warrant a start. As has J Savea.

                Romano or Scott Barrett is the only other point of contention, but I think they've been keeping Romano on ice and will use him in test one due to his experience.

                What are the strengths/weaknesses of Barrett vs Romano?

                I'm asking for a friend who doesnt know rugby that well.

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                No Quarter
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                #70

                @MN5 said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):

                @No-Quarter said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):

                @No-Quarter said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):

                This is what I think they'll go with for test one:

                1 Moody
                2 Taylor
                3 Franks
                4 Retallick
                5 Whitelock
                6 Kaino
                7 Cane
                8 Read
                9 A Smith
                10 B Barrett
                11 J Savea
                12 Crotty
                13 ALB
                14 Dagg
                15 B Smith
                16 Harris
                17 Crockett
                18 Faumuina
                19 Romano
                20 A Savea
                21 TJP
                22 Cruden
                23 SBW

                It's pretty easy to pick an AB team, and I think what I chose above has just solidified following recent results.

                Only change I'd make is SBW to start with Crotty on the bench due to Crotty's lack of game-time.

                A Smith has done enough to warrant a start. As has J Savea.

                Romano or Scott Barrett is the only other point of contention, but I think they've been keeping Romano on ice and will use him in test one due to his experience.

                What are the strengths/weaknesses of Barrett vs Romano?

                I'm asking for a friend who doesnt know rugby that well.

                Hah, Barrett has a better all-round game but doesn't bring quite the same physicality as Romano, which is why I'd go Romano as a bench option for impact, as well as experience.

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                • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                  @MN5 one of Scotts weaknesses is that he isn't as fast as Beaudie or Jordie

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                  @taniwharugby said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):

                  @MN5 one of Scotts weaknesses is that he isn't as fast as Beaudie or Jordie

                  True. But apparently Scott the better mile runner, so an endurance man.

                  I'd go Romano first up. He's been a very good off the bench option this year. But either way you're getting a good lock.

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                    taniwharugby
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                    #72

                    here we go!!

                    http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/93830116/lions-tour-warren-gatland-accuses-all-blacks-of-dodgy-blocking-tactics

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                      taniwharugby
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                      wow, current odds at TAB:

                      ABs $1.16
                      Lions $4.75

                      I'd move ABs out to about $1.45 and bring Lions down to about $2.00.

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                      • P pakman

                        I also prefer SBW to start. Problem with that is Crotty doesn't appear to offer much impact as a sub. Added to Cruden being unlikely to be used as tactical sub and that means bench becomes very injury focussed. Crotty/ALB suffers from lack of grunt, albeit wouldn't be such an issue if Farrell at 12.

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                        @pakman said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):

                        I also prefer SBW to start. Problem with that is Crotty doesn't appear to offer much impact as a sub. Added to Cruden being unlikely to be used as tactical sub and that means bench becomes very injury focussed. Crotty/ALB suffers from lack of grunt, albeit wouldn't be such an issue if Farrell at 12.

                        Not sure Crotty/ALB lacks grunt. They both play very direct and bring defenders with them. One criticism of Sonny is that he does go lateral from time to time trying to set something up that may not be there.

                        Crotty the best defensive midfielder we have so in arm wrestle type games he's made for that.

                        I think they go with the same starting lineup that played Manu with Read coming in.

                        Crotty on the bench with A. Savea

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                        • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                          @taniwharugby said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):

                          @MN5 one of Scotts weaknesses is that he isn't as fast as Beaudie or Jordie

                          True. But apparently Scott the better mile runner, so an endurance man.

                          I'd go Romano first up. He's been a very good off the bench option this year. But either way you're getting a good lock.

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                          Billy Tell
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                          @ACT-Crusader said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):

                          @taniwharugby said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):

                          @MN5 one of Scotts weaknesses is that he isn't as fast as Beaudie or Jordie

                          True. But apparently Scott the better mile runner, so an endurance man.

                          I'd go Romano first up. He's been a very good off the bench option this year. But either way you're getting a good lock.

                          Romano failed his audition in the Crusaders game. Meanwhile Barrett nailed his vs Samoa. I'll be surprised to see Romano on the bench.

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                          • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                            here we go!!

                            http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/93830116/lions-tour-warren-gatland-accuses-all-blacks-of-dodgy-blocking-tactics

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                            @taniwharugby said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):

                            here we go!!

                            http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/93830116/lions-tour-warren-gatland-accuses-all-blacks-of-dodgy-blocking-tactics

                            Was wondering why nobody had mentioned this so put it in the other thread... oops ...

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                            • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                              @ACT-Crusader said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):

                              @taniwharugby said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):

                              @MN5 one of Scotts weaknesses is that he isn't as fast as Beaudie or Jordie

                              True. But apparently Scott the better mile runner, so an endurance man.

                              I'd go Romano first up. He's been a very good off the bench option this year. But either way you're getting a good lock.

                              Romano failed his audition in the Crusaders game. Meanwhile Barrett nailed his vs Samoa. I'll be surprised to see Romano on the bench.

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                              No Quarter
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                              @Billy-Tell said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):

                              @ACT-Crusader said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):

                              @taniwharugby said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):

                              @MN5 one of Scotts weaknesses is that he isn't as fast as Beaudie or Jordie

                              True. But apparently Scott the better mile runner, so an endurance man.

                              I'd go Romano first up. He's been a very good off the bench option this year. But either way you're getting a good lock.

                              Romano failed his audition in the Crusaders game. Meanwhile Barrett nailed his vs Samoa. I'll be surprised to see Romano on the bench.

                              I doubt a cameo from the bench against a Samoan side being torn to shreds will put Barrett ahead of Romano. He may already be ahead... but I think given Romano has been in good form, is more physical, and has experience, I'd be surprised if he was overlooked.

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                              • No QuarterN No Quarter

                                @MN5 said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):

                                @No-Quarter said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):

                                @No-Quarter said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):

                                This is what I think they'll go with for test one:

                                1 Moody
                                2 Taylor
                                3 Franks
                                4 Retallick
                                5 Whitelock
                                6 Kaino
                                7 Cane
                                8 Read
                                9 A Smith
                                10 B Barrett
                                11 J Savea
                                12 Crotty
                                13 ALB
                                14 Dagg
                                15 B Smith
                                16 Harris
                                17 Crockett
                                18 Faumuina
                                19 Romano
                                20 A Savea
                                21 TJP
                                22 Cruden
                                23 SBW

                                It's pretty easy to pick an AB team, and I think what I chose above has just solidified following recent results.

                                Only change I'd make is SBW to start with Crotty on the bench due to Crotty's lack of game-time.

                                A Smith has done enough to warrant a start. As has J Savea.

                                Romano or Scott Barrett is the only other point of contention, but I think they've been keeping Romano on ice and will use him in test one due to his experience.

                                What are the strengths/weaknesses of Barrett vs Romano?

                                I'm asking for a friend who doesnt know rugby that well.

                                Hah, Barrett has a better all-round game but doesn't bring quite the same physicality as Romano, which is why I'd go Romano as a bench option for impact, as well as experience.

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                                @KiwiMurph Thats why PT would be better unless I missed something and he is injured or just overlooked.

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                                • broughieB broughie

                                  @KiwiMurph Thats why PT would be better unless I missed something and he is injured or just overlooked.

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                                  @broughie or just not in pickable form and not endearing himself to selectors.

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                                  • No QuarterN No Quarter

                                    @Billy-Tell said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):

                                    @ACT-Crusader said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):

                                    @taniwharugby said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):

                                    @MN5 one of Scotts weaknesses is that he isn't as fast as Beaudie or Jordie

                                    True. But apparently Scott the better mile runner, so an endurance man.

                                    I'd go Romano first up. He's been a very good off the bench option this year. But either way you're getting a good lock.

                                    Romano failed his audition in the Crusaders game. Meanwhile Barrett nailed his vs Samoa. I'll be surprised to see Romano on the bench.

                                    I doubt a cameo from the bench against a Samoan side being torn to shreds will put Barrett ahead of Romano. He may already be ahead... but I think given Romano has been in good form, is more physical, and has experience, I'd be surprised if he was overlooked.

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                                    @No-Quarter I just hope that Romano has been practicing his kick off takes. Because in the Crusaders game the 2 kick offs that came their way he butchered the catch.

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                                      Just seen a long rang forecast for Saturday and there is a 3% chance of rain. This is a question for Aucklander's has Eden Park been slippery when dry due to a night due?

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                                        Oh FFS, quit the worrying about the weather. If the ABs can't beat these guys in all conditions then that's how it goes.
                                        IMO if it pisses down they should watch the 96 Athletic Park game and see how to do it.

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                                          I do hope that when Gats has his referees chat about the dastardly blocking tactics he promises his defensive line will stay onside.

                                          When you consider the effect on the game of D lines that get even 6 inches head start you wonder why refs teams don't take a different approach. All they have to do is tell teams they have to be clearly and obviously onside to avoid the whistle rather than clearly and obviously offside to get one. Make things difficult for the AR and you get a warning to keep well onside or penalties will be blown.

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