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BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?)

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    @Bones said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):

    X factor? It's getting a bit weird here where people have completely blanked Crottys play the last year or two. The guy creates plenty of space in the midfield with guile and isn't exactly incapable of making yards up the middle. Plus his combo with ALB was fantastic for the ABs.

    I only have SBW starting as he has fitness and form in the last two matches, whereas Crotty is coming back from an (admittedly) short-term injury, but an injury nonetheless. I had Crotty starting originally but I think SBW has done enough to warrant a start. I want Crotty on the bench though.

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    @No-Quarter said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):

    @Bones said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):

    X factor? It's getting a bit weird here where people have completely blanked Crottys play the last year or two. The guy creates plenty of space in the midfield with guile and isn't exactly incapable of making yards up the middle. Plus his combo with ALB was fantastic for the ABs.

    I only have SBW starting as he has fitness and form in the last two matches, whereas Crotty is coming back from an (admittedly) short-term injury, but an injury nonetheless. I had Crotty starting originally but I think SBW has done enough to warrant a start. I want Crotty on the bench though.

    Pretty sure the selectors have made it clear they prefer returning incumbents to start, where they're less of a liability than off the bench.

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      I'm not sure why things have swung to the point where we are starting with the BI impregnable rush defence & box kicking and working back from there?

      Even if their plan is relatively successful it is still a bit of a high wire act that relies on total accuracy off the boot, in the chase and off the line. A big difference between '08 Boks and this lot is the Lions don't own the lineout so NZ will always have a release valve even if everything is custard.

      Speaking of custard - if the rush defence does prove to be an issue - Hansen will have up his sleeve the ability to push Barrett back to 15 in the second half circa 2014-15 to create space. SBW poses his own unique challenges for the rush as we saw in the RWC final.

      Is there a read on Cruden vs Sopoaga off the bench? Seems to be Lima based on last week - but you would think Cruden would have been released if third banana?

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        I'm not sure why things have swung to the point where we are starting with the BI impregnable rush defence & box kicking and working back from there?

        Even if their plan is relatively successful it is still a bit of a high wire act that relies on total accuracy off the boot, in the chase and off the line. A big difference between '08 Boks and this lot is the Lions don't own the lineout so NZ will always have a release valve even if everything is custard.

        Speaking of custard - if the rush defence does prove to be an issue - Hansen will have up his sleeve the ability to push Barrett back to 15 in the second half circa 2014-15 to create space. SBW poses his own unique challenges for the rush as we saw in the RWC final.

        Is there a read on Cruden vs Sopoaga off the bench? Seems to be Lima based on last week - but you would think Cruden would have been released if third banana?

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        @rotated IIRC Cruden wasn't available last week due to injury.

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          @rotated IIRC Cruden wasn't available last week due to injury.

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          @Nepia said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):

          @rotated IIRC Cruden wasn't available last week due to injury.

          I see, do you think he comes onto the bench or has Lima done enough?

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            @Nepia said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):

            @rotated IIRC Cruden wasn't available last week due to injury.

            I see, do you think he comes onto the bench or has Lima done enough?

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            @rotated If over his injury I expect he comes on to the bench, he's been there done that with the ABs - and if they weren't going to use him they probably wouldn't have selected him as he's off overseas.

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              Reiko left wing. Crotty 13. ALB bench.

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                Yelden reckons it's going to be a Crotty/SBW midfield.

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                @akan004 said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):

                Yelden reckons it's going to be a Crotty/SBW midfield.

                I remember the day before the WC squad was announced , he picked Naholo and NMS in and Dagg and Piutau out , was the only one that got it , from that day I always take notice of his selections .

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                  Cruden in doubt apparently , has been bracketed with Lima, decision made today .

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                    Could someone explain to me how Anton the Great did not make the starting team?

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                    • TordahT Tordah

                      Could someone explain to me how Anton the Great did not make the starting team?

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                      @Tordah said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):

                      Could someone explain to me how Anton the Great did not make the starting team?

                      Because Crotty has been the best and most consistent midfielder in super rugby this year.

                      ALB was great against a shit Samoa team but hasn't been so good for the Chiefs this year.

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                        All players In the 23 will play their part anyway, I don't see someone like alb as dropped so much , Julians a different story

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                        • SammyCS SammyC

                          @Tordah said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):

                          Could someone explain to me how Anton the Great did not make the starting team?

                          Because Crotty has been the best and most consistent midfielder in super rugby this year.

                          ALB was great against a shit Samoa team but hasn't been so good for the Chiefs this year.

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                            @mariner4life said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):

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                            ALB admitted himself in an interview recently that his form hasn't been the best this year. Think it was when he was all over the NZ Herald modelling the new jersey.

                            A bit easier to look good against Samoa when you're lining up against Kieren Fonotia (he made Matt Faddes look like a superstar when we played the highlanders last year).

                            Anyway, personally I like Crotty/LB.... Sonny Bill made a couple of bad defensive plays last week, although he was bloody good in that Blues game.

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                              @mariner4life said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):

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                              ALB admitted himself in an interview recently that his form hasn't been the best this year. Think it was when he was all over the NZ Herald modelling the new jersey.

                              A bit easier to look good against Samoa when you're lining up against Kieren Fonotia (he made Matt Faddes look like a superstar when we played the highlanders last year).

                              Anyway, personally I like Crotty/LB.... Sonny Bill made a couple of bad defensive plays last week, although he was bloody good in that Blues game.

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                              @SammyC well, he was just being modest about his rugby. Which, according to the other thread, is against everything we stand for. So probably right to demote him for whatever is slightly less than treason.

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                                @Tordah said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):

                                Could someone explain to me how Anton the Great did not make the starting team?

                                Because Crotty has been the best and most consistent midfielder in super rugby this year.

                                ALB was great against a shit Samoa team but hasn't been so good for the Chiefs this year.

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                                @SammyC said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):

                                @Tordah said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):

                                Could someone explain to me how Anton the Great did not make the starting team?

                                Because Crotty has been the best and most consistent midfielder in super rugby this year.

                                ALB was great against a shit Samoa team but hasn't been so good for the Chiefs this year.

                                I'm happy with Crotty, but think it should have been Crotty instead of SBW.

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                                  @mariner4life said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):

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                                  ALB admitted himself in an interview recently that his form hasn't been the best this year. Think it was when he was all over the NZ Herald modelling the new jersey.

                                  A bit easier to look good against Samoa when you're lining up against Kieren Fonotia (he made Matt Faddes look like a superstar when we played the highlanders last year).

                                  Anyway, personally I like Crotty/LB.... Sonny Bill made a couple of bad defensive plays last week, although he was bloody good in that Blues game.

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                                  @SammyC said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):

                                  @mariner4life said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):

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                                  ALB admitted himself in an interview recently that his form hasn't been the best this year. Think it was when he was all over the NZ Herald modelling the new jersey.

                                  A bit easier to look good against Samoa when you're lining up against Kieren Fonotia (he made Matt Faddes look like a superstar when we played the highlanders last year).

                                  Anyway, personally I like Crotty/LB.... Sonny Bill made a couple of bad defensive plays last week, although he was bloody good in that Blues game.

                                  You are missing part of the timeline. ALB started hitting his straps just after that and has had a number of very good games in a row.
                                  I would have thought a Crotty/ALB as well but I don't know the playing structures the coaches have planned

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                                    If anyone has access to this article, can you please post it here? I'm really keen to read this.

                                    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2017/06/21/exclusive-interview-making-beauden-barrett-blacks-star-worlds/

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                                      If anyone has access to this article, can you please post it here? I'm really keen to read this.

                                      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2017/06/21/exclusive-interview-making-beauden-barrett-blacks-star-worlds/

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                                      @Stargazer said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):

                                      If anyone has access to this article, can you please post it here? I'm really keen to read this.

                                      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2017/06/21/exclusive-interview-making-beauden-barrett-blacks-star-worlds/

                                      Read this one while you're waiting 🙂
                                      http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/93970218/lions-tour-how-beauden-barrett-learned-to-play-barefooted

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                                      • nzzpN nzzp

                                        @Stargazer said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):

                                        If anyone has access to this article, can you please post it here? I'm really keen to read this.

                                        http://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2017/06/21/exclusive-interview-making-beauden-barrett-blacks-star-worlds/

                                        Read this one while you're waiting 🙂
                                        http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/93970218/lions-tour-how-beauden-barrett-learned-to-play-barefooted

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                                        @nzzp Lol, thanks!

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                                        • nzzpN nzzp

                                          @Stargazer said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):

                                          If anyone has access to this article, can you please post it here? I'm really keen to read this.

                                          http://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2017/06/21/exclusive-interview-making-beauden-barrett-blacks-star-worlds/

                                          Read this one while you're waiting 🙂
                                          http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/93970218/lions-tour-how-beauden-barrett-learned-to-play-barefooted

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                                          @nzzp GOAT and Beaudy both ran as kids to become better players. The correlation is undeniable.

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