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BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?)

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  • rotatedR rotated

    I'm not sure why things have swung to the point where we are starting with the BI impregnable rush defence & box kicking and working back from there?

    Even if their plan is relatively successful it is still a bit of a high wire act that relies on total accuracy off the boot, in the chase and off the line. A big difference between '08 Boks and this lot is the Lions don't own the lineout so NZ will always have a release valve even if everything is custard.

    Speaking of custard - if the rush defence does prove to be an issue - Hansen will have up his sleeve the ability to push Barrett back to 15 in the second half circa 2014-15 to create space. SBW poses his own unique challenges for the rush as we saw in the RWC final.

    Is there a read on Cruden vs Sopoaga off the bench? Seems to be Lima based on last week - but you would think Cruden would have been released if third banana?

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    @rotated IIRC Cruden wasn't available last week due to injury.

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      @rotated IIRC Cruden wasn't available last week due to injury.

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      @Nepia said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):

      @rotated IIRC Cruden wasn't available last week due to injury.

      I see, do you think he comes onto the bench or has Lima done enough?

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        @Nepia said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):

        @rotated IIRC Cruden wasn't available last week due to injury.

        I see, do you think he comes onto the bench or has Lima done enough?

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        @rotated If over his injury I expect he comes on to the bench, he's been there done that with the ABs - and if they weren't going to use him they probably wouldn't have selected him as he's off overseas.

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          Reiko left wing. Crotty 13. ALB bench.

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            Yelden reckons it's going to be a Crotty/SBW midfield.

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            @akan004 said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):

            Yelden reckons it's going to be a Crotty/SBW midfield.

            I remember the day before the WC squad was announced , he picked Naholo and NMS in and Dagg and Piutau out , was the only one that got it , from that day I always take notice of his selections .

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              Cruden in doubt apparently , has been bracketed with Lima, decision made today .

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                Could someone explain to me how Anton the Great did not make the starting team?

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                • TordahT Tordah

                  Could someone explain to me how Anton the Great did not make the starting team?

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                  @Tordah said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):

                  Could someone explain to me how Anton the Great did not make the starting team?

                  Because Crotty has been the best and most consistent midfielder in super rugby this year.

                  ALB was great against a shit Samoa team but hasn't been so good for the Chiefs this year.

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                    All players In the 23 will play their part anyway, I don't see someone like alb as dropped so much , Julians a different story

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                    • SammyCS SammyC

                      @Tordah said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):

                      Could someone explain to me how Anton the Great did not make the starting team?

                      Because Crotty has been the best and most consistent midfielder in super rugby this year.

                      ALB was great against a shit Samoa team but hasn't been so good for the Chiefs this year.

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                        @mariner4life said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):

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                        ALB admitted himself in an interview recently that his form hasn't been the best this year. Think it was when he was all over the NZ Herald modelling the new jersey.

                        A bit easier to look good against Samoa when you're lining up against Kieren Fonotia (he made Matt Faddes look like a superstar when we played the highlanders last year).

                        Anyway, personally I like Crotty/LB.... Sonny Bill made a couple of bad defensive plays last week, although he was bloody good in that Blues game.

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                        • SammyCS SammyC

                          @mariner4life said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):

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                          ALB admitted himself in an interview recently that his form hasn't been the best this year. Think it was when he was all over the NZ Herald modelling the new jersey.

                          A bit easier to look good against Samoa when you're lining up against Kieren Fonotia (he made Matt Faddes look like a superstar when we played the highlanders last year).

                          Anyway, personally I like Crotty/LB.... Sonny Bill made a couple of bad defensive plays last week, although he was bloody good in that Blues game.

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                          @SammyC well, he was just being modest about his rugby. Which, according to the other thread, is against everything we stand for. So probably right to demote him for whatever is slightly less than treason.

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                          • SammyCS SammyC

                            @Tordah said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):

                            Could someone explain to me how Anton the Great did not make the starting team?

                            Because Crotty has been the best and most consistent midfielder in super rugby this year.

                            ALB was great against a shit Samoa team but hasn't been so good for the Chiefs this year.

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                            @SammyC said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):

                            @Tordah said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):

                            Could someone explain to me how Anton the Great did not make the starting team?

                            Because Crotty has been the best and most consistent midfielder in super rugby this year.

                            ALB was great against a shit Samoa team but hasn't been so good for the Chiefs this year.

                            I'm happy with Crotty, but think it should have been Crotty instead of SBW.

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                              @mariner4life said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):

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                              ALB admitted himself in an interview recently that his form hasn't been the best this year. Think it was when he was all over the NZ Herald modelling the new jersey.

                              A bit easier to look good against Samoa when you're lining up against Kieren Fonotia (he made Matt Faddes look like a superstar when we played the highlanders last year).

                              Anyway, personally I like Crotty/LB.... Sonny Bill made a couple of bad defensive plays last week, although he was bloody good in that Blues game.

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                              @SammyC said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):

                              @mariner4life said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):

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                              ALB admitted himself in an interview recently that his form hasn't been the best this year. Think it was when he was all over the NZ Herald modelling the new jersey.

                              A bit easier to look good against Samoa when you're lining up against Kieren Fonotia (he made Matt Faddes look like a superstar when we played the highlanders last year).

                              Anyway, personally I like Crotty/LB.... Sonny Bill made a couple of bad defensive plays last week, although he was bloody good in that Blues game.

                              You are missing part of the timeline. ALB started hitting his straps just after that and has had a number of very good games in a row.
                              I would have thought a Crotty/ALB as well but I don't know the playing structures the coaches have planned

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                                If anyone has access to this article, can you please post it here? I'm really keen to read this.

                                http://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2017/06/21/exclusive-interview-making-beauden-barrett-blacks-star-worlds/

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                                  If anyone has access to this article, can you please post it here? I'm really keen to read this.

                                  http://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2017/06/21/exclusive-interview-making-beauden-barrett-blacks-star-worlds/

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                                  @Stargazer said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):

                                  If anyone has access to this article, can you please post it here? I'm really keen to read this.

                                  http://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2017/06/21/exclusive-interview-making-beauden-barrett-blacks-star-worlds/

                                  Read this one while you're waiting 🙂
                                  http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/93970218/lions-tour-how-beauden-barrett-learned-to-play-barefooted

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                                  • nzzpN nzzp

                                    @Stargazer said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):

                                    If anyone has access to this article, can you please post it here? I'm really keen to read this.

                                    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2017/06/21/exclusive-interview-making-beauden-barrett-blacks-star-worlds/

                                    Read this one while you're waiting 🙂
                                    http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/93970218/lions-tour-how-beauden-barrett-learned-to-play-barefooted

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                                    @nzzp Lol, thanks!

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                                    • nzzpN nzzp

                                      @Stargazer said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):

                                      If anyone has access to this article, can you please post it here? I'm really keen to read this.

                                      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2017/06/21/exclusive-interview-making-beauden-barrett-blacks-star-worlds/

                                      Read this one while you're waiting 🙂
                                      http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/93970218/lions-tour-how-beauden-barrett-learned-to-play-barefooted

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                                      @nzzp GOAT and Beaudy both ran as kids to become better players. The correlation is undeniable.

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                                      • TimT Tim

                                        I hope that Cruden doesn't get on the field. Our play really deteriorated last year when he came on at 1st 5 and Barrett moved to the back.

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                                        @Tim said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):

                                        I hope that Cruden doesn't get on the field. Our play really deteriorated last year when he came on at 1st 5 and Barrett moved to the back.

                                        I agree with that.

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