Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz
-
@Catogrande said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@Crucial I'm told the M25 is an exemplary piece of road. It's the traffic that makes it a crock of shit.
#notfitforpurpose
So true.
Have you ever looked out the window of a plane in holding pattern coming into Heathrow and noticed that every single interchange on the M25 looks to have been designed by a different person? It is like they played some internal design contest with a years subscription to Train Spotters Monthly as first prize and a packet of chocolate biscuits as a consolation prizes for 'most confusing' and 'least effective'
-
I thought traffic and congestion management was well understood and accepted these days? Less speed means less gaps, which means more cars can use the road which creates greater throughput.
The greatest difficulty and something a lot of people appear to forget when complaining about road design is traffic increases to the capacity of the route. Build more lanes; more cars use it. Then you find another choke point...
And very few roads should ever be designed for peak hour capacity simply because of the enormous cost.
Brisbane is a city that has experienced enormous growing pains over the last two decades and the ability to get from one side to the other is hamstrung because of how few bridges there are for a river city. Try explaining to people that more bridges would mean more paths, with less congestion on what have developed to be the major (and only) routes.
-
-
@taniwharugby said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
the world is gonna end...again!!
Shit, I hate it when that happens.
-
@taniwharugby Day of: Virgin panic. Day after: Regrets, ER treating a fuckton of arm wounds that suspiciously match the patient's teeth.
-
@crucial said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@Catogrande said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@TeWaio The science (for want of a better word) on traffic throughput, congestion and so on is quite interesting and often counter intuitive. I have a mate that used to be in the local council and got involved in this area and he was full of stuff that at first sight seemed just odd, but on looking into it more it made and odd sort of sense.
A bit like on the M25 outer London orbital motorway, when there is congestion they reduce the speed limit and traffic goes faster.
Somehow.
Reminds me of that trial they did in one underground station of telling people to stand on both sides of the escalator. They had studied it and decided that although the left hand side fast lane got some people up more quickly, the total number of people being moved would increase if all gaps were filled.
Consequently the trial failed as there was no ability to fast track for the 25% that do and it just led to pissed off people.
An example of meddling in something that people have worked out for themselves as the 'most approved' over years.
I'm also not sure that the M25 is the best poster-child for traffic management.Haha, is there an echo in here?!
-
@antipodean said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
I thought traffic and congestion management was well understood and accepted these days? Less speed means less gaps, which means more cars can use the road which creates greater throughput.
The theory is fine if everyone travels at the same speed and don't leave big unnecessary gaps. As soon as you have a slow driver or big gapper everyone tries to get around them with lane changes into a 'full' lane which does that bounce effect and about 1km back the lane comes to a halt.
-
@crucial said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@antipodean said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
I thought traffic and congestion management was well understood and accepted these days? Less speed means less gaps, which means more cars can use the road which creates greater throughput.
The theory is fine if everyone travels at the same speed and don't leave big unnecessary gaps. As soon as you have a slow driver or big gapper everyone tries to get around them with lane changes into a 'full' lane which does that bounce effect and about 1km back the lane comes to a halt.
That's true regardless of speed, but the faster the speed, the more the compression and rarefaction is magnified.
Hence how I can sit on a dual lane divided freeway going nowhere and then all of a sudden we're back to warp speed.
-
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11924672
They should've drowned him in the harbour.
-
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11927641
Alicia Silverstone still has a nice arse but as for the article? Fucking Jesus
-
ahh - now with the mask I see that Silverstone is the matriarch of the Wyatt Family
-
Spelling at NZ Herald an absolute tradgedy
-
How will society cope with the loss of this fine young man?
Hope the immediate family are being looked after, no doubt their other 13 or so kids that are currently roaming the streets must be helped as well -
Stuff like this always cracks me up:
Baltimore youth’s rendition of ‘Rise Up’ helps soothe a troubled nation
-
I'm watching a story on prime time news about someone who bought a fucking chair and wasn't happy with it. Basically, nothing happened today in NZ and everything was chilled as fuck.
-
@no-quarter that's cos Whinny is a cnut and doesn't know the afternoon normally ends at 1800hrs
