Pumas v All Blacks

[Donsteppa]

That’s a great fairytale try to Havili.

[kev]

TJ blows...

[Tim]

So much sideways running and lateral play this half.

[Tim]

@kiwimurph We were without him for a long time, and still did it.

[Bones]

That's pretty cool at least, congrats Havili. Well deserved.

[Stargazer]

That was awesome! Great try from David Havili on debut! Promising!

[gt12]

It's a good point that right now we only seem to have one game plan.

Kind of feels like we've returned to the 2000s - we'll score 50 if it works or it'll be a wrestle if it doesn't.

I would hope that players like Barrett, TJP, and McKenzie consider that (or have it put to them).

[taniwharugby]

@tim said in Pumas v All Blacks:

@tim Think we lack McCaw's leadership. Hallmark of his team was ability to go back to basics.

Gold, replyingto your own post

[Nepia]

@gt12 said in Pumas v All Blacks:

It's a good point that right now we only seem to have one game plan.

Kind of feels like we've returned to the 2000s - we'll score 50 if it works or it'll be a wrestle if it doesn't.

I would hope that players like Barrett, TJP, and McKenzie consider that (or have it put to them).

Do you think we're just concentrating on one style at the moment. We might change it up for the EOYT.

[gt12]

@tim

Good point, but they usually had Cruden there in his place, and I think his game management ability may have been underestimated.

[Tim]

@taniwharugby You've got to reply to the best post to make the strongest point.

[hydro11]

@tim said in Pumas v All Blacks:

@tim Think we lack McCaw's leadership. Hallmark of his team was ability to go back to basics.

At about the 55th minute mark we had had no ball for the last 10 minutes. We had the ball from a scrum and Perenara just grubber kicked it away. That's an example of a time where we just need to be a bit smarter.

[KiwiMurph]

After all that the Argies still didnt win the second half.

[gt12]

@nepia

That's what I'm hoping. It's still 2 years till the WX, so games like this are good opportunities to try things I guess.

[Tim]

@hydro11 The grubber kick that went dead was one of the worst plays of the game. Dumb as shit.

[kev]

@tim yes with short deadball line

[Tim]

Do you think TJ whipped it out at the end?

[Chester Draws]

@kiwimurph said in Pumas v All Blacks:

@tim said in Pumas v All Blacks:

@tim Think we lack McCaw's leadership. Hallmark of his team was ability to go back to basics.

Carter at 10 too a huge factor there.

We were better under late McCaw (I remember Cardiff and how uncomposed that team was).

And that was largely Cruden.

[Marty]

@nepia Definitely only playing one style and I expect they'll keep practicing it unapologetically, errors and all, with next WC in mind .

[Rancid Schnitzel]

@kiwimurph said in Pumas v All Blacks:

@tim said in Pumas v All Blacks:

@tim Think we lack McCaw's leadership. Hallmark of his team was ability to go back to basics.

Carter at 10 too a huge factor there.

Actually I think the Nonu-Smith combo is a much bigger factor. SBW and ALB might throw the odd miracle ball but neither is a patch on their respective predecessors, particularly in terms of passing and being able to take some pressure off the flyhalf.