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Pumas v All Blacks

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  • TimT Tim

    @tim Think we lack McCaw's leadership. Hallmark of his team was ability to go back to basics.

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    @tim said in Pumas v All Blacks:

    @tim Think we lack McCaw's leadership. Hallmark of his team was ability to go back to basics.

    Gold, replyingto your own post

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    • gt12G gt12

      It's a good point that right now we only seem to have one game plan.

      Kind of feels like we've returned to the 2000s - we'll score 50 if it works or it'll be a wrestle if it doesn't.

      I would hope that players like Barrett, TJP, and McKenzie consider that (or have it put to them).

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      @gt12 said in Pumas v All Blacks:

      It's a good point that right now we only seem to have one game plan.

      Kind of feels like we've returned to the 2000s - we'll score 50 if it works or it'll be a wrestle if it doesn't.

      I would hope that players like Barrett, TJP, and McKenzie consider that (or have it put to them).

      Do you think we're just concentrating on one style at the moment. We might change it up for the EOYT.

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      • TimT Tim

        @kiwimurph We were without him for a long time, and still did it.

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        @tim

        Good point, but they usually had Cruden there in his place, and I think his game management ability may have been underestimated.

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        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

          @tim said in Pumas v All Blacks:

          @tim Think we lack McCaw's leadership. Hallmark of his team was ability to go back to basics.

          Gold, replyingto your own post

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          @taniwharugby You've got to reply to the best post to make the strongest point. 😉

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          • TimT Tim

            @tim Think we lack McCaw's leadership. Hallmark of his team was ability to go back to basics.

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            @tim said in Pumas v All Blacks:

            @tim Think we lack McCaw's leadership. Hallmark of his team was ability to go back to basics.

            At about the 55th minute mark we had had no ball for the last 10 minutes. We had the ball from a scrum and Perenara just grubber kicked it away. That's an example of a time where we just need to be a bit smarter.

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              After all that the Argies still didnt win the second half.

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              • NepiaN Nepia

                @gt12 said in Pumas v All Blacks:

                It's a good point that right now we only seem to have one game plan.

                Kind of feels like we've returned to the 2000s - we'll score 50 if it works or it'll be a wrestle if it doesn't.

                I would hope that players like Barrett, TJP, and McKenzie consider that (or have it put to them).

                Do you think we're just concentrating on one style at the moment. We might change it up for the EOYT.

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                @nepia

                That's what I'm hoping. It's still 2 years till the WX, so games like this are good opportunities to try things I guess.

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                  @tim said in Pumas v All Blacks:

                  @tim Think we lack McCaw's leadership. Hallmark of his team was ability to go back to basics.

                  At about the 55th minute mark we had had no ball for the last 10 minutes. We had the ball from a scrum and Perenara just grubber kicked it away. That's an example of a time where we just need to be a bit smarter.

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                  @hydro11 The grubber kick that went dead was one of the worst plays of the game. Dumb as shit.

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                  • TimT Tim

                    @hydro11 The grubber kick that went dead was one of the worst plays of the game. Dumb as shit.

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                    @tim yes with short deadball line

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                      Do you think TJ whipped it out at the end?

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                      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                        @tim said in Pumas v All Blacks:

                        @tim Think we lack McCaw's leadership. Hallmark of his team was ability to go back to basics.

                        Carter at 10 too a huge factor there.

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                        @kiwimurph said in Pumas v All Blacks:

                        @tim said in Pumas v All Blacks:

                        @tim Think we lack McCaw's leadership. Hallmark of his team was ability to go back to basics.

                        Carter at 10 too a huge factor there.

                        We were better under late McCaw (I remember Cardiff and how uncomposed that team was).

                        And that was largely Cruden.

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                        • NepiaN Nepia

                          @gt12 said in Pumas v All Blacks:

                          It's a good point that right now we only seem to have one game plan.

                          Kind of feels like we've returned to the 2000s - we'll score 50 if it works or it'll be a wrestle if it doesn't.

                          I would hope that players like Barrett, TJP, and McKenzie consider that (or have it put to them).

                          Do you think we're just concentrating on one style at the moment. We might change it up for the EOYT.

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                          @nepia Definitely only playing one style and I expect they'll keep practicing it unapologetically, errors and all, with next WC in mind .

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                          • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                            @tim said in Pumas v All Blacks:

                            @tim Think we lack McCaw's leadership. Hallmark of his team was ability to go back to basics.

                            Carter at 10 too a huge factor there.

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                            @kiwimurph said in Pumas v All Blacks:

                            @tim said in Pumas v All Blacks:

                            @tim Think we lack McCaw's leadership. Hallmark of his team was ability to go back to basics.

                            Carter at 10 too a huge factor there.

                            Actually I think the Nonu-Smith combo is a much bigger factor. SBW and ALB might throw the odd miracle ball but neither is a patch on their respective predecessors, particularly in terms of passing and being able to take some pressure off the flyhalf.

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                            • Rancid SchnitzelR Rancid Schnitzel

                              @kiwimurph said in Pumas v All Blacks:

                              @tim said in Pumas v All Blacks:

                              @tim Think we lack McCaw's leadership. Hallmark of his team was ability to go back to basics.

                              Carter at 10 too a huge factor there.

                              Actually I think the Nonu-Smith combo is a much bigger factor. SBW and ALB might throw the odd miracle ball but neither is a patch on their respective predecessors, particularly in terms of passing and being able to take some pressure off the flyhalf.

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                              @rancid-schnitzel

                              Also an excellent point.

                              I thought both SBW and ALB looked better tonight.

                              There were two or three times when ALB made just the right decision defending the outside break, stopping things cold. I used to hate that situation so much, and it was a huge strength of Smiths. If he can get accurate at that, we'll be in a great defensive situation going forward with Crotty also around.

                              I also liked it how ALB got more involved once SBW went off too.

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                                Lucky TVs are wide screen now or Bates' ears wouldn't be in the frame!

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                                • NepiaN Nepia

                                  Lucky TVs are wide screen now or Bates' ears wouldn't be in the frame!

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                                  @nepia said in Pumas v All Blacks:

                                  Lucky TVs are wide screen now or Bates' ears wouldn't be in the frame!

                                  and high for Webers forehead

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                                  • NepiaN Nepia

                                    Lucky TVs are wide screen now or Bates' ears wouldn't be in the frame!

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                                    @nepia said in Pumas v All Blacks:

                                    Lucky TVs are wide screen now or Bates' ears wouldn't be in the frame!

                                    @nepia said in Pumas v All Blacks:

                                    Lucky TVs are wide screen now or Bates' ears wouldn't be in the frame!

                                    Fuck off out of a decent rugby team thread 😉

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                                      What a dreadful second half that was.

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                                        Thought the ref did a great job in helping Argentina be more competitive in that second half by making several really bad calls.

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                                          First test match I've thought McKenzie could be a keeper. By far his best match in Black. Barrett was good in the 1st 40. As was SBW. 2nd half was pretty muck.

                                          As for Laurie Mains and Rugby Clichés 101 "The Pumas have a good scrum". Um, no they don't. Their scrum has been poor this RC, and was once again very average.

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