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    @act-crusader said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @kirwan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @antipodean said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @kirwan I hope she turns to the dark side.

    Possibly, Ren might turn to the light too. Nice not to be sure about where they are going. Im not 100% sure Luke is a good guy still.

    Yeah I reckon Luke has had a crisis of faith so to speak after training Ren and losing him to the dark side. He has dwelt on his emotions for too long and how he let down his sister and best friend. Those thoughts lead to anger, hate and jealously....

    And he mentions being afraid in the trailer, and we know where fear leads.

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    @rancid-schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    Watching that you realise how shit the leads are compared to the original. Luke, Han, Leah, Obi, Darth, Yoda, Emperor etc. vs Rey, Renn, Po, Finn, Phasma and General Deformed face. It ain't even a contest.

    I don't really agree with that. Even for its time, a lot of the acting in the original trilogy was quite hammy and the character development was hardly done in depth.

    It was held together by a fucking great bad guy in Darth Vader, who didn't have to act at all.

    Of course, its difficult trying to put a lens on your memories and compare them to the adults we've grown into.

    Kylo Ren is a massive fuckup without doubt. Besides being a fucking ugly fluffybunny who looks nothing like either of his parents, he's such a fucking emotard.

    Poe Dameron has barely been seen which is a character arc I think they've failed to cover adequately in pursuit of a massive 'splosion gallery.

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    Poe Dameron was supposed to die in the crash, then they decided to bring him back. So no surprise there wasn’t much arc for him.

    At least this one doesn’t have to introduce everything, so should get right on with it.

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    @kirwan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    Poe Dameron was supposed to die in the crash, then they decided to bring him back. So no surprise there wasn’t much arc for him.

    At least this one doesn’t have to introduce everything, so should get right on with it.

    This generation's Wedge Antilles? At least Po got to fire some guns and stuff I suppose

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    @nta said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @rancid-schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    Watching that you realise how shit the leads are compared to the original. Luke, Han, Leah, Obi, Darth, Yoda, Emperor etc. vs Rey, Renn, Po, Finn, Phasma and General Deformed face. It ain't even a contest.

    I don't really agree with that. Even for its time, a lot of the acting in the original trilogy was quite hammy and the character development was hardly done in depth.

    It was held together by a fucking great bad guy in Darth Vader, who didn't have to act at all.

    Of course, its difficult trying to put a lens on your memories and compare them to the adults we've grown into.

    Kylo Ren is a massive fuckup without doubt. Besides being a fucking ugly fluffybunny who looks nothing like either of his parents, he's such a fucking emotard.

    Poe Dameron has barely been seen which is a character arc I think they've failed to cover adequately in pursuit of a massive 'splosion gallery.

    It's not the acting it's the characters themselves. Luke, Han, Vader etc. shit on the current mob.

    Hope to see more of Po.

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    @Rancid-Schnitzel you are welcome to your own opinions but whenever it comes to SW stuff you are the biggest 'bah humbugger' of all time.

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    @crucial said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @Rancid-Schnitzel you are welcome to your own opinions but whenever it comes to SW stuff you are the biggest 'bah humbugger' of all time.

    No, you're all just living in denial.

    But seriously, how can you even compare the original characters with the current ones? It's like the Allblacks vs Tonga.

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    @rancid-schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @crucial said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @Rancid-Schnitzel you are welcome to your own opinions but whenever it comes to SW stuff you are the biggest 'bah humbugger' of all time.

    No, you're all just living in denial.

    But seriously, how can you even compare the original characters with the current ones? It's like the Allblacks vs Tonga.

    It's not always about the All Blacks you know.

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    @catogrande said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @rancid-schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @crucial said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @Rancid-Schnitzel you are welcome to your own opinions but whenever it comes to SW stuff you are the biggest 'bah humbugger' of all time.

    No, you're all just living in denial.

    But seriously, how can you even compare the original characters with the current ones? It's like the Allblacks vs Tonga.

    It's not always about the All Blacks you know.

    Yes it is dammit. But if you don't like that analogy how about Real Madrid vs Real Mallorca.

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    replied to Rancid Schnitzel on last edited by
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    @rancid-schnitzel I'm objecting to the sporticising of a non sport related thread. 😉

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    @catogrande said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @rancid-schnitzel I'm objecting to the sporticising of a non sport related thread. 😉

    Fair enough. How's this:

    Sports Illustrated Model vs Kmart model

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    @rancid-schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @catogrande said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @rancid-schnitzel I'm objecting to the sporticising of a non sport related thread. 😉

    Fair enough. How's this:

    Sports Illustrated Model vs Kmart model

    That's more like it although the easy availability of the latter can help outweigh the initial attraction of the former.

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  • KirwanK Offline
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    replied to Rancid Schnitzel on last edited by
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    @rancid-schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @crucial said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @Rancid-Schnitzel you are welcome to your own opinions but whenever it comes to SW stuff you are the biggest 'bah humbugger' of all time.

    No, you're all just living in denial.

    But seriously, how can you even compare the original characters with the current ones? It's like the Allblacks vs Tonga.

    Nothing will compare to the original trilogy, movie making was different back then and Star Wars was unique. Also, your memory of it was set as a child, which makes everything better.

    Luke's acting was not great in the first one, and Leia's was bad in the third.

    Personally, I'm comparing the new Star Wars films to the prequels, and to other films released these days. They are good films, well acted, and look fantastic. Very enjoyable.

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    replied to Kirwan on last edited by
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    @kirwan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @rancid-schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @crucial said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @Rancid-Schnitzel you are welcome to your own opinions but whenever it comes to SW stuff you are the biggest 'bah humbugger' of all time.

    No, you're all just living in denial.

    But seriously, how can you even compare the original characters with the current ones? It's like the Allblacks vs Tonga.

    Nothing will compare to the original trilogy, movie making was different back then and Star Wars was unique. Also, your memory of it was set as a child, which makes everything better.

    Luke's acting was not great in the first one, and Leia's was bad in the third.

    Personally, I'm comparing the new Star Wars films to the prequels, and to other films released these days. They are good films, well acted, and look fantastic. Very enjoyable.

    Here's the thing. The prequels weren't great but the characters (with the exception of JJB) were pretty awesome. Thus far the new trilogy is very weak in that department. Rey is OK but the others are pretty forgettable.

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  • KirwanK Offline
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    replied to Rancid Schnitzel on last edited by
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    @rancid-schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @kirwan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @rancid-schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @crucial said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @Rancid-Schnitzel you are welcome to your own opinions but whenever it comes to SW stuff you are the biggest 'bah humbugger' of all time.

    No, you're all just living in denial.

    But seriously, how can you even compare the original characters with the current ones? It's like the Allblacks vs Tonga.

    Nothing will compare to the original trilogy, movie making was different back then and Star Wars was unique. Also, your memory of it was set as a child, which makes everything better.

    Luke's acting was not great in the first one, and Leia's was bad in the third.

    Personally, I'm comparing the new Star Wars films to the prequels, and to other films released these days. They are good films, well acted, and look fantastic. Very enjoyable.

    Here's the thing. The prequels weren't great but the characters (with the exception of JJB) were pretty awesome. Thus far the new trilogy is very weak in that department. Rey is OK but the others are pretty forgettable.

    Wut?

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    replied to Kirwan on last edited by
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    @kirwan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @rancid-schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @kirwan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @rancid-schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @crucial said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @Rancid-Schnitzel you are welcome to your own opinions but whenever it comes to SW stuff you are the biggest 'bah humbugger' of all time.

    No, you're all just living in denial.

    But seriously, how can you even compare the original characters with the current ones? It's like the Allblacks vs Tonga.

    Nothing will compare to the original trilogy, movie making was different back then and Star Wars was unique. Also, your memory of it was set as a child, which makes everything better.

    Luke's acting was not great in the first one, and Leia's was bad in the third.

    Personally, I'm comparing the new Star Wars films to the prequels, and to other films released these days. They are good films, well acted, and look fantastic. Very enjoyable.

    Here's the thing. The prequels weren't great but the characters (with the exception of JJB) were pretty awesome. Thus far the new trilogy is very weak in that department. Rey is OK but the others are pretty forgettable.

    Wut?

    What wut?

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    replied to Rancid Schnitzel on last edited by
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    @rancid-schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @kirwan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @rancid-schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @crucial said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @Rancid-Schnitzel you are welcome to your own opinions but whenever it comes to SW stuff you are the biggest 'bah humbugger' of all time.

    No, you're all just living in denial.

    But seriously, how can you even compare the original characters with the current ones? It's like the Allblacks vs Tonga.

    Nothing will compare to the original trilogy, movie making was different back then and Star Wars was unique. Also, your memory of it was set as a child, which makes everything better.

    Luke's acting was not great in the first one, and Leia's was bad in the third.

    Personally, I'm comparing the new Star Wars films to the prequels, and to other films released these days. They are good films, well acted, and look fantastic. Very enjoyable.

    Here's the thing. The prequels weren't great but the characters (with the exception of JJB) were pretty awesome. Thus far the new trilogy is very weak in that department. Rey is OK but the others are pretty forgettable.

    Yeah I think your alone on that one, even George might disagree with you...
    Which of the sequel characters were your favourites? The stiff and wooden padame, whiny and also stiff Ani, the under used Obi Wan, Jar jar, also under used Darth Maul or the CGI soulless version of Yoda?

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    @virgil said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @rancid-schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @kirwan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @rancid-schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @crucial said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @Rancid-Schnitzel you are welcome to your own opinions but whenever it comes to SW stuff you are the biggest 'bah humbugger' of all time.

    No, you're all just living in denial.

    But seriously, how can you even compare the original characters with the current ones? It's like the Allblacks vs Tonga.

    Nothing will compare to the original trilogy, movie making was different back then and Star Wars was unique. Also, your memory of it was set as a child, which makes everything better.

    Luke's acting was not great in the first one, and Leia's was bad in the third.

    Personally, I'm comparing the new Star Wars films to the prequels, and to other films released these days. They are good films, well acted, and look fantastic. Very enjoyable.

    Here's the thing. The prequels weren't great but the characters (with the exception of JJB) were pretty awesome. Thus far the new trilogy is very weak in that department. Rey is OK but the others are pretty forgettable.

    Yeah I think your alone on that one, even George might disagree with you...
    Which of the sequel characters were your favourites? The stiff and wooden padame, whiny and also stiff Ani, the under used Obi Wan, Jar jar, also under used Darth Maul or the CGI soulless version of Yoda?

    Interesting you completely avoid mention of Qui Gon, Mace, Grevious, Dooku etc. Underused Obi Wan? Have you even seen these films? How on earth was he underused.?

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    @nta said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @rancid-schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    Watching that you realise how shit the leads are compared to the original. Luke, Han, Leah, Obi, Darth, Yoda, Emperor etc. vs Rey, Renn, Po, Finn, Phasma and General Deformed face. It ain't even a contest.

    I don't really agree with that. Even for its time, a lot of the acting in the original trilogy was quite hammy and the character development was hardly done in depth.

    It was held together by a fucking great bad guy in Darth Vader, who didn't have to act at all.

    Of course, its difficult trying to put a lens on your memories and compare them to the adults we've grown into.

    Kylo Ren is a massive fuckup without doubt. Besides being a fucking ugly fluffybunny who looks nothing like either of his parents, he's such a fucking emotard.

    Poe Dameron has barely been seen which is a character arc I think they've failed to cover adequately in pursuit of a massive 'splosion gallery.

    The prequels introduced some terrific baddies in Darth Maul, Count Dooku, Jango Fett and General Grievous. Says a lot for Vaders presence that none of those mentioned can touch him in terms of all round awesomeness.

    To touch on your other point Luke was pretty dark and ruthless by ROTJ but there was still room for cheese....I'm with you too!!'

    Barf...

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    @rancid-schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @virgil said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @rancid-schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @kirwan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @rancid-schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @crucial said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @Rancid-Schnitzel you are welcome to your own opinions but whenever it comes to SW stuff you are the biggest 'bah humbugger' of all time.

    No, you're all just living in denial.

    But seriously, how can you even compare the original characters with the current ones? It's like the Allblacks vs Tonga.

    Nothing will compare to the original trilogy, movie making was different back then and Star Wars was unique. Also, your memory of it was set as a child, which makes everything better.

    Luke's acting was not great in the first one, and Leia's was bad in the third.

    Personally, I'm comparing the new Star Wars films to the prequels, and to other films released these days. They are good films, well acted, and look fantastic. Very enjoyable.

    Here's the thing. The prequels weren't great but the characters (with the exception of JJB) were pretty awesome. Thus far the new trilogy is very weak in that department. Rey is OK but the others are pretty forgettable.

    Yeah I think your alone on that one, even George might disagree with you...
    Which of the sequel characters were your favourites? The stiff and wooden padame, whiny and also stiff Ani, the under used Obi Wan, Jar jar, also under used Darth Maul or the CGI soulless version of Yoda?

    Interesting you completely avoid mention of Qui Gon, Mace, Grevious, Dooku etc. Underused Obi Wan? Have you even seen these films? How on earth was he underused.?

    Those other characters were small, Obi Wan wasn’t well used in my opinion.
    Maybe I’m too anti due to the fact 98% of those movies were filmed in front of a green screen.

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