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ABs vs Kangaroos?

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  • BovidaeB Bovidae

    I remember watching the Wigan-Bath clashes in 1996. They were full games of each code.

    Wiki says Wigan won the RL game 82-6 and Bath won the rugby game 44-19. Wigan was very good back then and were much fitter than their rugby counterparts.

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    @bovidae said in ABs vs Kangaroos?:

    I remember watching the Wigan-Bath clashes in 1996. They were full games of each code.

    Wiki says Wigan won the RL game 82-6 and Bath won the rugby game 44-19. Wigan was very good back then and were much fitter than their rugby counterparts.

    Inga played flanker for Wigan.

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      Who wouldn't want to watch this?!! I don't care if you are a purist or not, there would not be a NZ man, women, cat, dog or amoeba that would not take a passing interest in this.

      Of course its not going to happen but whats wrong with talking about who would win? We would only need to play our backs with Ardie, Read and Coles. No locks, no props. And we'd win. SWB, Laumape, c'mon, you already know.

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      • raznomoreR raznomore

        Who wouldn't want to watch this?!! I don't care if you are a purist or not, there would not be a NZ man, women, cat, dog or amoeba that would not take a passing interest in this.

        Of course its not going to happen but whats wrong with talking about who would win? We would only need to play our backs with Ardie, Read and Coles. No locks, no props. And we'd win. SWB, Laumape, c'mon, you already know.

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        @raznomore said in ABs vs Kangaroos?:

        Who wouldn't want to watch this?!! I don't care if you are a purist or not, there would not be a NZ man, women, cat, dog or amoeba that would not take a passing interest in this.

        Of course its not going to happen but whats wrong with talking about who would win? We would only need to play our backs with Ardie, Read and Coles. No locks, no props. And we'd win. SWB, Laumape, c'mon, you already know.

        No Cane? He'd be great as a tackling machine.

        I'd prefer a one game of each than any of this hybrid shit. And I guess the Kangaroos would win the league and the ABs would pummel them in the rugby.

        Funnily enough, although he's departing, I think the TKB would be the best bet to play dummy half, good at running from the base and strong defence.

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        • raznomoreR raznomore

          Who wouldn't want to watch this?!! I don't care if you are a purist or not, there would not be a NZ man, women, cat, dog or amoeba that would not take a passing interest in this.

          Of course its not going to happen but whats wrong with talking about who would win? We would only need to play our backs with Ardie, Read and Coles. No locks, no props. And we'd win. SWB, Laumape, c'mon, you already know.

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          @raznomore said in ABs vs Kangaroos?:

          No locks, no props.

          If there are scrums and rucks I'd want locks and props. It would quickly become a game of 13 vs 7. πŸ˜„

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            More pertinent, a 2003 clash between a now fully professional Sale and St Helens was also played (one half of each code). Jason Robinson was playing for Sale.

            Sale won the 1st half of RU 41-0 and St Helens scored 39 pts in the 2nd half of RL. Final score 41-39.

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            • antipodeanA antipodean

              @raznomore said in ABs vs Kangaroos?:

              No locks, no props.

              If there are scrums and rucks I'd want locks and props. It would quickly become a game of 13 vs 7. πŸ˜„

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              @antipodean I think the best spectacle is to go more into the league variant. There would be no real scrums as the league boys do not have props with the right training to compete. Thus not requiring locks either.

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              • raznomoreR raznomore

                @antipodean I think the best spectacle is to go more into the league variant. There would be no real scrums as the league boys do not have props with the right training to compete. Thus not requiring locks either.

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                @raznomore said in ABs vs Kangaroos?:

                @antipodean I think the best spectacle is to go more into the league variant.

                Then what's the point if you remove the very thing that makes the two games different; a contest for possession? That's a spectacle like Joseph Merrick

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                • antipodeanA antipodean

                  @raznomore said in ABs vs Kangaroos?:

                  @antipodean I think the best spectacle is to go more into the league variant.

                  Then what's the point if you remove the very thing that makes the two games different; a contest for possession? That's a spectacle like Joseph Merrick

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                  @antipodean which is why it'd never truly work.

                  As it is, the hybrid version wants to go back 30 years to pre-lifting days.

                  Reckon their best bet, would be to get 20 Union players to play League, just for the festival side of things, whereas finding a competent forward pack of league players in Australia purely for the safety side of things would be impossible

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                  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                    @antipodean which is why it'd never truly work.

                    As it is, the hybrid version wants to go back 30 years to pre-lifting days.

                    Reckon their best bet, would be to get 20 Union players to play League, just for the festival side of things, whereas finding a competent forward pack of league players in Australia purely for the safety side of things would be impossible

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                    @taniwharugby yip thats essentially it in a nut shell. Forget about which is the better game. We know that already, make it about which is the better athlete.

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                    • raznomoreR raznomore

                      @taniwharugby yip thats essentially it in a nut shell. Forget about which is the better game. We know that already, make it about which is the better athlete.

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                      @raznomore said in ABs vs Kangaroos?:

                      @taniwharugby yip thats essentially it in a nut shell. Forget about which is the better game. We know that already, make it about which is the better athlete.

                      A decathlon? πŸ˜‰

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                        @raznomore said in ABs vs Kangaroos?:

                        @taniwharugby yip thats essentially it in a nut shell. Forget about which is the better game. We know that already, make it about which is the better athlete.

                        A decathlon? πŸ˜‰

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                        @antipodean eat some ice cream do some bombs!

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                        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                          @antipodean eat some ice cream do some bombs!

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                          @taniwharugby said in ABs vs Kangaroos?:

                          @antipodean eat some ice cream do some bombs!

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                            Mayweather v McGrethor then innit

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                              @taniwharugby said in ABs vs Kangaroos?:

                              @antipodean eat some ice cream do some bombs!

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                              @antipodean

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                                I reckon a game of 7s that had a mix of ABs/Kiwis vs Wallabies/Kangaroos would be fun to watch.

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                                • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                  More pertinent, a 2003 clash between a now fully professional Sale and St Helens was also played (one half of each code). Jason Robinson was playing for Sale.

                                  Sale won the 1st half of RU 41-0 and St Helens scored 39 pts in the 2nd half of RL. Final score 41-39.

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                                  @bovidae said in ABs vs Kangaroos?:

                                  More pertinent, a 2003 clash between a now fully professional Sale and St Helens was also played (one half of each code). Jason Robinson was playing for Sale.

                                  Sale won the 1st half of RU 41-0 and St Helens scored 39 pts in the 2nd half of RL. Final score 41-39.

                                  That was fun to watch even though each team only scored when their code was played!

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                                  • Rancid SchnitzelR Rancid Schnitzel

                                    The window was apparently two weeks to a month after the RWC. Yeah OK. Win, lose or draw there's no fucking way the abs would want to play a game like that right after the RWC.

                                    I don't mind if club teams or even a select group of players do something like this, but not the abs. No way.

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                                    @rancid-schnitzel said in ABs vs Kangaroos?:

                                    The window was apparently two weeks to a month after the RWC. Yeah OK. Win, lose or draw there's no fucking way the abs would want to play a game like that right after the RWC.

                                    I don't mind if club teams or even a select group of players do something like this, but not the abs. No way.

                                    Win , they will be celebrating and wont want to see another football for sometime

                                    Lose , they will be sulking and wont want to see another football for sometime

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                                      Read some comments online from mainly (Aussie) league fans, who didn't want this because:
                                      league is a far more intelligent game than union and they didn't want to be dragged down to union's level,
                                      league is a far superior game to union and league players are far superior athletes than union players,
                                      the Kangaroos would crush the ABs (the only thing they seemed to like about it).
                                      They also said the ABs didn't want it because they were scared.

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                                        The Mayweather v MacGregor comparison is an interesting one... and makes me think the "hybrid" idea is farcical.

                                        The Herald today reports Kangaroos surprised by news of a ABs v Roos clash, call it a "pipe dream," yet they welcome it.

                                        Mel Maninga is quoted as saying, "Anything that's going to help promote both games ... playing against the All Blacks, they've got a worldwide brand. From a Kangaroos point of view that would certainly help that."

                                        (Emphasis mine.)

                                        He's right. ABs have a worldwide brand. Kangaroos are nowehere close. (Sorry Okkers; sorry League fans, but it's true.) ABs are the world's best rugby team. As Ric Flair sez, "If You Wanna Be the Man, You've Got To Beat The Man."

                                        If the Floyd v Conor fight had attempted to be a hybrid "sports entertainment" event between boxing & mma it would have been an absurd mess. So kudos to the latter, who had to STEP UP into the ring to face the master at his level of expertise, and although nobody gave him a chance he acquitted himself very well.

                                        If Roos want to prove a point, pump petrol into their brand and make a ton of cash, they should learn & practice real rugby and take the ABs on at XVs. That's something people would pay to see. Roos need to take step UP; ABs should not debase themselves stepping down to play a junk hybrid joke. To be the man, you've got to beat the man.

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                                          It'll only ever happen on a video game. The codes are vastly different and besides who is going to insure all the players? I wouldn't want to go down in history as the AB who's career got cut short because of an injury in a game like that

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