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  • BovidaeB Bovidae

    Devine before them.

    Sadly, I think this will be a more common occurrence as greater knowledge and education about the long-term effects of concussion leaves the player with no alternative.

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    taniwharugby
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    @bovidae While anecdotally is easy to say it will be worse now than 20+ years ago, and probably will get worse, the measures and testing available now will increase the numbers without taking into account the physicality compared with 20+ years ago as well.

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    • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

      @bovidae While anecdotally is easy to say it will be worse now than 20+ years ago, and probably will get worse, the measures and testing available now will increase the numbers without taking into account the physicality compared with 20+ years ago as well.

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      @taniwharugby

      Players from the amateur era retired due to concussion. Jock Hobbs is an example. But more would have just shaken off any symptoms and got on with it.

      I agree that the increased physicality and force of collisions is greater now, which definitely plays a part.

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        From the bottom of the Goodes article

        A sample of other players to retire due to concussion

        • James Broadhurst - Hurricanes
        • Leon MacDonald - Crusaders
        • Steve Devine - Blues
        • Ben Afeaki - Chiefs
        • Craig Clarke - Chiefs
        • David Briggs - Chiefs
        • Shane Cleaver - Chiefs
        • Kane Barrett - Blues

        Really sad to see Goodes have to pull the pin. A really solid player who hadn't yet reached his full potential. Didn't he score a primo try (for a prop!) in our winning season... will have to have a hunt around for it.

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          #2945
          They can't play dumb on this as the situation was the same in 2012, 2013, 2014 and 2016.
          
          The exceptions were 2015 because there was a significant preparation period between the end of Super Rugby and the first scheduled test and last year, again because the squad assembled two weeks before taking on the British & Irish Lions.
          
          ............................................................................
          
          The truth is that the training camps are not much of a big deal at all, but Super Rugby coaches had their respective noses put out of joint by the way the All Blacks' intentions were communicated. The process was poor apparently: a touch dictatorial while the initial demands were also thought to be excessive.
          
          But here we are now with an agreement that seems reasonable and bang in line with previous seasons which means it is time to get over it.
          

          http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11993623

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            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/101400955/crusaders-name-12-all-blacks-in-side-to-play-highlanders-in-waimumu

            Crusaders: David Havili, Seta Tamanivalu, Jack Goodhue, Ryan Crotty, Braydon Ennor, Richie Mo'unga, Bryn Hall, Jordan Taufua, Matt Todd, Pete Samu, Sam Whitelock (captain), Scott Barrett, Michael Alaalatoa, Codie Taylor, Wyatt Crockett. Reserves: Ezekiel Lindenmuth, Chris King, Ben Funnell, Oli Jager, Luke Romano, Quinten Strange, Heiden Bedwell-Curtis, Billy Harmon, Mitchell Drummond, Mitch Hunt, Jone Macilai, Tim Bateman, Manasa Mataele, George Bridge.

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              Moody, Franks and Perry all out leaves us pretty shorthanded in the propping stocks. Crockett and Alaalatoa are serviceable, but then the untried Lindenmuth, the last legs of Chris King and the somewhat underwhelming Jager.

              Having both Drummond and Taufua fit and ready to go is a plus.

              I presume that - as well as the various ABs listed in the article as out injured - so too are Mitchell Dunshea (again!) and Will Jordan.

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                12 ABs plus FABBE.....

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                • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                  12 ABs plus FABBE.....

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                  @act-crusader said in Super Rugby News:

                  12 ABs plus FABBE.....

                  I was expecting him to carve up the 10s but he was more Caleb Ralph than Caleb Clarke.

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                    Chiefs add All Blacks Damian McKenzie and Brodie Retallick for Brumbies pre-season clash

                    Chiefs: Shaun Stevenson, Tim Nanai-Williams, Anton Lienert-Brown, Alex Nankivell, Solomon Alaimalo, Damian McKenzie, Brad Weber, Taleni Seu, Sam Cane (co-capt), Mitchell Brown, Dominic Bird, Brodie Retallick, Nepo Laulala, Liam Polwart, Atu Moli.

                    Reserves: Kane Hames, Samisoni Taukei'aho, Angus Ta'avao, Aidan Ross, Michael Allardice, Lachlan Boshier, Liam Messam, Mitchell Karpik, Luke Jacobson, Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi, Marty McKenzie, Tiaan Falcon, Johnny Fa'auli, Charlie Ngatai (co-capt)

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                      Bovidae
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                      Nankivell was pants in the Blues game. That looks close to the first-choice backline with Ngatai in for Nankivell. Maybe the right wing spot is open too.

                      Aumua, Verney, Pulu and Ardron haven't seen sighted yet.

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                        Highlanders name their team for Waimumu 1. Daniel Lienert-Brown

                        1. Liam Coltman

                        2. Siate Tokolahi

                        3. Jackson Hemopo

                        4. Tom Franklin

                        5. Liam Squire

                        6. Dillon Hunt

                        7. Luke Whitelock

                        8. Aaron Smith

                        9. Lima Sopoaga

                        10. Tevita Li

                        11. Rob Thompson

                        12. Matt Faddes

                        13. Waisake Naholo

                        14. Ben Smith (cc)

                        15. Ash Dixon (cc)

                        16. Aki Seiuli

                        17. Tyrel Lomax

                        18. Alex Ainley

                        19. Dan Pryor

                        20. Elliot Dixon

                        21. Kayne Hammington

                        22. Fletcher Smith

                        23. Teihorangi Walden

                        24. Tevita Nabura

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                          Is that 36 year old Chris King on the bench for the Crusaders?

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                            #2954

                            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/101445769/ihaia-west-gets-preseason-starting-nod-for-hurricanes-against-the-blues

                            Hurricanes squad: Matt Proctor, Julian Savea, Vince Aso, Ngani Laumape, Wes Goosen, Ihaia West, TJ Perenara, Gareth Evans, Ardia Savea, Brad Shields, Vaea Fifita, Sam Lousi, Ben May, Ricky Riccitelli, Toby Smith. Reserves: Asafo Aumua, James O'Reilly, Alex Fidow, Chris Eves, Fraser Armstrong, Murray Douglas, James Blackwell, Michael Fatialofa, Sam Henwood, Reed Prinsep, Blade Thomson, Jamie Booth, Jackson Garden-Bachop, Chase Tiatia, Ben Lam, Jonah Lowe, Trent Renata.

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                            • S SouthernMann

                              Is that 36 year old Chris King on the bench for the Crusaders?

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                              @southernmann Yep - pretty sure it is.

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                                Take out Barrett and Coles, and that's a lot different looking Hurricanes team.

                                Barrett is a wizard at this level.

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                                  cgrant
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                                  Good to see Fatialofa and Blade Thompson back in the line-up. Also interesting is Atu Moli selected at loose head for the Chiefs. Maybe his aspirations for an All Blacks call lay there.

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                                    Chiefs add All Blacks Damian McKenzie and Brodie Retallick for Brumbies pre-season clash

                                    Chiefs: Shaun Stevenson, Tim Nanai-Williams, Anton Lienert-Brown, Alex Nankivell, Solomon Alaimalo, Damian McKenzie, Brad Weber, Taleni Seu, Sam Cane (co-capt), Mitchell Brown, Dominic Bird, Brodie Retallick, Nepo Laulala, Liam Polwart, Atu Moli.

                                    Reserves: Kane Hames, Samisoni Taukei'aho, Angus Ta'avao, Aidan Ross, Michael Allardice, Lachlan Boshier, Liam Messam, Mitchell Karpik, Luke Jacobson, Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi, Marty McKenzie, Tiaan Falcon, Johnny Fa'auli, Charlie Ngatai (co-capt)

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                                    mooshld
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                                    @tim

                                    Great to have Brodie back. Still feel for the big fellah.

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                                    • M mooshld

                                      @tim

                                      Great to have Brodie back. Still feel for the big fellah.

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                                      #2959

                                      @mooshld I support him taking the Super Rugby season off as well. 😉

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                                        @tim

                                        Great to have Brodie back. Still feel for the big fellah.

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                                        Stockcar86
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                                        #2960

                                        @mooshld said in Super Rugby News:

                                        @tim

                                        Great to have Brodie back. Still feel for the big fellah.

                                        Let him rest during Super Rugby and play some Mitre 10 Cup to get ready for the AB season

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                                          mikedogz
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                                          Chiefs Game currently on

                                          Anyone at the game or found a live link?

                                          My app tells me it is 24 to 7 to the chiefs. Brad Weber has 3 tries!

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