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Speaking of scrums, has anyone seen a scrum win against the feed now they can feed
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Speaking of scrums, has anyone seen a scrum win against the feed now they can feed
into the second rowunder their hooker's feet..?@antipodean said in Super Rugby News:
Speaking of scrums, has anyone seen a scrum win against the feed now they can feed
into the second rowunder their hooker's feet..?I saw a scrum reset because the hooker was so contorted trying to scrum with a leg in the middle that his side could get no power on. The ball got stuck in the second row.
I believe the top refs have tried to emphasise a straight put in if the foot is up.
Does eem crazy to allow foot up.
Trying to avoid the times when the ball is sitting in the tunnel going nowhere because no one can hook under pressure I guess. -
plenty of scrums the ball does go down the centre and just sit there as there is no strike as both teams are so even matched they seem to be afraid of striking and losing a bit of power and the scrum
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http://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=11998236
Should a team lose two props to injury and one more to a yellow or red card, they will then be forced to play with 13 players.
This seems like overkill ...
@tim said in Super Rugby News:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=11998236
Should a team lose two props to injury and one more to a yellow or red card, they will then be forced to play with 13 players.
This seems like overkill ...
This new law would make Dave Rennie bloody angry if he was still a Super coach.
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@tim said in Super Rugby News:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=11998236
Should a team lose two props to injury and one more to a yellow or red card, they will then be forced to play with 13 players.
This seems like overkill ...
This new law would make Dave Rennie bloody angry if he was still a Super coach.
@no-quarter maybe thats why he left?
Although TBF, wasnt it the accusations of manipulating the uncontested scrums rule that made him bloody angry, not the uncontested scrums?
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Um, super rugby started last weekend! The fuck?
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Um, super rugby started last weekend! The fuck?
@mariner4life said in Super Rugby News:
Um, super rugby started last weekend! The fuck?
Its a time zone thing. You live in an area where the timezone varies from hours to years behind the civilised world and sometimes that makes it difficult to keep up.
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Um, super rugby started last weekend! The fuck?
@mariner4life said in Super Rugby News:
Um, super rugby started last weekend! The fuck?
Only the second tier competition
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Handy overview of the current state of the NZ Super Rugby squads below (from stuff). Please, let me know whether any players are missing from either squad list or injury list (I'll try to keep track of injuries etc during the season).
Blues
SQUAD
Forwards: Leni Apisai, Matt Moulds, James Parsons, Alex Hodgman, Sione Mafileo, Pauliasi Manu, Isaac Salmon, Mike Tamoaieta, Ofa Tu'ungafasi, Gerard Cowley-Tuioti, Josh Goodhue, Scott Scrafton, Patrick Tuipulotu, Jimmy Tupou, Blake Gibson, Akira Ioane, Jerome Kaino, Dalton Papali'i, Glenn Preston, Kara Pryor, Murphy Taramai.
Backs: Sam Nock, Augustine Puli, Jonathan Ruru, Otere Black/Daniel Kirkpatrick, Bryn Gatland, Stephen Perofeta, Matt Johnson, George Moala, Tamati Tua, TJ Faiane, Sonny Bill Williams, Caleb Clarke, Michael Collins, Matt Duffie, Rieko Ioane, Melanie Nanai, Jordan Trainor.
NEW RECRUITS
Leni Apisai, Isaac Salmon, Mike Tamoaieta, Glenn Preston, Otere Black, Daniel Kirkpatrick, Caleb Clarke.
RELEASED
Charlie Faumuina, Sam Prattley, Steven Luatua, Billy Guyton, Ihaia West, Piers Francis, Matt Vaega, Declan O'Donnell.
WHEN DO INJURED PLAYERS RETURN?*
Blake Gibson (shoulder - undetermined), Otere Black (knee - undetermined, may miss entire season), Stephen Perofeta (hand, week 5-6), Dalton Papali'i (hand - week 6), Kara Pryor (ankle, week 3-4), Matt Moulds (knee, ?), TJ Faiane (calf), Jerome Kaino (ankle), Isaac Salmon (elbow), Jimmy Tupou (rib), Sione Mafileo (knee)
*updated list
Chiefs
SQUAD
Forwards: Kane Hames, Mitchell Graham, Aidan Ross, Nepo Laulala, Atu Moli, Sefo Kautai, Nathan Harris, Samisoni Taukei'aho, Liam Polwart, Brodie Retallick, Dominic Bird, Michael Allardice, Fin Hoeata, Taleni Seu, Mitchell Brown, Tyler Ardron, Liam Messam, Luke Jacobson, Sam Cane, Mitchell Karpik, Lachlan Boshier.
Backs: Brad Weber, Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi, Jonathan Taumateine, Damian McKenzie, Tiaan Falcon, Marty McKenzie, Charlie Ngatai, Anton Lienert-Brown, Johnny Fa'auli, Alex Nankivell, Regan Verney, Sam McNicol, Solomon Alaimalo, Tim Nanai-Williams, Toni Pulu, Shaun Stevenson, Levi Aumua.
NEW RECRUITS
Fin Hoeata, Tyler Ardron, Luke Jacobson, Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi, Tiaan Falcon, Marty McKenzie, Regan Verney, Levi Aumua.
RELEASED
Siegfried Fisi'ihoi, Hika Elliot, Brayden Mitchell, Sebastian Siataga, James Tucker, Tom Sanders, Michael Leitch, Finlay Christie, Tawera Kerr-Barlow, Aaron Cruden, Stephen Donald, Glen Fisiiahi, James Lowe, Chase Tiatia.
WHEN DO INJURED PLAYERS RETURN?
Mitchell Graham (March), Sefo Kautai (March), Sam McNicol (indefinite), Tim Nanai-Williams (indefinite).
Crusaders
SQUAD
Forwards: Ben Funnell, Andrew Makalio, Codie Taylor, Mike Alaalatoa, Wyatt Crockett, Owen Franks, Oliver Jager, Joe Moody, Tim Perry, Scott Barrett, Mitchell Dunshea, Luke Romano, Quinten Strange, Sam Whitelock, Ethan Blackadder, Billy Harmon, Kieran Read, Tom Sanders, Pete Samu, Jordan Taufua, Matt Todd.
Backs: Mitchell Drummond, Bryn Hall, Jack Stratton, Mike Delany, Mitchell Hunt, Richie Mo'unga, Tim Bateman, Ryan Crotty, Jack Goodhue, Braydon Ennor, George Bridge, Israel Dagg, David Havili, Will Jordan, Jone Macilai, Manasa Mataele, Seta Tamanivalu.
NEW RECRUITS
Ethan Blackadder, Mike Delany, Braydon Ennor, Billy Harmon, Will Jordan, Tom Sanders, Jack Stratton.
RELEASED
Jed Brown, Whetu Douglas, Sione Fifita, Vernon Fredericks, Leon Fukofuka, Digby Ioane, Marty McKenzie, Sean Wainui.
- Heiden Bedwell-Curtis was not included in the original squad but has been called-in to provide cover in the back row, until Kieran Read returns from injury.
WHEN DO INJURED PLAYERS RETURN?
Kieran Read (mid-April), Owen Franks (mid-April), Joe Moody (mid-April), Israel Dagg (mid-April), Tim Perry (late-February), Tom Sanders (April).
Highlanders
SQUAD
Forwards: Luke Whitelock, Liam Squire, Elliot Dixon, Shannon Frizell, Dillon Hunt, James Lentjes, Dan Pryor, Alex Ainley, Tom Franklin, Jackson Hemopo, Josh Dickson, Pari Pari Parkinson, Kalolo Tuiloma, Siate Tokolahi, Daniel Lienert-Brown, Tyrel Lomax, Aki Seiuli, Guy Millar, Ash Dixon (cc), Greg Pleasants-Tate, Liam Coltman.
Backs: Ben Smith (cc), Josh McKay, Tevita Li, Waisake Naholo, Tevita Nabura, Thomas Umaga-Jensen, Richard Buckman, Sio Tomkinson, Matt Faddes, Rob Thompson, Tei Walden, Lima Sopoaga, Fletcher Smith, Josh Ioane, Josh Renton, Kayne Hammington, Aaron Smith.
NEW RECRUITS
Josh McKay, Tevita Nabura, Thomas Umaga-Jensen, Josh Ioane, Shannon Frizell, Pari Pari Parkinson, Kalolo Tuiloma, Tyrel Lomax
The article should have included Marino Mikaele-Tu'u in this list, who has been signed by the Landers.
RELEASED
Shane Christie, Marty Banks, Siosuia Halanukonuka, Malakai Fekitoa, Craig Millar, Joe Wheeler, Gareth Evans, Hayden Parker, Patrick Osborne, Jason Emery.
- Midfielder Terrence Hepetema was not included in the original squad but is providing injury cover for Thomas Umaga-Jensen.
WHEN DO INJURED PLAYERS RETURN?
James Lentjes (April), Thomas Umaga-Jensen (May), Richard Buckman (neck injury will be reassessed in three weeks)
Hurricanes
SQUAD
Forwards: Gareth Evans, Blade Thomson, Ardie Savea, Sam Henwood, Brad Shields, Reed Prinsep, Vaea Fifita, Sam Lousi, Michael Fatialofa, James Blackwell, Murray Douglas, Jeff To'omaga-Allen, Alex Fidow, Ben May, Chris Eves, Toby Smith, Dane Coles, Asafo Aumua, Ricky Riccitelli, James O'Reilly
Backs: Jordie Barrett, Nehe Milner-Skudder, Ben Lam, Wes Goosen, Jonah Lowe, Julian Savea, Peter Umaga-Jensen, Vince Aso, Matt Proctor, Ngani Laumape, Ihaia West, Jackson Garden-Bachop, Beauden Barrett, TJ Perenara, Jamie Booth, Finlay Christie.
NEW RECRUITS
Sam Henwood, Gareth Evans, Ihaia West, Jackson Garden-Bachop, Jamie Booth, Finlay Christie, Alex Fidow, Asafo Aumua, Toby Smith, Murray Douglas, Jonah Lowe.
RELEASED
Cory Jane, Reggie Goodes, Mark Abbott, Callum Gibbins, Loni Uhila, Leni Apisai, Mike Kainga, Toa Halafihi, Hugh Renton, Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi, Kylem O'Donnell, Otere Black.
WHEN DO INJURED PLAYERS RETURN?
Jordie Barrett (week 3), Nehe Milner-Skudder (May), Dane Coles (June).
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@mariner4life said in Super Rugby News:
Um, super rugby started last weekend! The fuck?
Only the second tier competition
@stockcar86 said in Super Rugby News:
@mariner4life said in Super Rugby News:
Um, super rugby started last weekend! The fuck?
Only the second tier competition
Aren't Aus teams starting this weekend? The directive from Cameron Clyne, is to target one NZ scalp this season.
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Handy overview of the current state of the NZ Super Rugby squads below (from stuff). Please, let me know whether any players are missing from either squad list or injury list (I'll try to keep track of injuries etc during the season).
Blues
SQUAD
Forwards: Leni Apisai, Matt Moulds, James Parsons, Alex Hodgman, Sione Mafileo, Pauliasi Manu, Isaac Salmon, Mike Tamoaieta, Ofa Tu'ungafasi, Gerard Cowley-Tuioti, Josh Goodhue, Scott Scrafton, Patrick Tuipulotu, Jimmy Tupou, Blake Gibson, Akira Ioane, Jerome Kaino, Dalton Papali'i, Glenn Preston, Kara Pryor, Murphy Taramai.
Backs: Sam Nock, Augustine Puli, Jonathan Ruru, Otere Black/Daniel Kirkpatrick, Bryn Gatland, Stephen Perofeta, Matt Johnson, George Moala, Tamati Tua, TJ Faiane, Sonny Bill Williams, Caleb Clarke, Michael Collins, Matt Duffie, Rieko Ioane, Melanie Nanai, Jordan Trainor.
NEW RECRUITS
Leni Apisai, Isaac Salmon, Mike Tamoaieta, Glenn Preston, Otere Black, Daniel Kirkpatrick, Caleb Clarke.
RELEASED
Charlie Faumuina, Sam Prattley, Steven Luatua, Billy Guyton, Ihaia West, Piers Francis, Matt Vaega, Declan O'Donnell.
WHEN DO INJURED PLAYERS RETURN?*
Blake Gibson (shoulder - undetermined), Otere Black (knee - undetermined, may miss entire season), Stephen Perofeta (hand, week 5-6), Dalton Papali'i (hand - week 6), Kara Pryor (ankle, week 3-4), Matt Moulds (knee, ?), TJ Faiane (calf), Jerome Kaino (ankle), Isaac Salmon (elbow), Jimmy Tupou (rib), Sione Mafileo (knee)
*updated list
Chiefs
SQUAD
Forwards: Kane Hames, Mitchell Graham, Aidan Ross, Nepo Laulala, Atu Moli, Sefo Kautai, Nathan Harris, Samisoni Taukei'aho, Liam Polwart, Brodie Retallick, Dominic Bird, Michael Allardice, Fin Hoeata, Taleni Seu, Mitchell Brown, Tyler Ardron, Liam Messam, Luke Jacobson, Sam Cane, Mitchell Karpik, Lachlan Boshier.
Backs: Brad Weber, Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi, Jonathan Taumateine, Damian McKenzie, Tiaan Falcon, Marty McKenzie, Charlie Ngatai, Anton Lienert-Brown, Johnny Fa'auli, Alex Nankivell, Regan Verney, Sam McNicol, Solomon Alaimalo, Tim Nanai-Williams, Toni Pulu, Shaun Stevenson, Levi Aumua.
NEW RECRUITS
Fin Hoeata, Tyler Ardron, Luke Jacobson, Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi, Tiaan Falcon, Marty McKenzie, Regan Verney, Levi Aumua.
RELEASED
Siegfried Fisi'ihoi, Hika Elliot, Brayden Mitchell, Sebastian Siataga, James Tucker, Tom Sanders, Michael Leitch, Finlay Christie, Tawera Kerr-Barlow, Aaron Cruden, Stephen Donald, Glen Fisiiahi, James Lowe, Chase Tiatia.
WHEN DO INJURED PLAYERS RETURN?
Mitchell Graham (March), Sefo Kautai (March), Sam McNicol (indefinite), Tim Nanai-Williams (indefinite).
Crusaders
SQUAD
Forwards: Ben Funnell, Andrew Makalio, Codie Taylor, Mike Alaalatoa, Wyatt Crockett, Owen Franks, Oliver Jager, Joe Moody, Tim Perry, Scott Barrett, Mitchell Dunshea, Luke Romano, Quinten Strange, Sam Whitelock, Ethan Blackadder, Billy Harmon, Kieran Read, Tom Sanders, Pete Samu, Jordan Taufua, Matt Todd.
Backs: Mitchell Drummond, Bryn Hall, Jack Stratton, Mike Delany, Mitchell Hunt, Richie Mo'unga, Tim Bateman, Ryan Crotty, Jack Goodhue, Braydon Ennor, George Bridge, Israel Dagg, David Havili, Will Jordan, Jone Macilai, Manasa Mataele, Seta Tamanivalu.
NEW RECRUITS
Ethan Blackadder, Mike Delany, Braydon Ennor, Billy Harmon, Will Jordan, Tom Sanders, Jack Stratton.
RELEASED
Jed Brown, Whetu Douglas, Sione Fifita, Vernon Fredericks, Leon Fukofuka, Digby Ioane, Marty McKenzie, Sean Wainui.
- Heiden Bedwell-Curtis was not included in the original squad but has been called-in to provide cover in the back row, until Kieran Read returns from injury.
WHEN DO INJURED PLAYERS RETURN?
Kieran Read (mid-April), Owen Franks (mid-April), Joe Moody (mid-April), Israel Dagg (mid-April), Tim Perry (late-February), Tom Sanders (April).
Highlanders
SQUAD
Forwards: Luke Whitelock, Liam Squire, Elliot Dixon, Shannon Frizell, Dillon Hunt, James Lentjes, Dan Pryor, Alex Ainley, Tom Franklin, Jackson Hemopo, Josh Dickson, Pari Pari Parkinson, Kalolo Tuiloma, Siate Tokolahi, Daniel Lienert-Brown, Tyrel Lomax, Aki Seiuli, Guy Millar, Ash Dixon (cc), Greg Pleasants-Tate, Liam Coltman.
Backs: Ben Smith (cc), Josh McKay, Tevita Li, Waisake Naholo, Tevita Nabura, Thomas Umaga-Jensen, Richard Buckman, Sio Tomkinson, Matt Faddes, Rob Thompson, Tei Walden, Lima Sopoaga, Fletcher Smith, Josh Ioane, Josh Renton, Kayne Hammington, Aaron Smith.
NEW RECRUITS
Josh McKay, Tevita Nabura, Thomas Umaga-Jensen, Josh Ioane, Shannon Frizell, Pari Pari Parkinson, Kalolo Tuiloma, Tyrel Lomax
The article should have included Marino Mikaele-Tu'u in this list, who has been signed by the Landers.
RELEASED
Shane Christie, Marty Banks, Siosuia Halanukonuka, Malakai Fekitoa, Craig Millar, Joe Wheeler, Gareth Evans, Hayden Parker, Patrick Osborne, Jason Emery.
- Midfielder Terrence Hepetema was not included in the original squad but is providing injury cover for Thomas Umaga-Jensen.
WHEN DO INJURED PLAYERS RETURN?
James Lentjes (April), Thomas Umaga-Jensen (May), Richard Buckman (neck injury will be reassessed in three weeks)
Hurricanes
SQUAD
Forwards: Gareth Evans, Blade Thomson, Ardie Savea, Sam Henwood, Brad Shields, Reed Prinsep, Vaea Fifita, Sam Lousi, Michael Fatialofa, James Blackwell, Murray Douglas, Jeff To'omaga-Allen, Alex Fidow, Ben May, Chris Eves, Toby Smith, Dane Coles, Asafo Aumua, Ricky Riccitelli, James O'Reilly
Backs: Jordie Barrett, Nehe Milner-Skudder, Ben Lam, Wes Goosen, Jonah Lowe, Julian Savea, Peter Umaga-Jensen, Vince Aso, Matt Proctor, Ngani Laumape, Ihaia West, Jackson Garden-Bachop, Beauden Barrett, TJ Perenara, Jamie Booth, Finlay Christie.
NEW RECRUITS
Sam Henwood, Gareth Evans, Ihaia West, Jackson Garden-Bachop, Jamie Booth, Finlay Christie, Alex Fidow, Asafo Aumua, Toby Smith, Murray Douglas, Jonah Lowe.
RELEASED
Cory Jane, Reggie Goodes, Mark Abbott, Callum Gibbins, Loni Uhila, Leni Apisai, Mike Kainga, Toa Halafihi, Hugh Renton, Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi, Kylem O'Donnell, Otere Black.
WHEN DO INJURED PLAYERS RETURN?
Jordie Barrett (week 3), Nehe Milner-Skudder (May), Dane Coles (June).
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@stockcar86 said in Super Rugby News:
@mariner4life said in Super Rugby News:
Um, super rugby started last weekend! The fuck?
Only the second tier competition
Aren't Aus teams starting this weekend? The directive from Cameron Clyne, is to target one NZ scalp this season.
@pn said in Super Rugby News:
@stockcar86 said in Super Rugby News:
@mariner4life said in Super Rugby News:
Um, super rugby started last weekend! The fuck?
Only the second tier competition
Aren't Aus teams starting this weekend? The directive from Cameron Clyne, is to target one NZ scalp this season.
Each? Or is that a combined KPI?
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@pn said in Super Rugby News:
@stockcar86 said in Super Rugby News:
@mariner4life said in Super Rugby News:
Um, super rugby started last weekend! The fuck?
Only the second tier competition
Aren't Aus teams starting this weekend? The directive from Cameron Clyne, is to target one NZ scalp this season.
Each? Or is that a combined KPI?
@crucial said in Super Rugby News:
@pn said in Super Rugby News:
@stockcar86 said in Super Rugby News:
@mariner4life said in Super Rugby News:
Um, super rugby started last weekend! The fuck?
Only the second tier competition
Aren't Aus teams starting this weekend? The directive from Cameron Clyne, is to target one NZ scalp this season.
Each? Or is that a combined KPI?
1/25 would be miles better than last season's clean sweep, so I can only assume it's a combined KPI, will need to clarify over Twitter.
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@crucial said in Super Rugby News:
@pn said in Super Rugby News:
@stockcar86 said in Super Rugby News:
@mariner4life said in Super Rugby News:
Um, super rugby started last weekend! The fuck?
Only the second tier competition
Aren't Aus teams starting this weekend? The directive from Cameron Clyne, is to target one NZ scalp this season.
Each? Or is that a combined KPI?
1/25 would be miles better than last season's clean sweep, so I can only assume it's a combined KPI, will need to clarify over Twitter.
@pn said in Super Rugby News:
@crucial said in Super Rugby News:
@pn said in Super Rugby News:
@stockcar86 said in Super Rugby News:
@mariner4life said in Super Rugby News:
Um, super rugby started last weekend! The fuck?
Only the second tier competition
Aren't Aus teams starting this weekend? The directive from Cameron Clyne, is to target one NZ scalp this season.
Each? Or is that a combined KPI?
1/25 would be miles better than last season's clean sweep, so I can only assume it's a combined KPI
Winning!
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@stargazer you may need to update the Blues injury list. They are up to 11 now.
@kiwimurph said in Super Rugby News:
@stargazer you may need to update the Blues injury list. They are up to 11 now.
I will, if someone gives me all the names
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@kiwimurph said in Super Rugby News:
@stargazer you may need to update the Blues injury list. They are up to 11 now.
I will, if someone gives me all the names
@stargazer ha can do
Players not considered because of injury: Otere Black (knee), Blake Gibson (shoulder), Matt Moulds (knee), Dalton Papalii (hand), Stephen Perofeta (hand), Kara Pryor (ankle), TJ Faiane (calf), Jerome Kaino (ankle), Isaac Salmon (elbow), Jimmy Tupou (rib), Sione Mafileo (knee).
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looking at that Chiefs roster, not only could i not pick the vast majority of them out of a line-up, i don't even know roughly what positions they play.
Any chance someone could pick out a best 23 for me?
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looking at that Chiefs roster, not only could i not pick the vast majority of them out of a line-up, i don't even know roughly what positions they play.
Any chance someone could pick out a best 23 for me?
@mariner4life I'll give it a crack. I may be off a player or two but here is a general idea
1 Hames 2 Harris 3 Laulala 4 Retallick 5 Bird 6 Taleni Seu 7 Sam Cane 8 Liam Messam 9 Weber 10 DMac 11 Alaimalo 12 Ngatai 13 ALB 14 Stevenson 15 TNW
16 Taukei'aho 17 Moli 18 Graham 19 Allardice 20 Brown/Jacobson 21 TTT 22 McKenzie 23 McNicol
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@mariner4life I'll give it a crack. I may be off a player or two but here is a general idea
1 Hames 2 Harris 3 Laulala 4 Retallick 5 Bird 6 Taleni Seu 7 Sam Cane 8 Liam Messam 9 Weber 10 DMac 11 Alaimalo 12 Ngatai 13 ALB 14 Stevenson 15 TNW
16 Taukei'aho 17 Moli 18 Graham 19 Allardice 20 Brown/Jacobson 21 TTT 22 McKenzie 23 McNicol
@kiwimurph cheers. it appears we are fucked. Messam is still in our best loosie mix, in his 2nd position (love you Liam, you my boy, but you should be in that veteran mentor role now). TNW is a starter? at FB? Dmac is out 10? shiiiiit
Good tight 5 though, if Harris learns to hit a lineout.
