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  • Stockcar86S Stockcar86

    @mariner4life said in Super Rugby News:

    Um, super rugby started last weekend! The fuck?

    Only the second tier competition

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    @stockcar86 said in Super Rugby News:

    @mariner4life said in Super Rugby News:

    Um, super rugby started last weekend! The fuck?

    Only the second tier competition

    Aren't Aus teams starting this weekend? The directive from Cameron Clyne, is to target one NZ scalp this season.

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    • StargazerS Stargazer

      Handy overview of the current state of the NZ Super Rugby squads below (from stuff). Please, let me know whether any players are missing from either squad list or injury list (I'll try to keep track of injuries etc during the season).

      Blues

      SQUAD

      Forwards: Leni Apisai, Matt Moulds, James Parsons, Alex Hodgman, Sione Mafileo, Pauliasi Manu, Isaac Salmon, Mike Tamoaieta, Ofa Tu'ungafasi, Gerard Cowley-Tuioti, Josh Goodhue, Scott Scrafton, Patrick Tuipulotu, Jimmy Tupou, Blake Gibson, Akira Ioane, Jerome Kaino, Dalton Papali'i, Glenn Preston, Kara Pryor, Murphy Taramai.

      Backs: Sam Nock, Augustine Puli, Jonathan Ruru, Otere Black/Daniel Kirkpatrick, Bryn Gatland, Stephen Perofeta, Matt Johnson, George Moala, Tamati Tua, TJ Faiane, Sonny Bill Williams, Caleb Clarke, Michael Collins, Matt Duffie, Rieko Ioane, Melanie Nanai, Jordan Trainor.

      NEW RECRUITS

      Leni Apisai, Isaac Salmon, Mike Tamoaieta, Glenn Preston, Otere Black, Daniel Kirkpatrick, Caleb Clarke.

      RELEASED

      Charlie Faumuina, Sam Prattley, Steven Luatua, Billy Guyton, Ihaia West, Piers Francis, Matt Vaega, Declan O'Donnell.

      WHEN DO INJURED PLAYERS RETURN?*

      Blake Gibson (shoulder - undetermined), Otere Black (knee - undetermined, may miss entire season), Stephen Perofeta (hand, week 5-6), Dalton Papali'i (hand - week 6), Kara Pryor (ankle, week 3-4), Matt Moulds (knee, ?), TJ Faiane (calf), Jerome Kaino (ankle), Isaac Salmon (elbow), Jimmy Tupou (rib), Sione Mafileo (knee)

      *updated list

      stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/101623999/2018-super-rugby-season-preview-will-the-blues-make-the-playoffs-this-year


      Chiefs

      SQUAD

      Forwards: Kane Hames, Mitchell Graham, Aidan Ross, Nepo Laulala, Atu Moli, Sefo Kautai, Nathan Harris, Samisoni Taukei'aho, Liam Polwart, Brodie Retallick, Dominic Bird, Michael Allardice, Fin Hoeata, Taleni Seu, Mitchell Brown, Tyler Ardron, Liam Messam, Luke Jacobson, Sam Cane, Mitchell Karpik, Lachlan Boshier.

      Backs: Brad Weber, Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi, Jonathan Taumateine, Damian McKenzie, Tiaan Falcon, Marty McKenzie, Charlie Ngatai, Anton Lienert-Brown, Johnny Fa'auli, Alex Nankivell, Regan Verney, Sam McNicol, Solomon Alaimalo, Tim Nanai-Williams, Toni Pulu, Shaun Stevenson, Levi Aumua.

      NEW RECRUITS

      Fin Hoeata, Tyler Ardron, Luke Jacobson, Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi, Tiaan Falcon, Marty McKenzie, Regan Verney, Levi Aumua.

      RELEASED

      Siegfried Fisi'ihoi, Hika Elliot, Brayden Mitchell, Sebastian Siataga, James Tucker, Tom Sanders, Michael Leitch, Finlay Christie, Tawera Kerr-Barlow, Aaron Cruden, Stephen Donald, Glen Fisiiahi, James Lowe, Chase Tiatia.

      WHEN DO INJURED PLAYERS RETURN?

      Mitchell Graham (March), Sefo Kautai (March), Sam McNicol (indefinite), Tim Nanai-Williams (indefinite).

      stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/101623361/2018-super-rugby-season-preview-will-the-chiefs-be-a-force-under-colin-cooper


      Crusaders

      SQUAD

      Forwards: Ben Funnell, Andrew Makalio, Codie Taylor, Mike Alaalatoa, Wyatt Crockett, Owen Franks, Oliver Jager, Joe Moody, Tim Perry, Scott Barrett, Mitchell Dunshea, Luke Romano, Quinten Strange, Sam Whitelock, Ethan Blackadder, Billy Harmon, Kieran Read, Tom Sanders, Pete Samu, Jordan Taufua, Matt Todd.

      Backs: Mitchell Drummond, Bryn Hall, Jack Stratton, Mike Delany, Mitchell Hunt, Richie Mo'unga, Tim Bateman, Ryan Crotty, Jack Goodhue, Braydon Ennor, George Bridge, Israel Dagg, David Havili, Will Jordan, Jone Macilai, Manasa Mataele, Seta Tamanivalu.

      NEW RECRUITS

      Ethan Blackadder, Mike Delany, Braydon Ennor, Billy Harmon, Will Jordan, Tom Sanders, Jack Stratton.

      RELEASED

      Jed Brown, Whetu Douglas, Sione Fifita, Vernon Fredericks, Leon Fukofuka, Digby Ioane, Marty McKenzie, Sean Wainui.

      • Heiden Bedwell-Curtis was not included in the original squad but has been called-in to provide cover in the back row, until Kieran Read returns from injury.

      WHEN DO INJURED PLAYERS RETURN?

      Kieran Read (mid-April), Owen Franks (mid-April), Joe Moody (mid-April), Israel Dagg (mid-April), Tim Perry (late-February), Tom Sanders (April).

      stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/101622291/2018-super-rugby-season-preview-can-the-crusaders-defend-their-title


      Highlanders

      SQUAD

      Forwards: Luke Whitelock, Liam Squire, Elliot Dixon, Shannon Frizell, Dillon Hunt, James Lentjes, Dan Pryor, Alex Ainley, Tom Franklin, Jackson Hemopo, Josh Dickson, Pari Pari Parkinson, Kalolo Tuiloma, Siate Tokolahi, Daniel Lienert-Brown, Tyrel Lomax, Aki Seiuli, Guy Millar, Ash Dixon (cc), Greg Pleasants-Tate, Liam Coltman.

      Backs: Ben Smith (cc), Josh McKay, Tevita Li, Waisake Naholo, Tevita Nabura, Thomas Umaga-Jensen, Richard Buckman, Sio Tomkinson, Matt Faddes, Rob Thompson, Tei Walden, Lima Sopoaga, Fletcher Smith, Josh Ioane, Josh Renton, Kayne Hammington, Aaron Smith.

      NEW RECRUITS

      Josh McKay, Tevita Nabura, Thomas Umaga-Jensen, Josh Ioane, Shannon Frizell, Pari Pari Parkinson, Kalolo Tuiloma, Tyrel Lomax

      The article should have included Marino Mikaele-Tu'u in this list, who has been signed by the Landers.

      RELEASED

      Shane Christie, Marty Banks, Siosuia Halanukonuka, Malakai Fekitoa, Craig Millar, Joe Wheeler, Gareth Evans, Hayden Parker, Patrick Osborne, Jason Emery.

      • Midfielder Terrence Hepetema was not included in the original squad but is providing injury cover for Thomas Umaga-Jensen.

      WHEN DO INJURED PLAYERS RETURN?

      James Lentjes (April), Thomas Umaga-Jensen (May), Richard Buckman (neck injury will be reassessed in three weeks)

      stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/101623915/2018-super-rugby-season-preview-how-will-the-highlanders-fare-this-year


      Hurricanes

      SQUAD

      Forwards: Gareth Evans, Blade Thomson, Ardie Savea, Sam Henwood, Brad Shields, Reed Prinsep, Vaea Fifita, Sam Lousi, Michael Fatialofa, James Blackwell, Murray Douglas, Jeff To'omaga-Allen, Alex Fidow, Ben May, Chris Eves, Toby Smith, Dane Coles, Asafo Aumua, Ricky Riccitelli, James O'Reilly

      Backs: Jordie Barrett, Nehe Milner-Skudder, Ben Lam, Wes Goosen, Jonah Lowe, Julian Savea, Peter Umaga-Jensen, Vince Aso, Matt Proctor, Ngani Laumape, Ihaia West, Jackson Garden-Bachop, Beauden Barrett, TJ Perenara, Jamie Booth, Finlay Christie.

      NEW RECRUITS

      Sam Henwood, Gareth Evans, Ihaia West, Jackson Garden-Bachop, Jamie Booth, Finlay Christie, Alex Fidow, Asafo Aumua, Toby Smith, Murray Douglas, Jonah Lowe.

      RELEASED

      Cory Jane, Reggie Goodes, Mark Abbott, Callum Gibbins, Loni Uhila, Leni Apisai, Mike Kainga, Toa Halafihi, Hugh Renton, Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi, Kylem O'Donnell, Otere Black.

      WHEN DO INJURED PLAYERS RETURN?

      Jordie Barrett (week 3), Nehe Milner-Skudder (May), Dane Coles (June).

      stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/101623617/2018-super-rugby-season-preview-can-beauden-barrett-lead-the-hurricanes-to-glory

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      @stargazer you may need to update the Blues injury list. They are up to 11 now.

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      • PNP PN

        @stockcar86 said in Super Rugby News:

        @mariner4life said in Super Rugby News:

        Um, super rugby started last weekend! The fuck?

        Only the second tier competition

        Aren't Aus teams starting this weekend? The directive from Cameron Clyne, is to target one NZ scalp this season.

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        @pn said in Super Rugby News:

        @stockcar86 said in Super Rugby News:

        @mariner4life said in Super Rugby News:

        Um, super rugby started last weekend! The fuck?

        Only the second tier competition

        Aren't Aus teams starting this weekend? The directive from Cameron Clyne, is to target one NZ scalp this season.

        Each? Or is that a combined KPI?

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        • CrucialC Crucial

          @pn said in Super Rugby News:

          @stockcar86 said in Super Rugby News:

          @mariner4life said in Super Rugby News:

          Um, super rugby started last weekend! The fuck?

          Only the second tier competition

          Aren't Aus teams starting this weekend? The directive from Cameron Clyne, is to target one NZ scalp this season.

          Each? Or is that a combined KPI?

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          #3004

          @crucial said in Super Rugby News:

          @pn said in Super Rugby News:

          @stockcar86 said in Super Rugby News:

          @mariner4life said in Super Rugby News:

          Um, super rugby started last weekend! The fuck?

          Only the second tier competition

          Aren't Aus teams starting this weekend? The directive from Cameron Clyne, is to target one NZ scalp this season.

          Each? Or is that a combined KPI?

          1/25 would be miles better than last season's clean sweep, so I can only assume it's a combined KPI, will need to clarify over Twitter.

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          • PNP PN

            @crucial said in Super Rugby News:

            @pn said in Super Rugby News:

            @stockcar86 said in Super Rugby News:

            @mariner4life said in Super Rugby News:

            Um, super rugby started last weekend! The fuck?

            Only the second tier competition

            Aren't Aus teams starting this weekend? The directive from Cameron Clyne, is to target one NZ scalp this season.

            Each? Or is that a combined KPI?

            1/25 would be miles better than last season's clean sweep, so I can only assume it's a combined KPI, will need to clarify over Twitter.

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            @pn said in Super Rugby News:

            @crucial said in Super Rugby News:

            @pn said in Super Rugby News:

            @stockcar86 said in Super Rugby News:

            @mariner4life said in Super Rugby News:

            Um, super rugby started last weekend! The fuck?

            Only the second tier competition

            Aren't Aus teams starting this weekend? The directive from Cameron Clyne, is to target one NZ scalp this season.

            Each? Or is that a combined KPI?

            1/25 would be miles better than last season's clean sweep, so I can only assume it's a combined KPI

            Winning!

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            • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

              @stargazer you may need to update the Blues injury list. They are up to 11 now.

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              @kiwimurph said in Super Rugby News:

              @stargazer you may need to update the Blues injury list. They are up to 11 now.

              I will, if someone gives me all the names 😉

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              • StargazerS Stargazer

                @kiwimurph said in Super Rugby News:

                @stargazer you may need to update the Blues injury list. They are up to 11 now.

                I will, if someone gives me all the names 😉

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                @stargazer ha can do

                Players not considered because of injury: Otere Black (knee), Blake Gibson (shoulder), Matt Moulds (knee), Dalton Papalii (hand), Stephen Perofeta (hand), Kara Pryor (ankle), TJ Faiane (calf), Jerome Kaino (ankle), Isaac Salmon (elbow), Jimmy Tupou (rib), Sione Mafileo (knee).

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                  looking at that Chiefs roster, not only could i not pick the vast majority of them out of a line-up, i don't even know roughly what positions they play.

                  Any chance someone could pick out a best 23 for me?

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                  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                    looking at that Chiefs roster, not only could i not pick the vast majority of them out of a line-up, i don't even know roughly what positions they play.

                    Any chance someone could pick out a best 23 for me?

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                    @mariner4life I'll give it a crack. I may be off a player or two but here is a general idea

                    1 Hames 2 Harris 3 Laulala 4 Retallick 5 Bird 6 Taleni Seu 7 Sam Cane 8 Liam Messam 9 Weber 10 DMac 11 Alaimalo 12 Ngatai 13 ALB 14 Stevenson 15 TNW

                    16 Taukei'aho 17 Moli 18 Graham 19 Allardice 20 Brown/Jacobson 21 TTT 22 McKenzie 23 McNicol

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                    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                      @mariner4life I'll give it a crack. I may be off a player or two but here is a general idea

                      1 Hames 2 Harris 3 Laulala 4 Retallick 5 Bird 6 Taleni Seu 7 Sam Cane 8 Liam Messam 9 Weber 10 DMac 11 Alaimalo 12 Ngatai 13 ALB 14 Stevenson 15 TNW

                      16 Taukei'aho 17 Moli 18 Graham 19 Allardice 20 Brown/Jacobson 21 TTT 22 McKenzie 23 McNicol

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                      @kiwimurph cheers. it appears we are fucked. Messam is still in our best loosie mix, in his 2nd position (love you Liam, you my boy, but you should be in that veteran mentor role now). TNW is a starter? at FB? Dmac is out 10? shiiiiit

                      Good tight 5 though, if Harris learns to hit a lineout.

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                      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                        @kiwimurph cheers. it appears we are fucked. Messam is still in our best loosie mix, in his 2nd position (love you Liam, you my boy, but you should be in that veteran mentor role now). TNW is a starter? at FB? Dmac is out 10? shiiiiit

                        Good tight 5 though, if Harris learns to hit a lineout.

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                        @mariner4life actually I think TNW is out with an injury he picked up at the 10s so scratch that.

                        I'd expect Luke Jacobson (6/8) to work his way into the starting loose forward mix sooner rather than later - he is from NZ U20s and very promising but he'll probably be eased in like most youngsters.

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                        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                          @kiwimurph cheers. it appears we are fucked. Messam is still in our best loosie mix, in his 2nd position (love you Liam, you my boy, but you should be in that veteran mentor role now). TNW is a starter? at FB? Dmac is out 10? shiiiiit

                          Good tight 5 though, if Harris learns to hit a lineout.

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                          @mariner4life Despite Liam's ageing, it's a more than handy pack. Best lock and loose forward in the world with able assistants.

                          The problem is DMac needs to learn how to be a five-eighth. His Super Rugby fullback style of play will not transfer well.

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                          • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                            @mariner4life I'll give it a crack. I may be off a player or two but here is a general idea

                            1 Hames 2 Harris 3 Laulala 4 Retallick 5 Bird 6 Taleni Seu 7 Sam Cane 8 Liam Messam 9 Weber 10 DMac 11 Alaimalo 12 Ngatai 13 ALB 14 Stevenson 15 TNW

                            16 Taukei'aho 17 Moli 18 Graham 19 Allardice 20 Brown/Jacobson 21 TTT 22 McKenzie 23 McNicol

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                            @kiwimurph That's a decent looking team which will be decimated by injuries in a couple of weeks and will look like:

                            1. Reserve prop from Naki, 2. Harris, 3. Prop from Naki club rugby, 4. Retallick, 5. one of the flankers moved to lock, 6. Canadian flanker, 7. Cane, 8. Jacobson, 9. TTT, 10. Marty Mac, 11. A wing from the Naki, 12. ALB, 13. Sean Wainui, 14. Aumua (not the new AB hooker), 15. Falcon.
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                            • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                              @mariner4life I'll give it a crack. I may be off a player or two but here is a general idea

                              1 Hames 2 Harris 3 Laulala 4 Retallick 5 Bird 6 Taleni Seu 7 Sam Cane 8 Liam Messam 9 Weber 10 DMac 11 Alaimalo 12 Ngatai 13 ALB 14 Stevenson 15 TNW

                              16 Taukei'aho 17 Moli 18 Graham 19 Allardice 20 Brown/Jacobson 21 TTT 22 McKenzie 23 McNicol

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                              This would be my 23 (suggestions on who Cooper and co may select):

                              1. Hames

                              2. Harris

                              3. Laulala

                              4. Retallick

                              5. Bird

                              6. Brown/Messam

                              7. Cane

                              8. Messam/Brown (could be Seu or Ardron)

                              9. Weber

                              10. DMac

                              11. Alaimalo

                              12. Ngatai

                              13. ALB

                              14. Pulu (TNW when fit)

                              15. Stevenson

                              16. Taukei'aho (they will pick Polwart, whose lineout throwing is crap)

                              17. Graham (Ross until then)

                              18. Moli

                              19. Seu

                              20. Boshier

                              21. TTT

                              22. Falcon

                              23. An outside back - Pulu, MMac or Aumua

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                              • NepiaN Nepia

                                @kiwimurph That's a decent looking team which will be decimated by injuries in a couple of weeks and will look like:

                                1. Reserve prop from Naki, 2. Harris, 3. Prop from Naki club rugby, 4. Retallick, 5. one of the flankers moved to lock, 6. Canadian flanker, 7. Cane, 8. Jacobson, 9. TTT, 10. Marty Mac, 11. A wing from the Naki, 12. ALB, 13. Sean Wainui, 14. Aumua (not the new AB hooker), 15. Falcon.
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                                @nepia Gives hope to Blues supporters

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                                • Stockcar86S Stockcar86

                                  @mariner4life said in Super Rugby News:

                                  Um, super rugby started last weekend! The fuck?

                                  Only the second tier competition

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                                  @stockcar86 said in Super Rugby News:

                                  @mariner4life said in Super Rugby News:

                                  Um, super rugby started last weekend! The fuck?

                                  Only the second tier competition

                                  alt text

                                  Regards,
                                  Lions Supporters

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                                  • antipodeanA antipodean

                                    I'm happy to see two packs at it like that. The pain in their legs. Means when the ball comes out for a phase or two there's more room.

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                                    @antipodean said in Super Rugby News:

                                    I'm happy to see two packs at it like that. The pain in their legs. Means when the ball comes out for a phase or two there's more room.

                                    This. Contest at scrum time. As long as they're not scrumming fo penalties.

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                                    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                      looking at that Chiefs roster, not only could i not pick the vast majority of them out of a line-up, i don't even know roughly what positions they play.

                                      Any chance someone could pick out a best 23 for me?

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                                      @mariner4life said in Super Rugby News:

                                      looking at that Chiefs roster, not only could i not pick the vast majority of them out of a line-up, i don't even know roughly what positions they play.

                                      Any chance someone could pick out a best 23 for me?

                                      This was pretty funny followed by a post containing a team chock full of internationals. I thought you were either NTA or Mn5.

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                                      • NepiaN Nepia

                                        @kiwimurph That's a decent looking team which will be decimated by injuries in a couple of weeks and will look like:

                                        1. Reserve prop from Naki, 2. Harris, 3. Prop from Naki club rugby, 4. Retallick, 5. one of the flankers moved to lock, 6. Canadian flanker, 7. Cane, 8. Jacobson, 9. TTT, 10. Marty Mac, 11. A wing from the Naki, 12. ALB, 13. Sean Wainui, 14. Aumua (not the new AB hooker), 15. Falcon.
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                                        @nepia said in Super Rugby News:

                                        @kiwimurph That's a decent looking team which will be decimated by injuries in a couple of weeks and will look like:
                                        2. Harris

                                        You think Harris is going to last a couple of weeks? Cute.

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                                        • MilkM Milk

                                          @nepia said in Super Rugby News:

                                          @kiwimurph That's a decent looking team which will be decimated by injuries in a couple of weeks and will look like:
                                          2. Harris

                                          You think Harris is going to last a couple of weeks? Cute.

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                                          @milk said in Super Rugby News:

                                          @nepia said in Super Rugby News:

                                          @kiwimurph That's a decent looking team which will be decimated by injuries in a couple of weeks and will look like:
                                          2. Harris

                                          You think Harris is going to last a couple of weeks? Cute.

                                          I wanted to keep the BoP boy in there since M4L was the one who originally asked.

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