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AB Positions up for grabs

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  • Chris B.C Chris B.

    Very cool letter and a classy way to go.

    Wyatt's always been a master of timing - 71 test caps and only three losses (two last year)!

    Will look forward to seeing him at the Mako - should be a very handy acquisition and replacement for Hames!

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    @chris-b said in AB Positions up for grabs:

    Will look forward to seeing him at the Mako

    Crockett, Hames, Perry, Halanukonuka, Salmon & Lomax?

    Or have some of those guys left?

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    • DuluthD Duluth

      @chris-b said in AB Positions up for grabs:

      Will look forward to seeing him at the Mako

      Crockett, Hames, Perry, Halanukonuka, Salmon & Lomax?

      Or have some of those guys left?

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      @duluth Halanukonuka has gone. Pretty doubtful we'll see anything of Hames.

      There was talk that Ross Geldenhuys might also be back this year.

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        https://www.facebook.com/crusadersrugby/videos/10156271954627147/?sk=h_chr

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        • Billy TellB Billy Tell

          @smudge said in AB Positions up for grabs:

          @gunner said in AB Positions up for grabs:

          @jaycee said in AB Positions up for grabs:

          Another spot up for grabs with Crockett's retirement:
          https://www.rugbypass.com/news/open-letter-wyatt-crockett

          The couple of reports I’ve read don’t mention if the international retirement is with immediate effect, or after this season.

          Anyone got any more info?

          This quote suggests to me that the international retirement is immediate, but it's not 100% clear:

          Early in the New Year I made a call to All Blacks coach Steve Hansen and informed him of my decision to make myself unavailable for national selection.
          

          Good move by Wyatt. Leaving on his terms. He showed great courage to come back from "Rome-gate", thanks Stuart Dickinson. I think he might have been pushed if he hadn't jumped, but he has given great service to province and country.

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          @billy-tell said in AB Positions up for grabs:

          Good move by Wyatt. Leaving on his terms. He showed great courage to come back from "Rome-gate", thanks Stuart Dickinson.

          Agreed. That could have ended the career of a lesser person. Thankfully it didn't. I was always critical of what seemed to be Wyatt's propensity to give away a needless penalty, but he's been a dependable rock in the pack for a long time now.

          Nice of him to step aside with enough time for the coaches to further develop the younger guys coming through.

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          • antipodeanA antipodean

            @billy-tell said in AB Positions up for grabs:

            Good move by Wyatt. Leaving on his terms. He showed great courage to come back from "Rome-gate", thanks Stuart Dickinson.

            Agreed. That could have ended the career of a lesser person. Thankfully it didn't. I was always critical of what seemed to be Wyatt's propensity to give away a needless penalty, but he's been a dependable rock in the pack for a long time now.

            Nice of him to step aside with enough time for the coaches to further develop the younger guys coming through.

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            I always liked Wyatt because he has the best name in rugby, but for me his partnership with Charlie F, coming off the bench together with 20-30 to go, was a massive weapon for the ABs and one that they haven't yet managed to replicate.

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            • MilkM Milk

              Jeez, before he fought his way back to being an All Black regular, that's not exactly an illustrious group of All Blacks on the bottom left...

              https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/968208917451874304

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              @milk said in AB Positions up for grabs:

              Jeez, before he fought his way back to being an All Black regular, that's not exactly an illustrious group of All Blacks on the bottom left...

              https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/968208917451874304

              Who's the guy middle right with his hand on Crockett's knee?

              Can't for the life of me remember his name.
              Cheers

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              • RoninWCR RoninWC

                @milk said in AB Positions up for grabs:

                Jeez, before he fought his way back to being an All Black regular, that's not exactly an illustrious group of All Blacks on the bottom left...

                https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/968208917451874304

                Who's the guy middle right with his hand on Crockett's knee?

                Can't for the life of me remember his name.
                Cheers

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                @roninwc

                Looks like Masaga

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                • DuluthD Duluth

                  @roninwc

                  Looks like Masaga

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                  @duluth said in AB Positions up for grabs:

                  @roninwc

                  Looks like Masaga

                  Yep, it's Hungus. Interesting pic they chose, 71 test AB with very few test ABs.

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                  • NepiaN Nepia

                    @duluth said in AB Positions up for grabs:

                    @roninwc

                    Looks like Masaga

                    Yep, it's Hungus. Interesting pic they chose, 71 test AB with very few test ABs.

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                    @nepia said in AB Positions up for grabs:

                    Interesting pic they chose, 71 test AB with very few test ABs.

                    First cap. Those four plus Owen Franks were all on debut against Italy in 2009

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                    • DuluthD Duluth

                      @roninwc

                      Looks like Masaga

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                      @duluth said in AB Positions up for grabs:

                      @roninwc

                      Looks like Masaga

                      Yup, from left to right: Aled De Melmanche, George Whitelock, Lelia Masaga and Wyatt Crockett

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                        Thought I would put this here.

                        Akira really did catch the eye in the Blues first game. Be interesting if he can back it up this Friday.

                        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/opinion/101837946/the-signs-are-good-for-akira-ioane-the-blues-and-all-blacks

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                          It's surely a question of when rather than if for Akira.

                          Worth remembering that the AB selectors purposely held back from selecting Kieran Read - he didn't play his first test until he was 23, so Akira is still well on schedule.

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                          • Chris B.C Chris B.

                            It's surely a question of when rather than if for Akira.

                            Worth remembering that the AB selectors purposely held back from selecting Kieran Read - he didn't play his first test until he was 23, so Akira is still well on schedule.

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                            @chris-b Yep, 22 is very young for an All Black six or eight, and this is only his second season playing XVs full time (rather than playing NZ Sevens too).

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                            • C cgrant

                              Gatland and Schmidt are both very good coaches. With all the NZ talents available, they should be able to maintain the AB at the highest level.

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                              @cgrant

                              Dont you thik that the best NZ coaches now are all overseas? Umaga, Boyd (soon gone), Cooper, Mauger, robertson dont actually measure up to Schmidt, Gatland, Rennie, Cotter in my eyes

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                                @cgrant

                                Dont you thik that the best NZ coaches now are all overseas? Umaga, Boyd (soon gone), Cooper, Mauger, robertson dont actually measure up to Schmidt, Gatland, Rennie, Cotter in my eyes

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                                @dagrubster but where did those coaches cut their teeth before going overseas?

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                                  @cgrant

                                  Dont you thik that the best NZ coaches now are all overseas? Umaga, Boyd (soon gone), Cooper, Mauger, robertson dont actually measure up to Schmidt, Gatland, Rennie, Cotter in my eyes

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                                  @dagrubster said in AB Positions up for grabs:

                                  @cgrant

                                  Dont you thik that the best NZ coaches now are all overseas? Umaga, Boyd (soon gone), Cooper, Mauger, robertson dont actually measure up to Schmidt, Gatland, Rennie, Cotter in my eyes

                                  Pretty harsh on Razor, his record suggests otherwise.

                                  He Brad Mooar are 2 of the most exciting young coaches I've seen in years.

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                                  • D DaGrubster

                                    @cgrant

                                    Dont you thik that the best NZ coaches now are all overseas? Umaga, Boyd (soon gone), Cooper, Mauger, robertson dont actually measure up to Schmidt, Gatland, Rennie, Cotter in my eyes

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                                    @dagrubster He might be young but Robertson has done nothing but win so far (Canterbury, NZU20s, Crusaders).

                                    Also Plumtree seems to be the real coach behind the Canes rather than Boyd.

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                                    • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                      @dagrubster but where did those coaches cut their teeth before going overseas?

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                                      @taniwharugby

                                      NZ of course, but that is not the question. Where are the top 3 NZ club/franchis coaches currently based in the world?

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                                      • SammyCS SammyC

                                        @dagrubster said in AB Positions up for grabs:

                                        @cgrant

                                        Dont you thik that the best NZ coaches now are all overseas? Umaga, Boyd (soon gone), Cooper, Mauger, robertson dont actually measure up to Schmidt, Gatland, Rennie, Cotter in my eyes

                                        Pretty harsh on Razor, his record suggests otherwise.

                                        He Brad Mooar are 2 of the most exciting young coaches I've seen in years.

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                                        @sammyc

                                        Dont think so sammy, Razor is looking a great coach but can he match the CV of Rennie, Gatland, Schmidt or Cotter? Not yet mate....

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                                        • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                          @dagrubster He might be young but Robertson has done nothing but win so far (Canterbury, NZU20s, Crusaders).

                                          Also Plumtree seems to be the real coach behind the Canes rather than Boyd.

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                                          @kiwimurph thats why they made him assistant coach Murph!

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