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AB Positions up for grabs

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  • antipodeanA antipodean

    @billy-tell said in AB Positions up for grabs:

    Good move by Wyatt. Leaving on his terms. He showed great courage to come back from "Rome-gate", thanks Stuart Dickinson.

    Agreed. That could have ended the career of a lesser person. Thankfully it didn't. I was always critical of what seemed to be Wyatt's propensity to give away a needless penalty, but he's been a dependable rock in the pack for a long time now.

    Nice of him to step aside with enough time for the coaches to further develop the younger guys coming through.

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    I always liked Wyatt because he has the best name in rugby, but for me his partnership with Charlie F, coming off the bench together with 20-30 to go, was a massive weapon for the ABs and one that they haven't yet managed to replicate.

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    • MilkM Milk

      Jeez, before he fought his way back to being an All Black regular, that's not exactly an illustrious group of All Blacks on the bottom left...

      https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/968208917451874304

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      @milk said in AB Positions up for grabs:

      Jeez, before he fought his way back to being an All Black regular, that's not exactly an illustrious group of All Blacks on the bottom left...

      https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/968208917451874304

      Who's the guy middle right with his hand on Crockett's knee?

      Can't for the life of me remember his name.
      Cheers

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      • RoninWCR RoninWC

        @milk said in AB Positions up for grabs:

        Jeez, before he fought his way back to being an All Black regular, that's not exactly an illustrious group of All Blacks on the bottom left...

        https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/968208917451874304

        Who's the guy middle right with his hand on Crockett's knee?

        Can't for the life of me remember his name.
        Cheers

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        @roninwc

        Looks like Masaga

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        • DuluthD Duluth

          @roninwc

          Looks like Masaga

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          @duluth said in AB Positions up for grabs:

          @roninwc

          Looks like Masaga

          Yep, it's Hungus. Interesting pic they chose, 71 test AB with very few test ABs.

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          • NepiaN Nepia

            @duluth said in AB Positions up for grabs:

            @roninwc

            Looks like Masaga

            Yep, it's Hungus. Interesting pic they chose, 71 test AB with very few test ABs.

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            @nepia said in AB Positions up for grabs:

            Interesting pic they chose, 71 test AB with very few test ABs.

            First cap. Those four plus Owen Franks were all on debut against Italy in 2009

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            • DuluthD Duluth

              @roninwc

              Looks like Masaga

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              @duluth said in AB Positions up for grabs:

              @roninwc

              Looks like Masaga

              Yup, from left to right: Aled De Melmanche, George Whitelock, Lelia Masaga and Wyatt Crockett

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                Thought I would put this here.

                Akira really did catch the eye in the Blues first game. Be interesting if he can back it up this Friday.

                https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/opinion/101837946/the-signs-are-good-for-akira-ioane-the-blues-and-all-blacks

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                  It's surely a question of when rather than if for Akira.

                  Worth remembering that the AB selectors purposely held back from selecting Kieran Read - he didn't play his first test until he was 23, so Akira is still well on schedule.

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                  • Chris B.C Chris B.

                    It's surely a question of when rather than if for Akira.

                    Worth remembering that the AB selectors purposely held back from selecting Kieran Read - he didn't play his first test until he was 23, so Akira is still well on schedule.

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                    @chris-b Yep, 22 is very young for an All Black six or eight, and this is only his second season playing XVs full time (rather than playing NZ Sevens too).

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                    • C cgrant

                      Gatland and Schmidt are both very good coaches. With all the NZ talents available, they should be able to maintain the AB at the highest level.

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                      @cgrant

                      Dont you thik that the best NZ coaches now are all overseas? Umaga, Boyd (soon gone), Cooper, Mauger, robertson dont actually measure up to Schmidt, Gatland, Rennie, Cotter in my eyes

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                        @cgrant

                        Dont you thik that the best NZ coaches now are all overseas? Umaga, Boyd (soon gone), Cooper, Mauger, robertson dont actually measure up to Schmidt, Gatland, Rennie, Cotter in my eyes

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                        @dagrubster but where did those coaches cut their teeth before going overseas?

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                          @cgrant

                          Dont you thik that the best NZ coaches now are all overseas? Umaga, Boyd (soon gone), Cooper, Mauger, robertson dont actually measure up to Schmidt, Gatland, Rennie, Cotter in my eyes

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                          @dagrubster said in AB Positions up for grabs:

                          @cgrant

                          Dont you thik that the best NZ coaches now are all overseas? Umaga, Boyd (soon gone), Cooper, Mauger, robertson dont actually measure up to Schmidt, Gatland, Rennie, Cotter in my eyes

                          Pretty harsh on Razor, his record suggests otherwise.

                          He Brad Mooar are 2 of the most exciting young coaches I've seen in years.

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                            @cgrant

                            Dont you thik that the best NZ coaches now are all overseas? Umaga, Boyd (soon gone), Cooper, Mauger, robertson dont actually measure up to Schmidt, Gatland, Rennie, Cotter in my eyes

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                            @dagrubster He might be young but Robertson has done nothing but win so far (Canterbury, NZU20s, Crusaders).

                            Also Plumtree seems to be the real coach behind the Canes rather than Boyd.

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                            • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                              @dagrubster but where did those coaches cut their teeth before going overseas?

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                              @taniwharugby

                              NZ of course, but that is not the question. Where are the top 3 NZ club/franchis coaches currently based in the world?

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                              • SammyCS SammyC

                                @dagrubster said in AB Positions up for grabs:

                                @cgrant

                                Dont you thik that the best NZ coaches now are all overseas? Umaga, Boyd (soon gone), Cooper, Mauger, robertson dont actually measure up to Schmidt, Gatland, Rennie, Cotter in my eyes

                                Pretty harsh on Razor, his record suggests otherwise.

                                He Brad Mooar are 2 of the most exciting young coaches I've seen in years.

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                                @sammyc

                                Dont think so sammy, Razor is looking a great coach but can he match the CV of Rennie, Gatland, Schmidt or Cotter? Not yet mate....

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                                • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                  @dagrubster He might be young but Robertson has done nothing but win so far (Canterbury, NZU20s, Crusaders).

                                  Also Plumtree seems to be the real coach behind the Canes rather than Boyd.

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                                  @kiwimurph thats why they made him assistant coach Murph!

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                                  • D DaGrubster

                                    @taniwharugby

                                    NZ of course, but that is not the question. Where are the top 3 NZ club/franchis coaches currently based in the world?

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                                    @dagrubster not sure what your point is, at that top level, very limited jobs available, and with the ABs success rate, the template for succession seems sound, whether you agree or not.

                                    All of them aren't gonna come back to NZ to coach Super rugby, for the most part it will be a step back, and def down in terms of $$$.

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                                    • SammyCS SammyC

                                      @dagrubster said in AB Positions up for grabs:

                                      @cgrant

                                      Dont you thik that the best NZ coaches now are all overseas? Umaga, Boyd (soon gone), Cooper, Mauger, robertson dont actually measure up to Schmidt, Gatland, Rennie, Cotter in my eyes

                                      Pretty harsh on Razor, his record suggests otherwise.

                                      He Brad Mooar are 2 of the most exciting young coaches I've seen in years.

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                                      @sammyc I like Razor, but I'd like to see him in charge of a less talented team (not sure what the standard of his club sides were like?) In fact, despite the fact that we've just had a Cantab coach who screwed us I'd like to see Razor take over the Magpies if it goes belly up with the new coach. A year or two of that and he'll be primed for a role with the ABs. πŸ˜‰

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                                      • NepiaN Nepia

                                        @sammyc I like Razor, but I'd like to see him in charge of a less talented team (not sure what the standard of his club sides were like?) In fact, despite the fact that we've just had a Cantab coach who screwed us I'd like to see Razor take over the Magpies if it goes belly up with the new coach. A year or two of that and he'll be primed for a role with the ABs. πŸ˜‰

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                                        @nepia said in AB Positions up for grabs:

                                        @sammyc I like Razor, but I'd like to see him in charge of a less talented team (not sure what the standard of his club sides were like?) In fact, despite the fact that we've just had a Cantab coach who screwed us I'd like to see Razor take over the Magpies if it goes belly up with the new coach. A year or two of that and he'll be primed for a role with the ABs. πŸ˜‰

                                        yea, lets get a Super Rugby winning coach to step back and coach a park football side, reeeeaaaal clever

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                                        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                          @nepia said in AB Positions up for grabs:

                                          @sammyc I like Razor, but I'd like to see him in charge of a less talented team (not sure what the standard of his club sides were like?) In fact, despite the fact that we've just had a Cantab coach who screwed us I'd like to see Razor take over the Magpies if it goes belly up with the new coach. A year or two of that and he'll be primed for a role with the ABs. πŸ˜‰

                                          yea, lets get a Super Rugby winning coach to step back and coach a park football side, reeeeaaaal clever

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                                          @mariner4life said in AB Positions up for grabs:

                                          @nepia said in AB Positions up for grabs:

                                          @sammyc I like Razor, but I'd like to see him in charge of a less talented team (not sure what the standard of his club sides were like?) In fact, despite the fact that we've just had a Cantab coach who screwed us I'd like to see Razor take over the Magpies if it goes belly up with the new coach. A year or two of that and he'll be primed for a role with the ABs. πŸ˜‰

                                          yea, lets get a Super Rugby winning coach to step back and coach a park football side, reeeeaaaal clever

                                          Hey, I just want to ensure that our coaches are the best prepared they can be, going through a bit of adversity at a lower level will help them deal with it at higher levels - I wouldn't mind if he returned home to that other Bay either. Either that or he could coach the Blues for a couple of years.

                                          On a serious note, I'm pretty sure that Rennie's time building the Poo into a reasonable team helped mould his style at the higher level.

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