Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket

booboo

@barbarian thanks for the c&p Barbs.

Good article.

Bit of a puff piece for Smith and hatchet job on Warner. Quite believable scenario though.

Would question just how friendly the friendly face of Australian cricket was. He tended to come across sneery and arrogant to me.

Paekakboyz

I quite liked Smith before he became the captain (felt a bit dirty for it too). Since then I've still admired his clear batting talent, but thought he'd fallen into the trap of being more abrasive (aka a bit of a fluffybunny) as he's led the team through some pretty iffy periods of behaviour. But on the whole nothing that was totally new for the Australian team in the last 5 years or so.

No Quarter

@barbarian said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:

@mariner4life said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:

@barbarian not sure I am quite buying that one Barb, it's a little overdone in the hyperbole stakes.

The narrative around Smith and the press conference has changed quite a bit. I'm not sure he really did selflessly dive in front of the bullet fired at "Bangers". It sounded more like when your parents get you to explain why you are in trouble.

"It's my responsibility, but bangers, tell them what you did".

That plays into it, though. Maybe Smith isn't really a leader- it's just not in his personality. He handled it about as well as he could have, which is to say not very well at all. Well intentioned enough, but poorly executed.

Yup, I don't think Smith is leadership material. I'd have just left him to being the best test batsmen in the world and have someone else deal with all the shit that comes with the captaincy.

It's not always an easy role to fill, as talent does not equal leader, but often the most talented player gets given the reigns in the hope he'll grow into it because he's most likely to warrant his place in the team long-term.

On our side of the ditch I don't think Kane is a natural leader either, but is growing into the role each year. Easier to get away with it for the BCs than the Aussie team though given how much pressure the Aus captain is always under, especially if they don't perform (or cheat in this instance).

MN5

@no-quarter said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:

@barbarian said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:

@mariner4life said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:

@barbarian not sure I am quite buying that one Barb, it's a little overdone in the hyperbole stakes.

The narrative around Smith and the press conference has changed quite a bit. I'm not sure he really did selflessly dive in front of the bullet fired at "Bangers". It sounded more like when your parents get you to explain why you are in trouble.

"It's my responsibility, but bangers, tell them what you did".

That plays into it, though. Maybe Smith isn't really a leader- it's just not in his personality. He handled it about as well as he could have, which is to say not very well at all. Well intentioned enough, but poorly executed.

Yup, I don't think Smith is leadership material. I'd have just left him to being the best test batsmen in the world and have someone else deal with all the shit that comes with the captaincy.

It's not always an easy role to fill, as talent does not equal leader, but often the most talented player gets given the reigns in the hope he'll grow into it because he's most likely to warrant his place in the team long-term.

On our side of the ditch I don't think Kane is a natural leader either, but is growing into the role each year. Easier to get away with it for the BCs than the Aussie team though given how much pressure the Aus captain is always under, especially if they don't perform (or cheat in this instance).

Oz had a succession of world class batsmen in Border, Waugh, Ponting and Clark as their captains. ( Tubby Taylor was also very good but a notch below them ) it probably seemed logical that Smith would follow suit. In terms of records Smith will probably be better than all of them ( which in itself is a fantastic achievement ) but captain ? Maybe not.

NTA

Smith's batting got better when he became captain. Weirdly.

Virgil

@nta said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:

Smith's batting got better when he became captain. Weirdly.

Seems to go one way or the other.
Kane Williamson’s is the same, average is 51 overall but increases to 58 as captain

No Quarter

Kane has steadily improved over time, I think it would have improved regardless. Same with Smith.

Tim

New Barmy Army song:

Oh...Davie Warner’s Aussie

He wears the baggy green

He dribbles like a caveman

His behaviour’s quite obscene

He’s rather fond of Candy

She gives him such a thrill

But when he offers her de Kock

She begs for Sonny Bill!

Catogrande

Smith, Warner and Bancroft sent home. Boof to stay.

Virgil

@catogrande said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:

Smith, Warner and Bancroft sent home. Boof to stay.

Welcome to 14 hours ago

Catogrande

@virgil said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket

@catogrande said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:

Smith, Warner and Bancroft sent home. Boof to stay.

Welcome to 14 hours ago

Fuck. Woke up this morning and saw it on the news. Went through the thread but didn’t see any mention. Bloody phone.

I feel humiliated.

Paekakboyz

That's nothing new on the fern

Virgil

@catogrande said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:

@virgil said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket

@catogrande said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:

Smith, Warner and Bancroft sent home. Boof to stay.

Welcome to 14 hours ago

Fuck. Woke up this morning and saw it on the news. Went through the thread but didn’t see any mention. Bloody phone.

I feel humiliated.