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  • PNP Offline
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    I see Lehmann's comment blew up the fern!

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    @crucial said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:

    This version makes sense though

    Warner: that De Kock prick is still in and everyone is watching me carefully to see what I do. I obviously can't use my normal tricks on the ball so lets get Cam to do it. He is at mid on and we can relay the ball through him.

    The broadcasters were tipped of because of how early the Aussies were getting the ball to reverse.

    I can buy the 'first time' narrative, for two reasons:

    • As per Geoff Lemon a few pages back, Warner had been pushed to breaking point this series. He had developed a siege mentality, and had lost all sight of reality. He was completely desperate and it pushed him to take actions he had never taken before.

    • It's so stupid. I find it hard to believe they have been using this tactic before, given how quickly it was picked up. And I also imagine people are now combing over the footage from the Ashes, looking for clues. Clearly they haven't found much.

    Were they tampering in other ways before? Probably. The same as everyone else - weird shining agents, bouncing the ball on throws etc. But that pales into comparison as to what they were caught doing at Newlands.

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    @virgil said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:

    I’m still struggling with the fact boof is telling the world they need to copy the black caps and play cricket like us..

    Brad Haddin has been admitted to hospital

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    @mariner4life said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:

    @virgil said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:

    I’m still struggling with the fact boof is telling the world they need to copy the black caps and play cricket like us..

    Brad Haddin has been admitted to hospital

    I think a few of us feel over and banged our heads when we read that article

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    Has anyone worked out the total loss of income for Smith and Warner over these next 12 months?

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    Shit, that was meant to be billions!

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    @Paekakboyz

    I was waiting for that gif.

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    That’s an expense sheet of sandpaper

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    @virgil said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:

    Oz cricket have a new sponsor too
    AEG

    Facebook

    AEG used to make good reliable tools that were tough and lasted and now they make cheap shit that looks good but will inevitably let you down .

    Seems like a good fit then .

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    @gt12 said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:

    Based on that, how the fuck is anyone meant to believe that the fast bowlers didn't know that this was happening? I call major bullshit (I was calling it earlier - inside my head). If we are talking sandpaper, it must be fucking more than obvious. Noo, he's just a really good ball-worker.... uh huh. Fuck them too for trying to act all "we didn't know".

    Haha yeah, I think anyone that has played the game knows it is highly likely the entire team knew what was going on, and in particular the fast bowlers who take a very keen interest in the condition of the ball.

    They've obviously chosen the people who came up with the idea and hit them as hard as they can, while trying to get away with not banning most of the team. As stated Warner is a great fall-man, as even most Aussies really struggle to like the guy.

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    Darren Gray  /  Mar 28, 2018  /  Companies

    Ashes sponsor dumps $20m naming rights deal

    Ashes sponsor dumps $20m naming rights deal

    Magellan Financial Group has terminated its naming rights sponsorship of domestic men's Test matches just a year into a three-year deal.

    Magellan Financial Group has terminated its three-year partnership as the naming rights sponsor of domestic Test matches involving the Australian men's cricket team, in response to the ball-tampering scandal in South Africa that has rocked Australian cricket.
    
    In a major blow to Cricket Australia, the deal is only one summer into its three-year term.
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    @kiwimurph said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:

    Darren Gray  /  Mar 28, 2018  /  Companies

    Ashes sponsor dumps $20m naming rights deal

    Ashes sponsor dumps $20m naming rights deal

    Magellan Financial Group has terminated its naming rights sponsorship of domestic men's Test matches just a year into a three-year deal.

    Magellan Financial Group has terminated its three-year partnership as the naming rights sponsor of domestic Test matches involving the Australian men's cricket team, in response to the ball-tampering scandal in South Africa that has rocked Australian cricket.
    
    In a major blow to Cricket Australia, the deal is only one summer into its three-year term.
    

    Good to see the over reaction is starting to abate.....

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    You know your fucked when financial groups consider you unethical!!

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    @bovidae seems like the overall cost to Oz cricket will be higher. Although CA are saving on their wage bill. But I agree with @Baron-Silas-Greenback that things are going too far.

    A bit reminiscent of the cycles of social justice outrage impacting on business/marketing decisions (including people losing their jobs) that we are seeing in the US.

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    @no-quarter said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:

    Haha yeah, I think anyone that has played the game knows it is highly likely the entire team knew what was going on, and in particular the fast bowlers who take a very keen interest in the condition of the ball.

    So the story that has been relayed to me (third hand, but supposedly from a knowledgeable source) is as follows:

    As the players were coming back onto the field for lunch, Warner and Bancroft were chatting in the corner of the sheds. Warner had been under scrutiny from the umpires for the tape on his hand, so he was trying to talk Bancroft into his scheme.

    As Bancroft was keen, Warner was showing him how to do it. Smith saw/overheard and his response was 'I don't want to know about it' and went out on the field.

    When it all was caught, the full confession was Smith's idea. He thought it would just be a slap on the wrist, as has always happened in these instances. However in his attempts to protect Bancroft and Warner, he inadvertently made it sound like a grand conspiracy. Cue shit storm and 12 month bans.

    Now I obviously can't vouch this is 100% legit, but it seems to fit with the actions taken by CA.

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    and lines up with Davy wanting to take it to SA given the banter sent his way. That would also explain Smith throwing over to Bancroft in the media session, as he must have been filthy at both him and Warner.

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    what an absolute clusterfuck, from start to, well so far....

    Apparently Asics have pulled sponsorship of players involved now as well, which I guess is fair given they wont be doing much for a decent length of time.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricket/102702227/black-caps-captain-kane-williamson-reaches-out-to-warner-in-aftermath-of-scandal

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    The punishments by CA might be harsh but they are seen to be drawing a line in the sand regarding expectations around player behaviour and conduct. Clearly lesser punishments haven't worked in the past so they've gone for the sledgehammer approach. As we know, public perception is important.

    But just as importantly, another country would now be unable to justify handing out lighter sentences for a similar offence. Yes, even the BCCI.

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    I do feel a bit sorry for Smith in all this. It kinda seems like he is a decent sort, who is an outstanding batsman and really not a leader. He got put under the pump here and failed miserably, and is now paying the price. Bancroft young and stupid and naive. Warner can just get fucked. His brand of toxic nonsense is not needed. I can imagine sponsors have been looking at him uneasily for a while, but when you have the combination of obnoxious prat, losing, and cheating, of course they are going to pull the plug. Who wants their brand associated with that?

    On a side note, while I understand the BCCI's decision to terminate IPL contracts, I have to say, the Indians taking the moral high ground on anything cheating-related is laughable.

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