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Gold Coast Comm Games

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  • CrucialC Crucial

    Each event should have a unique skill. One swimmer shouldn't be able to collect a pile of medals for doing the same thing in different ways.

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    @crucial said in Gold Coast Comm Games:

    Each event should have a unique skill. One swimmer shouldn't be able to collect a pile of medals for doing the same thing in different ways.

    Surely that's a description of athletics, minus hurdling.

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    • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

      @virgil in a PC world, it was kinda refreshing to see!

      Don't get mad, get even!

      Certainly gave him the boost he needed!

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      @taniwharugby said in Gold Coast Comm Games:

      @virgil in a PC world, it was kinda refreshing to see!

      Don't get mad, get even!

      Certainly gave him the boost he needed!

      I think it’s great, yep he was a bit twatty at the finish but nothing like a bit of feeling to fuel a hopefully long standing and successful rivalry

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        @crucial said in Gold Coast Comm Games:

        Each event should have a unique skill. One swimmer shouldn't be able to collect a pile of medals for doing the same thing in different ways.

        Surely that's a description of athletics, minus hurdling.

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        @mikethesnow said in Gold Coast Comm Games:

        @crucial said in Gold Coast Comm Games:

        Each event should have a unique skill. One swimmer shouldn't be able to collect a pile of medals for doing the same thing in different ways.

        Surely that's a description of athletics, minus hurdling.

        Athletics isn't much better in areas, I agree. 100m and 200m has a big crossover in athletes, relays just reward countries with depth in the event. You could easily do a clean up of running events but it will never happen.

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        • CrucialC Crucial

          @mikethesnow said in Gold Coast Comm Games:

          @crucial said in Gold Coast Comm Games:

          Each event should have a unique skill. One swimmer shouldn't be able to collect a pile of medals for doing the same thing in different ways.

          Surely that's a description of athletics, minus hurdling.

          Athletics isn't much better in areas, I agree. 100m and 200m has a big crossover in athletes, relays just reward countries with depth in the event. You could easily do a clean up of running events but it will never happen.

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          @crucial said in Gold Coast Comm Games:

          @mikethesnow said in Gold Coast Comm Games:

          @crucial said in Gold Coast Comm Games:

          Each event should have a unique skill. One swimmer shouldn't be able to collect a pile of medals for doing the same thing in different ways.

          Surely that's a description of athletics, minus hurdling.

          Athletics isn't much better in areas, I agree. 100m and 200m has a big crossover in athletes, relays just reward countries with depth in the event. You could easily do a clean up of running events but it will never happen.

          I think it's nuts that one of the greatest all time runners (bolt) won the same number of medals in his career as one of the greatest swimmers of all time won in each games.

          I think they should make everyone do everything. Heats can be four separate races, with times added together, and then semis and finals are medley races.

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            @taniwharugby said in Gold Coast Comm Games:

            @virgil in a PC world, it was kinda refreshing to see!

            Don't get mad, get even!

            Certainly gave him the boost he needed!

            I think it’s great, yep he was a bit twatty at the finish but nothing like a bit of feeling to fuel a hopefully long standing and successful rivalry

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            @virgil so many keyboard warriors having a crack

            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/commonwealth-games/103067713/emotions-sour-what-should-have-been-a-celebratory-moment-for-kiwi-mountainbiking

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              @taniwharugby egged on by our drama seeking shit media organisations.

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                @taniwharugby egged on by our drama seeking shit media organisations.

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                @virgil my comment is getting lots of down votes haha

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                  @taniwharugby egged on by our drama seeking shit media organisations.

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                  @virgil said in Gold Coast Comm Games:

                  @taniwharugby egged on by our drama seeking shit media organisations.

                  It's such a fucking non-story. So they were a little bit bitchy after the race, seriously who fucking cares?

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                    Both have displayed that win-at-all costs attitude that we begrudgingly admire from Aust sportspeople.

                    More please...

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                    • CrucialC Crucial

                      Each event should have a unique skill. One swimmer shouldn't be able to collect a pile of medals for doing the same thing in different ways.

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                      @crucial said in Gold Coast Comm Games:

                      Each event should have a unique skill. One swimmer shouldn't be able to collect a pile of medals for doing the same thing in different ways.

                      Yes freestyle, butterfly, breaststroke are exactly the same thing. As are the distances.

                      What about skiing then? Both downhill and cross country? Potentially heaps of medals to be won there. Just the same skill isn't?

                      I doubt anyone would be bitching if NZ were collecting these medals. Or anyone other than Australia.

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                      • BovidaeB Bovidae

                        Both have displayed that win-at-all costs attitude that we begrudgingly admire from Aust sportspeople.

                        More please...

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                        @bovidae said in Gold Coast Comm Games:

                        Both have displayed that win-at-all costs attitude that we begrudgingly admire from Aust sportspeople.

                        I don't admire that. Sure winning is great, but not at all costs. A few Aussie cricketers understand that now I think.

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                        • SnowyS Snowy

                          @bovidae said in Gold Coast Comm Games:

                          Both have displayed that win-at-all costs attitude that we begrudgingly admire from Aust sportspeople.

                          I don't admire that. Sure winning is great, but not at all costs. A few Aussie cricketers understand that now I think.

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                          @snowy I guess, win at all costs, within the rules?

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                            That certainly helps but I still don't admire that attitude.

                            I might be old fashioned but I think there is still a place for respecting your opponent, the spirit of the game, etc. To me those sorts of things are a cost if disregarded.

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                            • SnowyS Snowy

                              That certainly helps but I still don't admire that attitude.

                              I might be old fashioned but I think there is still a place for respecting your opponent, the spirit of the game, etc. To me those sorts of things are a cost if disregarded.

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                              @snowy different sports have differing levels of etiquette and self policing, which probably drives some of the 'win at all cost' mentality?

                              Prime example would be Cricket (team) v Golf (individual)...how often has a player been out, but not walked, whereas I have seen players in golf, call a shot on themselves the camera hasn't picked up, and one instance, it cost a guy a win.

                              There are so many opportunities in golf to 'cheat' but just through how the game is played, means you don't (well the vast majority don't)

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                                @snowy different sports have differing levels of etiquette and self policing, which probably drives some of the 'win at all cost' mentality?

                                Prime example would be Cricket (team) v Golf (individual)...how often has a player been out, but not walked, whereas I have seen players in golf, call a shot on themselves the camera hasn't picked up, and one instance, it cost a guy a win.

                                There are so many opportunities in golf to 'cheat' but just through how the game is played, means you don't (well the vast majority don't)

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                                @taniwharugby Sure there are different levels - but I don't admire winning at all costs.

                                The athlete has to make that call depending on the circumstances. I personally remain silent when another player is taking a shot in golf, it isn't against the rules to do otherwise. For me there is a greater cost to my integrity than the price of losing.

                                Some might call it a "line".

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                                • SnowyS Snowy

                                  @taniwharugby Sure there are different levels - but I don't admire winning at all costs.

                                  The athlete has to make that call depending on the circumstances. I personally remain silent when another player is taking a shot in golf, it isn't against the rules to do otherwise. For me there is a greater cost to my integrity than the price of losing.

                                  Some might call it a "line".

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                                  @snowy silence when taking a shot, not standing directly in their line etc...rarely have I ever seen anyone break those 'etiquette rules' (particularly deliberately) there are some, but usually someone will point it out, and usually these are newbies to the sport.

                                  I grew up playing on a golf course with fences around the greens to stop sheep going on, but I still learnt the finer details of etiquette...

                                  If there was an expectation for Cooper to stop for Gaze, then I can understand why he is pissed, but then if Cooper had stopped, would Gaze have still win?

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                                  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                    @snowy silence when taking a shot, not standing directly in their line etc...rarely have I ever seen anyone break those 'etiquette rules' (particularly deliberately) there are some, but usually someone will point it out, and usually these are newbies to the sport.

                                    I grew up playing on a golf course with fences around the greens to stop sheep going on, but I still learnt the finer details of etiquette...

                                    If there was an expectation for Cooper to stop for Gaze, then I can understand why he is pissed, but then if Cooper had stopped, would Gaze have still win?

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                                    @taniwharugby My understanding is that there is no expectation for Cooper to stop. Gaze just let himself down with comments afterwards even though he won.

                                    The point remains that that I don't admire a win at at all costs attitude as stated above.

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                                    • SnowyS Snowy

                                      @taniwharugby My understanding is that there is no expectation for Cooper to stop. Gaze just let himself down with comments afterwards even though he won.

                                      The point remains that that I don't admire a win at at all costs attitude as stated above.

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                                      @snowy win at all costs in a discipline like shooting or archery would not be ideal...

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                                      • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                        @snowy win at all costs in a discipline like shooting or archery would not be ideal...

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                                        @taniwharugby said in Gold Coast Comm Games:

                                        @snowy win at all costs in a discipline like shooting or archery would not be ideal...

                                        There is definitely a "line" there.

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                                          Play hard do everything you can to win within the spirit and the rules of the game. Win or lose with some grace. Gaze let himself down sadly. No one likes an ugly winner

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