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Chiefs 2018

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  • P ploughboy

    yeah kind of agree in that we are lucky who and where our injurys have been (if you forget the six props given how well the replacements have gone) but we really lack quality in the backs. against the reds after dmac went off mmac.faauli ,wainui and in this game alaimalo were poor. stevenson is playing club rugby this week so that will help but dont know who to fix 12 with maybe lienert brown and aumua to 13(i noticed he was in brisbane ), we seem to lack pace against most teams

    any way my backline
    9 ttt
    10 dmac
    11 alaimalo
    12 alb/ngatai
    13 alb /aumua
    14 pulu
    15 ngatai/stevenson

    at the least this group on the field aumua on the wing? when is falcon back.

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    @ploughboy said in Chiefs 2018:

    yeah kind of agree in that we are lucky who and where our injurys have been (if you forget the six props given how well the replacements have gone) but we really lack quality in the backs. against the reds after dmac went off mmac.faauli ,wainui and in this game alaimalo were poor. stevenson is playing club rugby this week so that will help but dont know who to fix 12 with maybe lienert brown and aumua to 13(i noticed he was in brisbane ), we seem to lack pace against most teams

    any way my backline
    9 ttt
    10 dmac
    11 alaimalo
    12 alb/ngatai
    13 alb /aumua
    14 pulu
    15 ngatai/stevenson

    at the least this group on the field aumua on the wing? when is falcon back.

    Why can't we just go 12 Ngatai and 13 ALB? It is a proven working combo.
    I guess that as Fa'auli has remained available and isn't versatile they have been selecting around him.

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      @ploughboy said in Chiefs 2018:

      yeah kind of agree in that we are lucky who and where our injurys have been (if you forget the six props given how well the replacements have gone) but we really lack quality in the backs. against the reds after dmac went off mmac.faauli ,wainui and in this game alaimalo were poor. stevenson is playing club rugby this week so that will help but dont know who to fix 12 with maybe lienert brown and aumua to 13(i noticed he was in brisbane ), we seem to lack pace against most teams

      any way my backline
      9 ttt
      10 dmac
      11 alaimalo
      12 alb/ngatai
      13 alb /aumua
      14 pulu
      15 ngatai/stevenson

      at the least this group on the field aumua on the wing? when is falcon back.

      Why can't we just go 12 Ngatai and 13 ALB? It is a proven working combo.
      I guess that as Fa'auli has remained available and isn't versatile they have been selecting around him.

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      @crucial said in Chiefs 2018:

      Why can't we just go 12 Ngatai and 13 ALB? It is a proven working combo.

      Yeah. I think the decision to play Ngatai at fullback has also been about preservation.

      I guess that as Fa'auli has remained available and isn't versatile they have been selecting around him.

      ALB needs to have his 1-game rest at some stage so I'd like to see Ngatai in the midfield for that game (possibly the Jaguares game next Friday). A Fa'auli-Wainui midfield would make me nervous. Nankivell will probably come into the centres, Aumua onto the bench.

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      • BovidaeB Bovidae

        Better late than never. Here are the Chiefs' Development teams that played the Blues in Hamilton and Hurricanes in Napier.

        0_1524814653664_Chiefs Dev XV 2018 - Team v Blues Dev XV (CR).jpg

        0_1524814378276_Chiefs Dev XV 2018  v Hurricanes Dev XV.jpg

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        @bovidae

        Thanks heaps

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          Seu and McNicol are gone for the SR season. The latter might have to think about retiring.

          Tiaan Falcon will be out of action for three to four weeks with his hand injury.

          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/103482630/another-seasonending-injury-for-chiefs-ahead-of-facing-inform-jaguares

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            A 29-man travelling squad has touched down in South Africa ahead of the two-game South African tour against the Stormers and Sharks. New face Matt Matich joins the squad for injury replacement after training with the team throughout pre-season. The flanker plays for Northland in the Mitre 10 Cup. Sam Cane is rested for the South African tour having sustained an abdominal strain. Jesse Parete also earns a spot on tour after an impressive debut off the bench against the Jaguares where he scored the team’s only try with a powerful run through a determined Jaguares defence.

            The group in South Africa are:

            FORWARDS:

            Karl Tu’inukuafe
            Sam Prattley
            Angus Ta’avao-Matau
            Jeffrey Thwaites
            Sosefo Kautai
            Nathan Harris
            Liam Polwart
            Samisoni Taukei’aho
            Brodie Retallick
            Tyler Ardron
            Michael Allardice
            Luke Jacobson
            Pita Gus Sowakula
            Liam Messam
            Jesse Parete
            Matt Matich

            BACKS:

            Brad Weber
            Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi
            Jonathan Taumateine
            Damian McKenzie
            Marty McKenzie
            Solomon Alaimalo
            Johnny Faauli
            Anton Lienert-Brown
            Charlie Ngatai
            Sean Wainui
            Alex Nankivell
            Shaun Stevenson
            Toni Pulu

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              A 29-man travelling squad has touched down in South Africa ahead of the two-game South African tour against the Stormers and Sharks. New face Matt Matich joins the squad for injury replacement after training with the team throughout pre-season. The flanker plays for Northland in the Mitre 10 Cup. Sam Cane is rested for the South African tour having sustained an abdominal strain. Jesse Parete also earns a spot on tour after an impressive debut off the bench against the Jaguares where he scored the team’s only try with a powerful run through a determined Jaguares defence.

              The group in South Africa are:

              FORWARDS:

              Karl Tu’inukuafe
              Sam Prattley
              Angus Ta’avao-Matau
              Jeffrey Thwaites
              Sosefo Kautai
              Nathan Harris
              Liam Polwart
              Samisoni Taukei’aho
              Brodie Retallick
              Tyler Ardron
              Michael Allardice
              Luke Jacobson
              Pita Gus Sowakula
              Liam Messam
              Jesse Parete
              Matt Matich

              BACKS:

              Brad Weber
              Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi
              Jonathan Taumateine
              Damian McKenzie
              Marty McKenzie
              Solomon Alaimalo
              Johnny Faauli
              Anton Lienert-Brown
              Charlie Ngatai
              Sean Wainui
              Alex Nankivell
              Shaun Stevenson
              Toni Pulu

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              @bovidae Matich has played a few games for Blues dev side too...

              Very hard working loosie, plays 8 for us, but is a bit small for that at Super level IMO.

              As mentioned over on the super rugby thread, he has the attributes to play 7 as well, but IMO he is more a 6.5, hope he gets a shot!

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                @bovidae Matich has played a few games for Blues dev side too...

                Very hard working loosie, plays 8 for us, but is a bit small for that at Super level IMO.

                As mentioned over on the super rugby thread, he has the attributes to play 7 as well, but IMO he is more a 6.5, hope he gets a shot!

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                @taniwharugby

                I thought they would pick a specialist 7 and Mitch Jacobson would be the obvious choice.

                Parete might be the player they start against the Stormers.

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                  @taniwharugby

                  I thought they would pick a specialist 7 and Mitch Jacobson would be the obvious choice.

                  Parete might be the player they start against the Stormers.

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                  @bovidae interesting comment there saying he had been training with the Chiefs too (and playing for Blues dev) but I know Dale MacLeod worked hard behind the scenes to get the Chiefs to have a look at him after another good M10 cup last year.

                  Yeah while he has the skillset to be a specialist 7, he isn't.

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                    UPDATE: It's great to have Mitch Jacobson and Luteru Laulala join us this week in Durban - welcome guys! The touring team have farewelled Brodie, Anton, Damian and Nathan who have flown home to join the All Blacks camp this weekend.

                    0_1526341736856_MJ.jpg

                    So TTT is able to play this weekend.

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                      UPDATE: It's great to have Mitch Jacobson and Luteru Laulala join us this week in Durban - welcome guys! The touring team have farewelled Brodie, Anton, Damian and Nathan who have flown home to join the All Blacks camp this weekend.

                      0_1526341736856_MJ.jpg

                      So TTT is able to play this weekend.

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                      @bovidae

                      Good to see them both there. Who is the 11th replacement player in the 'Stuff article' though? Of initial 38, only 16 remain. 16 stayed home injured, 4 AB's returning, Aumua left at home as so many midfielders available. That leaves one...?

                      I was expecting a lock replacement perhaps - like Tucker. Or have the Blues come calling??

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                        @bovidae

                        Good to see them both there. Who is the 11th replacement player in the 'Stuff article' though? Of initial 38, only 16 remain. 16 stayed home injured, 4 AB's returning, Aumua left at home as so many midfielders available. That leaves one...?

                        I was expecting a lock replacement perhaps - like Tucker. Or have the Blues come calling??

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                        @arhs said in Chiefs 2018:

                        Who is the 11th replacement player in the 'Stuff article' though? Of initial 38, only 16 remain. 16 stayed home injured, 4 AB's returning, Aumua left at home as so many midfielders available. That leaves one...?

                        Of the 29 in the squad to SA these are replacement players:
                        Karl Tu’inukuafe
                        Sam Prattley
                        Angus Ta’avao-Matau
                        Jeffrey Thwaites
                        Pita Gus Sowakula
                        Jesse Parete
                        Matt Matich
                        Sean Wainui

                        Mitch Jacobson
                        Luteru Laulala

                        So you're right, that is only 10.

                        Luke Jacobson was used as a reserve lock in earlier games so he'll probably do the same vs the Sharks. Ardron back to lock. MMac at 1st 5 doesn't inspire confidence.

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                          @arhs said in Chiefs 2018:

                          Who is the 11th replacement player in the 'Stuff article' though? Of initial 38, only 16 remain. 16 stayed home injured, 4 AB's returning, Aumua left at home as so many midfielders available. That leaves one...?

                          Of the 29 in the squad to SA these are replacement players:
                          Karl Tu’inukuafe
                          Sam Prattley
                          Angus Ta’avao-Matau
                          Jeffrey Thwaites
                          Pita Gus Sowakula
                          Jesse Parete
                          Matt Matich
                          Sean Wainui

                          Mitch Jacobson
                          Luteru Laulala

                          So you're right, that is only 10.

                          Luke Jacobson was used as a reserve lock in earlier games so he'll probably do the same vs the Sharks. Ardron back to lock. MMac at 1st 5 doesn't inspire confidence.

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                          @bovidae Yeah, Tiaan Falcon posted this on instagram yesterday. Note the hash tag. Would have been great to have him there for the Sharks game.

                          Pretty shit being injured but there’s always a positive and that’s spending time with my family ☺️ #2WeeksToGo
                          
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                            @bovidae Yeah, Tiaan Falcon posted this on instagram yesterday. Note the hash tag. Would have been great to have him there for the Sharks game.

                            Pretty shit being injured but there’s always a positive and that’s spending time with my family ☺️ #2WeeksToGo
                            
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                            That is good news. Glad Laulala is there now though. Means Ngatai can play inside centre, and Laulala covers 15 and 10. Bit worried about the locking cover though.

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                              I'd rather see Ngatai at 10 than MMac.

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                                A 29-man travelling squad has touched down in South Africa ahead of the two-game South African tour against the Stormers and Sharks. New face Matt Matich joins the squad for injury replacement after training with the team throughout pre-season. The flanker plays for Northland in the Mitre 10 Cup. Sam Cane is rested for the South African tour having sustained an abdominal strain. Jesse Parete also earns a spot on tour after an impressive debut off the bench against the Jaguares where he scored the team’s only try with a powerful run through a determined Jaguares defence.

                                The group in South Africa are:

                                FORWARDS:

                                Karl Tu’inukuafe
                                Sam Prattley
                                Angus Ta’avao-Matau
                                Jeffrey Thwaites
                                Sosefo Kautai
                                Nathan Harris
                                Liam Polwart
                                Samisoni Taukei’aho
                                Brodie Retallick
                                Tyler Ardron
                                Michael Allardice
                                Luke Jacobson
                                Pita Gus Sowakula
                                Liam Messam
                                Jesse Parete
                                Matt Matich

                                BACKS:

                                Brad Weber
                                Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi
                                Jonathan Taumateine
                                Damian McKenzie
                                Marty McKenzie
                                Solomon Alaimalo
                                Johnny Faauli
                                Anton Lienert-Brown
                                Charlie Ngatai
                                Sean Wainui
                                Alex Nankivell
                                Shaun Stevenson
                                Toni Pulu

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                                This is what I suspect we will see named (changes from last week.

                                Karl Tu’inukuafe
                                Nathan Harris Liam Polwart
                                Angus Ta’avao
                                Brodie Retallick Tyler Ardron
                                Michael Allardice
                                Luke Jacobson
                                Liam Messam
                                Tyler Ardron Pita Gus Sowakula
                                Brad Weber
                                Damian McKenzieMarty McKenzie
                                Solomon Alaimalo
                                Johnny Faauli
                                Anton Lienert-Brown Charlie Ngatai
                                Toni Pulu
                                Charlie Ngatai Shaun Stevenson

                                Liam Polwart Samisoni Taukei’aho
                                Sam Prattley
                                Jeff Thwaites
                                Jesse Parete
                                Pita Gus Sowakula Matt Matich
                                Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi
                                Marty McKenzie Sean Wainui
                                Shaun Stevenson Luteru Laulala

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                                  This is what I suspect we will see named (changes from last week.

                                  Karl Tu’inukuafe
                                  Nathan Harris Liam Polwart
                                  Angus Ta’avao
                                  Brodie Retallick Tyler Ardron
                                  Michael Allardice
                                  Luke Jacobson
                                  Liam Messam
                                  Tyler Ardron Pita Gus Sowakula
                                  Brad Weber
                                  Damian McKenzieMarty McKenzie
                                  Solomon Alaimalo
                                  Johnny Faauli
                                  Anton Lienert-Brown Charlie Ngatai
                                  Toni Pulu
                                  Charlie Ngatai Shaun Stevenson

                                  Liam Polwart Samisoni Taukei’aho
                                  Sam Prattley
                                  Jeff Thwaites
                                  Jesse Parete
                                  Pita Gus Sowakula Matt Matich
                                  Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi
                                  Marty McKenzie Sean Wainui
                                  Shaun Stevenson Luteru Laulala

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                                  @crucial

                                  Kautai for Thwaites in the reserves.

                                  Don't be surprised if it's Alaimalo at fullback and Stevenson on the wing, although the latter is definitely better at fullback and prefers to play there.

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                                    Chiefs could probably do with dropping down the table to 6th and letting the Highlanders take 5th place otherwise they will get a quarter final against the Canes or Saders.

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                                      https://twitter.com/Goiley/status/999129272563331072

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                                        I hope Boshier is available again.

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                                          I hope Boshier is available again.

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                                          @bovidae We'll lend you Kiri Kiri.

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