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  • CrucialC Crucial

    @ploughboy said in Chiefs 2018:

    yeah kind of agree in that we are lucky who and where our injurys have been (if you forget the six props given how well the replacements have gone) but we really lack quality in the backs. against the reds after dmac went off mmac.faauli ,wainui and in this game alaimalo were poor. stevenson is playing club rugby this week so that will help but dont know who to fix 12 with maybe lienert brown and aumua to 13(i noticed he was in brisbane ), we seem to lack pace against most teams

    any way my backline
    9 ttt
    10 dmac
    11 alaimalo
    12 alb/ngatai
    13 alb /aumua
    14 pulu
    15 ngatai/stevenson

    at the least this group on the field aumua on the wing? when is falcon back.

    Why can't we just go 12 Ngatai and 13 ALB? It is a proven working combo.
    I guess that as Fa'auli has remained available and isn't versatile they have been selecting around him.

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    @crucial said in Chiefs 2018:

    Why can't we just go 12 Ngatai and 13 ALB? It is a proven working combo.

    Yeah. I think the decision to play Ngatai at fullback has also been about preservation.

    I guess that as Fa'auli has remained available and isn't versatile they have been selecting around him.

    ALB needs to have his 1-game rest at some stage so I'd like to see Ngatai in the midfield for that game (possibly the Jaguares game next Friday). A Fa'auli-Wainui midfield would make me nervous. Nankivell will probably come into the centres, Aumua onto the bench.

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    • BovidaeB Bovidae

      Better late than never. Here are the Chiefs' Development teams that played the Blues in Hamilton and Hurricanes in Napier.

      0_1524814653664_Chiefs Dev XV 2018 - Team v Blues Dev XV (CR).jpg

      0_1524814378276_Chiefs Dev XV 2018  v Hurricanes Dev XV.jpg

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      @bovidae

      Thanks heaps

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        Seu and McNicol are gone for the SR season. The latter might have to think about retiring.

        Tiaan Falcon will be out of action for three to four weeks with his hand injury.

        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/103482630/another-seasonending-injury-for-chiefs-ahead-of-facing-inform-jaguares

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          A 29-man travelling squad has touched down in South Africa ahead of the two-game South African tour against the Stormers and Sharks. New face Matt Matich joins the squad for injury replacement after training with the team throughout pre-season. The flanker plays for Northland in the Mitre 10 Cup. Sam Cane is rested for the South African tour having sustained an abdominal strain. Jesse Parete also earns a spot on tour after an impressive debut off the bench against the Jaguares where he scored the team’s only try with a powerful run through a determined Jaguares defence.

          The group in South Africa are:

          FORWARDS:

          Karl Tu’inukuafe
          Sam Prattley
          Angus Ta’avao-Matau
          Jeffrey Thwaites
          Sosefo Kautai
          Nathan Harris
          Liam Polwart
          Samisoni Taukei’aho
          Brodie Retallick
          Tyler Ardron
          Michael Allardice
          Luke Jacobson
          Pita Gus Sowakula
          Liam Messam
          Jesse Parete
          Matt Matich

          BACKS:

          Brad Weber
          Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi
          Jonathan Taumateine
          Damian McKenzie
          Marty McKenzie
          Solomon Alaimalo
          Johnny Faauli
          Anton Lienert-Brown
          Charlie Ngatai
          Sean Wainui
          Alex Nankivell
          Shaun Stevenson
          Toni Pulu

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            A 29-man travelling squad has touched down in South Africa ahead of the two-game South African tour against the Stormers and Sharks. New face Matt Matich joins the squad for injury replacement after training with the team throughout pre-season. The flanker plays for Northland in the Mitre 10 Cup. Sam Cane is rested for the South African tour having sustained an abdominal strain. Jesse Parete also earns a spot on tour after an impressive debut off the bench against the Jaguares where he scored the team’s only try with a powerful run through a determined Jaguares defence.

            The group in South Africa are:

            FORWARDS:

            Karl Tu’inukuafe
            Sam Prattley
            Angus Ta’avao-Matau
            Jeffrey Thwaites
            Sosefo Kautai
            Nathan Harris
            Liam Polwart
            Samisoni Taukei’aho
            Brodie Retallick
            Tyler Ardron
            Michael Allardice
            Luke Jacobson
            Pita Gus Sowakula
            Liam Messam
            Jesse Parete
            Matt Matich

            BACKS:

            Brad Weber
            Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi
            Jonathan Taumateine
            Damian McKenzie
            Marty McKenzie
            Solomon Alaimalo
            Johnny Faauli
            Anton Lienert-Brown
            Charlie Ngatai
            Sean Wainui
            Alex Nankivell
            Shaun Stevenson
            Toni Pulu

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            @bovidae Matich has played a few games for Blues dev side too...

            Very hard working loosie, plays 8 for us, but is a bit small for that at Super level IMO.

            As mentioned over on the super rugby thread, he has the attributes to play 7 as well, but IMO he is more a 6.5, hope he gets a shot!

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            • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

              @bovidae Matich has played a few games for Blues dev side too...

              Very hard working loosie, plays 8 for us, but is a bit small for that at Super level IMO.

              As mentioned over on the super rugby thread, he has the attributes to play 7 as well, but IMO he is more a 6.5, hope he gets a shot!

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              @taniwharugby

              I thought they would pick a specialist 7 and Mitch Jacobson would be the obvious choice.

              Parete might be the player they start against the Stormers.

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                @taniwharugby

                I thought they would pick a specialist 7 and Mitch Jacobson would be the obvious choice.

                Parete might be the player they start against the Stormers.

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                @bovidae interesting comment there saying he had been training with the Chiefs too (and playing for Blues dev) but I know Dale MacLeod worked hard behind the scenes to get the Chiefs to have a look at him after another good M10 cup last year.

                Yeah while he has the skillset to be a specialist 7, he isn't.

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                  UPDATE: It's great to have Mitch Jacobson and Luteru Laulala join us this week in Durban - welcome guys! The touring team have farewelled Brodie, Anton, Damian and Nathan who have flown home to join the All Blacks camp this weekend.

                  0_1526341736856_MJ.jpg

                  So TTT is able to play this weekend.

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                    UPDATE: It's great to have Mitch Jacobson and Luteru Laulala join us this week in Durban - welcome guys! The touring team have farewelled Brodie, Anton, Damian and Nathan who have flown home to join the All Blacks camp this weekend.

                    0_1526341736856_MJ.jpg

                    So TTT is able to play this weekend.

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                    @bovidae

                    Good to see them both there. Who is the 11th replacement player in the 'Stuff article' though? Of initial 38, only 16 remain. 16 stayed home injured, 4 AB's returning, Aumua left at home as so many midfielders available. That leaves one...?

                    I was expecting a lock replacement perhaps - like Tucker. Or have the Blues come calling??

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                      @bovidae

                      Good to see them both there. Who is the 11th replacement player in the 'Stuff article' though? Of initial 38, only 16 remain. 16 stayed home injured, 4 AB's returning, Aumua left at home as so many midfielders available. That leaves one...?

                      I was expecting a lock replacement perhaps - like Tucker. Or have the Blues come calling??

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                      @arhs said in Chiefs 2018:

                      Who is the 11th replacement player in the 'Stuff article' though? Of initial 38, only 16 remain. 16 stayed home injured, 4 AB's returning, Aumua left at home as so many midfielders available. That leaves one...?

                      Of the 29 in the squad to SA these are replacement players:
                      Karl Tu’inukuafe
                      Sam Prattley
                      Angus Ta’avao-Matau
                      Jeffrey Thwaites
                      Pita Gus Sowakula
                      Jesse Parete
                      Matt Matich
                      Sean Wainui

                      Mitch Jacobson
                      Luteru Laulala

                      So you're right, that is only 10.

                      Luke Jacobson was used as a reserve lock in earlier games so he'll probably do the same vs the Sharks. Ardron back to lock. MMac at 1st 5 doesn't inspire confidence.

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                      • BovidaeB Bovidae

                        @arhs said in Chiefs 2018:

                        Who is the 11th replacement player in the 'Stuff article' though? Of initial 38, only 16 remain. 16 stayed home injured, 4 AB's returning, Aumua left at home as so many midfielders available. That leaves one...?

                        Of the 29 in the squad to SA these are replacement players:
                        Karl Tu’inukuafe
                        Sam Prattley
                        Angus Ta’avao-Matau
                        Jeffrey Thwaites
                        Pita Gus Sowakula
                        Jesse Parete
                        Matt Matich
                        Sean Wainui

                        Mitch Jacobson
                        Luteru Laulala

                        So you're right, that is only 10.

                        Luke Jacobson was used as a reserve lock in earlier games so he'll probably do the same vs the Sharks. Ardron back to lock. MMac at 1st 5 doesn't inspire confidence.

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                        @bovidae Yeah, Tiaan Falcon posted this on instagram yesterday. Note the hash tag. Would have been great to have him there for the Sharks game.

                        Pretty shit being injured but there’s always a positive and that’s spending time with my family ☺️ #2WeeksToGo
                        
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                          @bovidae Yeah, Tiaan Falcon posted this on instagram yesterday. Note the hash tag. Would have been great to have him there for the Sharks game.

                          Pretty shit being injured but there’s always a positive and that’s spending time with my family ☺️ #2WeeksToGo
                          
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                          @stargazer

                          That is good news. Glad Laulala is there now though. Means Ngatai can play inside centre, and Laulala covers 15 and 10. Bit worried about the locking cover though.

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                            I'd rather see Ngatai at 10 than MMac.

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                              A 29-man travelling squad has touched down in South Africa ahead of the two-game South African tour against the Stormers and Sharks. New face Matt Matich joins the squad for injury replacement after training with the team throughout pre-season. The flanker plays for Northland in the Mitre 10 Cup. Sam Cane is rested for the South African tour having sustained an abdominal strain. Jesse Parete also earns a spot on tour after an impressive debut off the bench against the Jaguares where he scored the team’s only try with a powerful run through a determined Jaguares defence.

                              The group in South Africa are:

                              FORWARDS:

                              Karl Tu’inukuafe
                              Sam Prattley
                              Angus Ta’avao-Matau
                              Jeffrey Thwaites
                              Sosefo Kautai
                              Nathan Harris
                              Liam Polwart
                              Samisoni Taukei’aho
                              Brodie Retallick
                              Tyler Ardron
                              Michael Allardice
                              Luke Jacobson
                              Pita Gus Sowakula
                              Liam Messam
                              Jesse Parete
                              Matt Matich

                              BACKS:

                              Brad Weber
                              Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi
                              Jonathan Taumateine
                              Damian McKenzie
                              Marty McKenzie
                              Solomon Alaimalo
                              Johnny Faauli
                              Anton Lienert-Brown
                              Charlie Ngatai
                              Sean Wainui
                              Alex Nankivell
                              Shaun Stevenson
                              Toni Pulu

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                              This is what I suspect we will see named (changes from last week.

                              Karl Tu’inukuafe
                              Nathan Harris Liam Polwart
                              Angus Ta’avao
                              Brodie Retallick Tyler Ardron
                              Michael Allardice
                              Luke Jacobson
                              Liam Messam
                              Tyler Ardron Pita Gus Sowakula
                              Brad Weber
                              Damian McKenzieMarty McKenzie
                              Solomon Alaimalo
                              Johnny Faauli
                              Anton Lienert-Brown Charlie Ngatai
                              Toni Pulu
                              Charlie Ngatai Shaun Stevenson

                              Liam Polwart Samisoni Taukei’aho
                              Sam Prattley
                              Jeff Thwaites
                              Jesse Parete
                              Pita Gus Sowakula Matt Matich
                              Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi
                              Marty McKenzie Sean Wainui
                              Shaun Stevenson Luteru Laulala

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                                This is what I suspect we will see named (changes from last week.

                                Karl Tu’inukuafe
                                Nathan Harris Liam Polwart
                                Angus Ta’avao
                                Brodie Retallick Tyler Ardron
                                Michael Allardice
                                Luke Jacobson
                                Liam Messam
                                Tyler Ardron Pita Gus Sowakula
                                Brad Weber
                                Damian McKenzieMarty McKenzie
                                Solomon Alaimalo
                                Johnny Faauli
                                Anton Lienert-Brown Charlie Ngatai
                                Toni Pulu
                                Charlie Ngatai Shaun Stevenson

                                Liam Polwart Samisoni Taukei’aho
                                Sam Prattley
                                Jeff Thwaites
                                Jesse Parete
                                Pita Gus Sowakula Matt Matich
                                Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi
                                Marty McKenzie Sean Wainui
                                Shaun Stevenson Luteru Laulala

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                                @crucial

                                Kautai for Thwaites in the reserves.

                                Don't be surprised if it's Alaimalo at fullback and Stevenson on the wing, although the latter is definitely better at fullback and prefers to play there.

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                                  Chiefs could probably do with dropping down the table to 6th and letting the Highlanders take 5th place otherwise they will get a quarter final against the Canes or Saders.

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                                    https://twitter.com/Goiley/status/999129272563331072

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                                      I hope Boshier is available again.

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                                        I hope Boshier is available again.

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                                        @bovidae We'll lend you Kiri Kiri.

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                                          @bovidae We'll lend you Kiri Kiri.

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                                          @tim We've got Liam.

                                          Karpik could be over his concussion too but neither are Cane.

                                          Edit: Boshier is still not back training. Laulala won't be available until after the June series.

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