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  • BovidaeB Bovidae

    @arhs said in Chiefs 2018:

    Who is the 11th replacement player in the 'Stuff article' though? Of initial 38, only 16 remain. 16 stayed home injured, 4 AB's returning, Aumua left at home as so many midfielders available. That leaves one...?

    Of the 29 in the squad to SA these are replacement players:
    Karl Tu’inukuafe
    Sam Prattley
    Angus Ta’avao-Matau
    Jeffrey Thwaites
    Pita Gus Sowakula
    Jesse Parete
    Matt Matich
    Sean Wainui

    Mitch Jacobson
    Luteru Laulala

    So you're right, that is only 10.

    Luke Jacobson was used as a reserve lock in earlier games so he'll probably do the same vs the Sharks. Ardron back to lock. MMac at 1st 5 doesn't inspire confidence.

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    @bovidae Yeah, Tiaan Falcon posted this on instagram yesterday. Note the hash tag. Would have been great to have him there for the Sharks game.

    Pretty shit being injured but there’s always a positive and that’s spending time with my family ☺️ #2WeeksToGo
    
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      @bovidae Yeah, Tiaan Falcon posted this on instagram yesterday. Note the hash tag. Would have been great to have him there for the Sharks game.

      Pretty shit being injured but there’s always a positive and that’s spending time with my family ☺️ #2WeeksToGo
      
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      @stargazer

      That is good news. Glad Laulala is there now though. Means Ngatai can play inside centre, and Laulala covers 15 and 10. Bit worried about the locking cover though.

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        I'd rather see Ngatai at 10 than MMac.

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          A 29-man travelling squad has touched down in South Africa ahead of the two-game South African tour against the Stormers and Sharks. New face Matt Matich joins the squad for injury replacement after training with the team throughout pre-season. The flanker plays for Northland in the Mitre 10 Cup. Sam Cane is rested for the South African tour having sustained an abdominal strain. Jesse Parete also earns a spot on tour after an impressive debut off the bench against the Jaguares where he scored the team’s only try with a powerful run through a determined Jaguares defence.

          The group in South Africa are:

          FORWARDS:

          Karl Tu’inukuafe
          Sam Prattley
          Angus Ta’avao-Matau
          Jeffrey Thwaites
          Sosefo Kautai
          Nathan Harris
          Liam Polwart
          Samisoni Taukei’aho
          Brodie Retallick
          Tyler Ardron
          Michael Allardice
          Luke Jacobson
          Pita Gus Sowakula
          Liam Messam
          Jesse Parete
          Matt Matich

          BACKS:

          Brad Weber
          Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi
          Jonathan Taumateine
          Damian McKenzie
          Marty McKenzie
          Solomon Alaimalo
          Johnny Faauli
          Anton Lienert-Brown
          Charlie Ngatai
          Sean Wainui
          Alex Nankivell
          Shaun Stevenson
          Toni Pulu

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          This is what I suspect we will see named (changes from last week.

          Karl Tu’inukuafe
          Nathan Harris Liam Polwart
          Angus Ta’avao
          Brodie Retallick Tyler Ardron
          Michael Allardice
          Luke Jacobson
          Liam Messam
          Tyler Ardron Pita Gus Sowakula
          Brad Weber
          Damian McKenzieMarty McKenzie
          Solomon Alaimalo
          Johnny Faauli
          Anton Lienert-Brown Charlie Ngatai
          Toni Pulu
          Charlie Ngatai Shaun Stevenson

          Liam Polwart Samisoni Taukei’aho
          Sam Prattley
          Jeff Thwaites
          Jesse Parete
          Pita Gus Sowakula Matt Matich
          Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi
          Marty McKenzie Sean Wainui
          Shaun Stevenson Luteru Laulala

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            This is what I suspect we will see named (changes from last week.

            Karl Tu’inukuafe
            Nathan Harris Liam Polwart
            Angus Ta’avao
            Brodie Retallick Tyler Ardron
            Michael Allardice
            Luke Jacobson
            Liam Messam
            Tyler Ardron Pita Gus Sowakula
            Brad Weber
            Damian McKenzieMarty McKenzie
            Solomon Alaimalo
            Johnny Faauli
            Anton Lienert-Brown Charlie Ngatai
            Toni Pulu
            Charlie Ngatai Shaun Stevenson

            Liam Polwart Samisoni Taukei’aho
            Sam Prattley
            Jeff Thwaites
            Jesse Parete
            Pita Gus Sowakula Matt Matich
            Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi
            Marty McKenzie Sean Wainui
            Shaun Stevenson Luteru Laulala

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            @crucial

            Kautai for Thwaites in the reserves.

            Don't be surprised if it's Alaimalo at fullback and Stevenson on the wing, although the latter is definitely better at fullback and prefers to play there.

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              Chiefs could probably do with dropping down the table to 6th and letting the Highlanders take 5th place otherwise they will get a quarter final against the Canes or Saders.

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                https://twitter.com/Goiley/status/999129272563331072

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                  I hope Boshier is available again.

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                    I hope Boshier is available again.

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                    @bovidae We'll lend you Kiri Kiri.

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                      @bovidae We'll lend you Kiri Kiri.

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                      @tim We've got Liam.

                      Karpik could be over his concussion too but neither are Cane.

                      Edit: Boshier is still not back training. Laulala won't be available until after the June series.

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                        Chiefs coach Colin Cooper has labelled co-captain Sam Cane "unlikely" to return from injury in Saturday night's Super Rugby match against the Crusaders in Hamilton.
                        
                        The All Blacks openside flanker is still struggling with an abdominal injury he picked up early in the month, and is now racing against the clock to be fit for the first test against France in Auckland next Saturday.
                        
                        If the 26-year-old is indeed healed in time for that Eden Park fixture, and he doesn't take the park this weekend, he will go into that opening test with no game-time under his belt since the Chiefs' match against the Reds in Brisbane on April 21.
                        
                        Cane suffered the injury in the leadup to his side's meeting with the Jaguares in Rotorua on May 4, noticing a slight twinge during a gym session, before feeling it pull during a team training.
                        
                        He said it had been diagnosed as an unusual ailment - a strain more often related to a calf or hamstring - and that it didn't altogether cause him too much grief, but just enough to be keeping him out of action, with no timeframe put on a potential return.
                        
                        Currently attending the three-day All Blacks camp in Christchurch, Cane got through some gym work on Monday, but Cooper said his side were preparing to be without him for another game.
                        
                        "Unlikely" was his simple response when asked whether Cane would be ready to face the defending champions, in what is the last round before the international break.
                        
                        It means Mitchell Karpik would be set for another run in the No 7 jersey, having returned from concussion and impressed in the 39-27 win over the Waratahs at FMG Stadium Waikato on Saturday, in what was just his second match of the season, and first start.
                        
                        The Chiefs didn't pick up any injuries out of the weekend, but their other question mark is over lock/loose forward Tyler Ardron, who is still going through concussion protocols following his knock in Durban in the previous round, while prop Sefo Kautai still needs to get through some live scrummaging to be considered for his first action of the season, having picked up a back strain recently, following a foot injury.
                        

                        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/104260155/chiefs-cocaptain-sam-cane-considered-unlikely-for-clash-with-crusaders

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                          Chiefs coach Colin Cooper has labelled co-captain Sam Cane "unlikely" to return from injury in Saturday night's Super Rugby match against the Crusaders in Hamilton.
                          
                          The All Blacks openside flanker is still struggling with an abdominal injury he picked up early in the month, and is now racing against the clock to be fit for the first test against France in Auckland next Saturday.
                          
                          If the 26-year-old is indeed healed in time for that Eden Park fixture, and he doesn't take the park this weekend, he will go into that opening test with no game-time under his belt since the Chiefs' match against the Reds in Brisbane on April 21.
                          
                          Cane suffered the injury in the leadup to his side's meeting with the Jaguares in Rotorua on May 4, noticing a slight twinge during a gym session, before feeling it pull during a team training.
                          
                          He said it had been diagnosed as an unusual ailment - a strain more often related to a calf or hamstring - and that it didn't altogether cause him too much grief, but just enough to be keeping him out of action, with no timeframe put on a potential return.
                          
                          Currently attending the three-day All Blacks camp in Christchurch, Cane got through some gym work on Monday, but Cooper said his side were preparing to be without him for another game.
                          
                          "Unlikely" was his simple response when asked whether Cane would be ready to face the defending champions, in what is the last round before the international break.
                          
                          It means Mitchell Karpik would be set for another run in the No 7 jersey, having returned from concussion and impressed in the 39-27 win over the Waratahs at FMG Stadium Waikato on Saturday, in what was just his second match of the season, and first start.
                          
                          The Chiefs didn't pick up any injuries out of the weekend, but their other question mark is over lock/loose forward Tyler Ardron, who is still going through concussion protocols following his knock in Durban in the previous round, while prop Sefo Kautai still needs to get through some live scrummaging to be considered for his first action of the season, having picked up a back strain recently, following a foot injury.
                          

                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/104260155/chiefs-cocaptain-sam-cane-considered-unlikely-for-clash-with-crusaders

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                          @stargazer Good. His sole focus should be France, not some beady eyed goat botherers.

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                            The Chiefs scrum... are we seeing the birth of the next great scrum coach in Nick White?

                            I just don't understand the dominance we're seeing from our scrum with the cattle available.

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                              The Chiefs scrum... are we seeing the birth of the next great scrum coach in Nick White?

                              I just don't understand the dominance we're seeing from our scrum with the cattle available.

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                              @milk said in Chiefs 2018:

                              The Chiefs scrum... are we seeing the birth of the next great scrum coach in Nick White?

                              I just don't understand the dominance we're seeing from our scrum with the cattle available.

                              It is a surprise of sorts. That said, I think Harris is a good scrummager and Tu’inukuafe was also said to be when he joined. When Ta’avao joined Waratahs the press release said that he'd been recommended by Benn Robinson, the Wallaby LH. It may be his problems at the Blues were down to those around him. In that regard Patty T seems to be hopeless at channeling his undoubted power at scrum time. In contrast, teams with BBBR at 4 seldom take a backward step!

                              Read somewhere that Hames has been 'coaching, and he certainly knows one end of a scrum from the other.

                              Unless Nick White is the man!

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                                @milk said in Chiefs 2018:

                                The Chiefs scrum... are we seeing the birth of the next great scrum coach in Nick White?

                                I just don't understand the dominance we're seeing from our scrum with the cattle available.

                                It is a surprise of sorts. That said, I think Harris is a good scrummager and Tu’inukuafe was also said to be when he joined. When Ta’avao joined Waratahs the press release said that he'd been recommended by Benn Robinson, the Wallaby LH. It may be his problems at the Blues were down to those around him. In that regard Patty T seems to be hopeless at channeling his undoubted power at scrum time. In contrast, teams with BBBR at 4 seldom take a backward step!

                                Read somewhere that Hames has been 'coaching, and he certainly knows one end of a scrum from the other.

                                Unless Nick White is the man!

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                                @pakman said in Chiefs 2018:

                                Read somewhere that Hames has been 'coaching, and he certainly knows one end of a scrum from the other.

                                Interesting point. He comes across as a real student of the scrum. Good point about Ta’avao too, maybe he's got a bad rap.

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                                  Ta’avao would have to be near the top of the list if an AB TH prop fell over.

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                                    Ta'avao was starting way too early in his career. I think he would have better earlier if he was eased into SR and his confidence hadn't taken a beating.
                                    He got exposed and that set his reputation.

                                    By the end of his time at the Blues his scrum work was just inconsistent. Mostly ok, then one shocker of a scrum.
                                    The other frustrating thing about him was the errors around the field. His hands were awful and that added to his negative reputation.

                                    I remember his error rate really costing him in his two years a the Tahs too. Didn't start much, was exclusively a bench player in his second year and ultimately not wanted

                                    He left the Blues at 25 and is now 28. He's not the first prop to get better later in his 20's. Still relatively young.. hopefully he goes well into his 30's

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                                        The poor kid is having a shocking run this year with injuries, would be better than Marty warming the bench

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                                          Sorry, what is the RTP crew? Ready to Party????? Retired to pasture? Surely not retiring?

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