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Chiefs 2018

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  • BovidaeB Bovidae

    A 29-man travelling squad has touched down in South Africa ahead of the two-game South African tour against the Stormers and Sharks. New face Matt Matich joins the squad for injury replacement after training with the team throughout pre-season. The flanker plays for Northland in the Mitre 10 Cup. Sam Cane is rested for the South African tour having sustained an abdominal strain. Jesse Parete also earns a spot on tour after an impressive debut off the bench against the Jaguares where he scored the team’s only try with a powerful run through a determined Jaguares defence.

    The group in South Africa are:

    FORWARDS:

    Karl Tu’inukuafe
    Sam Prattley
    Angus Ta’avao-Matau
    Jeffrey Thwaites
    Sosefo Kautai
    Nathan Harris
    Liam Polwart
    Samisoni Taukei’aho
    Brodie Retallick
    Tyler Ardron
    Michael Allardice
    Luke Jacobson
    Pita Gus Sowakula
    Liam Messam
    Jesse Parete
    Matt Matich

    BACKS:

    Brad Weber
    Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi
    Jonathan Taumateine
    Damian McKenzie
    Marty McKenzie
    Solomon Alaimalo
    Johnny Faauli
    Anton Lienert-Brown
    Charlie Ngatai
    Sean Wainui
    Alex Nankivell
    Shaun Stevenson
    Toni Pulu

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    @bovidae Matich has played a few games for Blues dev side too...

    Very hard working loosie, plays 8 for us, but is a bit small for that at Super level IMO.

    As mentioned over on the super rugby thread, he has the attributes to play 7 as well, but IMO he is more a 6.5, hope he gets a shot!

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      @bovidae Matich has played a few games for Blues dev side too...

      Very hard working loosie, plays 8 for us, but is a bit small for that at Super level IMO.

      As mentioned over on the super rugby thread, he has the attributes to play 7 as well, but IMO he is more a 6.5, hope he gets a shot!

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      @taniwharugby

      I thought they would pick a specialist 7 and Mitch Jacobson would be the obvious choice.

      Parete might be the player they start against the Stormers.

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        @taniwharugby

        I thought they would pick a specialist 7 and Mitch Jacobson would be the obvious choice.

        Parete might be the player they start against the Stormers.

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        @bovidae interesting comment there saying he had been training with the Chiefs too (and playing for Blues dev) but I know Dale MacLeod worked hard behind the scenes to get the Chiefs to have a look at him after another good M10 cup last year.

        Yeah while he has the skillset to be a specialist 7, he isn't.

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          UPDATE: It's great to have Mitch Jacobson and Luteru Laulala join us this week in Durban - welcome guys! The touring team have farewelled Brodie, Anton, Damian and Nathan who have flown home to join the All Blacks camp this weekend.

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          So TTT is able to play this weekend.

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            UPDATE: It's great to have Mitch Jacobson and Luteru Laulala join us this week in Durban - welcome guys! The touring team have farewelled Brodie, Anton, Damian and Nathan who have flown home to join the All Blacks camp this weekend.

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            So TTT is able to play this weekend.

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            @bovidae

            Good to see them both there. Who is the 11th replacement player in the 'Stuff article' though? Of initial 38, only 16 remain. 16 stayed home injured, 4 AB's returning, Aumua left at home as so many midfielders available. That leaves one...?

            I was expecting a lock replacement perhaps - like Tucker. Or have the Blues come calling??

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              @bovidae

              Good to see them both there. Who is the 11th replacement player in the 'Stuff article' though? Of initial 38, only 16 remain. 16 stayed home injured, 4 AB's returning, Aumua left at home as so many midfielders available. That leaves one...?

              I was expecting a lock replacement perhaps - like Tucker. Or have the Blues come calling??

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              @arhs said in Chiefs 2018:

              Who is the 11th replacement player in the 'Stuff article' though? Of initial 38, only 16 remain. 16 stayed home injured, 4 AB's returning, Aumua left at home as so many midfielders available. That leaves one...?

              Of the 29 in the squad to SA these are replacement players:
              Karl Tu’inukuafe
              Sam Prattley
              Angus Ta’avao-Matau
              Jeffrey Thwaites
              Pita Gus Sowakula
              Jesse Parete
              Matt Matich
              Sean Wainui

              Mitch Jacobson
              Luteru Laulala

              So you're right, that is only 10.

              Luke Jacobson was used as a reserve lock in earlier games so he'll probably do the same vs the Sharks. Ardron back to lock. MMac at 1st 5 doesn't inspire confidence.

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                @arhs said in Chiefs 2018:

                Who is the 11th replacement player in the 'Stuff article' though? Of initial 38, only 16 remain. 16 stayed home injured, 4 AB's returning, Aumua left at home as so many midfielders available. That leaves one...?

                Of the 29 in the squad to SA these are replacement players:
                Karl Tu’inukuafe
                Sam Prattley
                Angus Ta’avao-Matau
                Jeffrey Thwaites
                Pita Gus Sowakula
                Jesse Parete
                Matt Matich
                Sean Wainui

                Mitch Jacobson
                Luteru Laulala

                So you're right, that is only 10.

                Luke Jacobson was used as a reserve lock in earlier games so he'll probably do the same vs the Sharks. Ardron back to lock. MMac at 1st 5 doesn't inspire confidence.

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                @bovidae Yeah, Tiaan Falcon posted this on instagram yesterday. Note the hash tag. Would have been great to have him there for the Sharks game.

                Pretty shit being injured but there’s always a positive and that’s spending time with my family ☺️ #2WeeksToGo
                
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                  @bovidae Yeah, Tiaan Falcon posted this on instagram yesterday. Note the hash tag. Would have been great to have him there for the Sharks game.

                  Pretty shit being injured but there’s always a positive and that’s spending time with my family ☺️ #2WeeksToGo
                  
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                  @stargazer

                  That is good news. Glad Laulala is there now though. Means Ngatai can play inside centre, and Laulala covers 15 and 10. Bit worried about the locking cover though.

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                    I'd rather see Ngatai at 10 than MMac.

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                    • BovidaeB Bovidae

                      A 29-man travelling squad has touched down in South Africa ahead of the two-game South African tour against the Stormers and Sharks. New face Matt Matich joins the squad for injury replacement after training with the team throughout pre-season. The flanker plays for Northland in the Mitre 10 Cup. Sam Cane is rested for the South African tour having sustained an abdominal strain. Jesse Parete also earns a spot on tour after an impressive debut off the bench against the Jaguares where he scored the team’s only try with a powerful run through a determined Jaguares defence.

                      The group in South Africa are:

                      FORWARDS:

                      Karl Tu’inukuafe
                      Sam Prattley
                      Angus Ta’avao-Matau
                      Jeffrey Thwaites
                      Sosefo Kautai
                      Nathan Harris
                      Liam Polwart
                      Samisoni Taukei’aho
                      Brodie Retallick
                      Tyler Ardron
                      Michael Allardice
                      Luke Jacobson
                      Pita Gus Sowakula
                      Liam Messam
                      Jesse Parete
                      Matt Matich

                      BACKS:

                      Brad Weber
                      Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi
                      Jonathan Taumateine
                      Damian McKenzie
                      Marty McKenzie
                      Solomon Alaimalo
                      Johnny Faauli
                      Anton Lienert-Brown
                      Charlie Ngatai
                      Sean Wainui
                      Alex Nankivell
                      Shaun Stevenson
                      Toni Pulu

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                      This is what I suspect we will see named (changes from last week.

                      Karl Tu’inukuafe
                      Nathan Harris Liam Polwart
                      Angus Ta’avao
                      Brodie Retallick Tyler Ardron
                      Michael Allardice
                      Luke Jacobson
                      Liam Messam
                      Tyler Ardron Pita Gus Sowakula
                      Brad Weber
                      Damian McKenzieMarty McKenzie
                      Solomon Alaimalo
                      Johnny Faauli
                      Anton Lienert-Brown Charlie Ngatai
                      Toni Pulu
                      Charlie Ngatai Shaun Stevenson

                      Liam Polwart Samisoni Taukei’aho
                      Sam Prattley
                      Jeff Thwaites
                      Jesse Parete
                      Pita Gus Sowakula Matt Matich
                      Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi
                      Marty McKenzie Sean Wainui
                      Shaun Stevenson Luteru Laulala

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                        This is what I suspect we will see named (changes from last week.

                        Karl Tu’inukuafe
                        Nathan Harris Liam Polwart
                        Angus Ta’avao
                        Brodie Retallick Tyler Ardron
                        Michael Allardice
                        Luke Jacobson
                        Liam Messam
                        Tyler Ardron Pita Gus Sowakula
                        Brad Weber
                        Damian McKenzieMarty McKenzie
                        Solomon Alaimalo
                        Johnny Faauli
                        Anton Lienert-Brown Charlie Ngatai
                        Toni Pulu
                        Charlie Ngatai Shaun Stevenson

                        Liam Polwart Samisoni Taukei’aho
                        Sam Prattley
                        Jeff Thwaites
                        Jesse Parete
                        Pita Gus Sowakula Matt Matich
                        Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi
                        Marty McKenzie Sean Wainui
                        Shaun Stevenson Luteru Laulala

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                        @crucial

                        Kautai for Thwaites in the reserves.

                        Don't be surprised if it's Alaimalo at fullback and Stevenson on the wing, although the latter is definitely better at fullback and prefers to play there.

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                          Chiefs could probably do with dropping down the table to 6th and letting the Highlanders take 5th place otherwise they will get a quarter final against the Canes or Saders.

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                            https://twitter.com/Goiley/status/999129272563331072

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                              I hope Boshier is available again.

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                                I hope Boshier is available again.

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                                @bovidae We'll lend you Kiri Kiri.

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                                  @bovidae We'll lend you Kiri Kiri.

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                                  @tim We've got Liam.

                                  Karpik could be over his concussion too but neither are Cane.

                                  Edit: Boshier is still not back training. Laulala won't be available until after the June series.

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                                    Chiefs coach Colin Cooper has labelled co-captain Sam Cane "unlikely" to return from injury in Saturday night's Super Rugby match against the Crusaders in Hamilton.
                                    
                                    The All Blacks openside flanker is still struggling with an abdominal injury he picked up early in the month, and is now racing against the clock to be fit for the first test against France in Auckland next Saturday.
                                    
                                    If the 26-year-old is indeed healed in time for that Eden Park fixture, and he doesn't take the park this weekend, he will go into that opening test with no game-time under his belt since the Chiefs' match against the Reds in Brisbane on April 21.
                                    
                                    Cane suffered the injury in the leadup to his side's meeting with the Jaguares in Rotorua on May 4, noticing a slight twinge during a gym session, before feeling it pull during a team training.
                                    
                                    He said it had been diagnosed as an unusual ailment - a strain more often related to a calf or hamstring - and that it didn't altogether cause him too much grief, but just enough to be keeping him out of action, with no timeframe put on a potential return.
                                    
                                    Currently attending the three-day All Blacks camp in Christchurch, Cane got through some gym work on Monday, but Cooper said his side were preparing to be without him for another game.
                                    
                                    "Unlikely" was his simple response when asked whether Cane would be ready to face the defending champions, in what is the last round before the international break.
                                    
                                    It means Mitchell Karpik would be set for another run in the No 7 jersey, having returned from concussion and impressed in the 39-27 win over the Waratahs at FMG Stadium Waikato on Saturday, in what was just his second match of the season, and first start.
                                    
                                    The Chiefs didn't pick up any injuries out of the weekend, but their other question mark is over lock/loose forward Tyler Ardron, who is still going through concussion protocols following his knock in Durban in the previous round, while prop Sefo Kautai still needs to get through some live scrummaging to be considered for his first action of the season, having picked up a back strain recently, following a foot injury.
                                    

                                    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/104260155/chiefs-cocaptain-sam-cane-considered-unlikely-for-clash-with-crusaders

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                                      Chiefs coach Colin Cooper has labelled co-captain Sam Cane "unlikely" to return from injury in Saturday night's Super Rugby match against the Crusaders in Hamilton.
                                      
                                      The All Blacks openside flanker is still struggling with an abdominal injury he picked up early in the month, and is now racing against the clock to be fit for the first test against France in Auckland next Saturday.
                                      
                                      If the 26-year-old is indeed healed in time for that Eden Park fixture, and he doesn't take the park this weekend, he will go into that opening test with no game-time under his belt since the Chiefs' match against the Reds in Brisbane on April 21.
                                      
                                      Cane suffered the injury in the leadup to his side's meeting with the Jaguares in Rotorua on May 4, noticing a slight twinge during a gym session, before feeling it pull during a team training.
                                      
                                      He said it had been diagnosed as an unusual ailment - a strain more often related to a calf or hamstring - and that it didn't altogether cause him too much grief, but just enough to be keeping him out of action, with no timeframe put on a potential return.
                                      
                                      Currently attending the three-day All Blacks camp in Christchurch, Cane got through some gym work on Monday, but Cooper said his side were preparing to be without him for another game.
                                      
                                      "Unlikely" was his simple response when asked whether Cane would be ready to face the defending champions, in what is the last round before the international break.
                                      
                                      It means Mitchell Karpik would be set for another run in the No 7 jersey, having returned from concussion and impressed in the 39-27 win over the Waratahs at FMG Stadium Waikato on Saturday, in what was just his second match of the season, and first start.
                                      
                                      The Chiefs didn't pick up any injuries out of the weekend, but their other question mark is over lock/loose forward Tyler Ardron, who is still going through concussion protocols following his knock in Durban in the previous round, while prop Sefo Kautai still needs to get through some live scrummaging to be considered for his first action of the season, having picked up a back strain recently, following a foot injury.
                                      

                                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/104260155/chiefs-cocaptain-sam-cane-considered-unlikely-for-clash-with-crusaders

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                                      @stargazer Good. His sole focus should be France, not some beady eyed goat botherers.

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                                        The Chiefs scrum... are we seeing the birth of the next great scrum coach in Nick White?

                                        I just don't understand the dominance we're seeing from our scrum with the cattle available.

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                                          The Chiefs scrum... are we seeing the birth of the next great scrum coach in Nick White?

                                          I just don't understand the dominance we're seeing from our scrum with the cattle available.

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                                          @milk said in Chiefs 2018:

                                          The Chiefs scrum... are we seeing the birth of the next great scrum coach in Nick White?

                                          I just don't understand the dominance we're seeing from our scrum with the cattle available.

                                          It is a surprise of sorts. That said, I think Harris is a good scrummager and Tu’inukuafe was also said to be when he joined. When Ta’avao joined Waratahs the press release said that he'd been recommended by Benn Robinson, the Wallaby LH. It may be his problems at the Blues were down to those around him. In that regard Patty T seems to be hopeless at channeling his undoubted power at scrum time. In contrast, teams with BBBR at 4 seldom take a backward step!

                                          Read somewhere that Hames has been 'coaching, and he certainly knows one end of a scrum from the other.

                                          Unless Nick White is the man!

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