Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****
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@tim said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
Social issues were always part of Star Trek, the original show tackled racism notably.
Star Wars was designed to teach basic right/wrong to 12 year olds (according to Lucas) and be a fun Flash Gordon like serial.
It sucks the fun out when far-left politics gets inserted.
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@tim said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@kirwan I just posted that goofy photo because it amused me, and I wanted to annoy the Star Wars dorks.
Star Trek
iswas a poor man's Star Wars.Now both are in a do or die battle to be the most woke. Reckon Star Trek is still a way ahead.
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@rancid-schnitzel Star Wars is for kids and man-children. Trek is for semi-ironic appreciation by adults.
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@tim said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@rancid-schnitzel Star Wars is for kids and man-children. Trek is for semi-ironic appreciation by adults.
Serious question. Do proper Star Trek
losersfans even acknowledge the new films or the latest TV show? I think I recall you being rather pissed off the new Kahn. -
@rancid-schnitzel Mostly we pretend they don't exist. They have little in common with the old Trek besides the name. They certainly don't offer interesting ideas, or a future world that you'd want to live in.
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@kirwan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@tim said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
Social issues were always part of Star Trek, the original show tackled racism notably.
Star Wars was designed to teach basic right/wrong to 12 year olds (according to Lucas) and be a fun Flash Gordon like serial.
It sucks the fun out when far-left politics gets inserted.
Star Trek came out when those were important issues. Seems incredible now that the first interracial kiss was actually a big deal. What I liked, in addition to the multiracial crew, is the fact they also had a Russian. That must have caused a stir back then.
As much as these idiots might argue otherwise, retroactively making Lando pansexual isn't anywhere same thing. It's just a pathetic attempt to inject his own SJW politics into a franchise that was never about this crap. As you said it's a glorified B-film. Buck Rogers on steroids.
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@mn5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@canefan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
Nichelle Nicholls being casted as Uhura, ie someone in an authority position, was big too
Get this discussion off this thread. Star Trek is shit.
Jeez, there's more triggering on here than the Trump thread
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@canefan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@mn5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@canefan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
Nichelle Nicholls being casted as Uhura, ie someone in an authority position, was big too
Get this discussion off this thread. Star Trek is shit.
Jeez, there's more triggering on here than the Trump thread
Not sure about that. It's not like I'm demanding they include a transexual interspecies alien so the minority have something to relate to.
I just called out Star Wars for being shit. Cos it is.
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@mn5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@canefan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@mn5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@canefan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
Nichelle Nicholls being casted as Uhura, ie someone in an authority position, was big too
Get this discussion off this thread. Star Trek is shit.
Jeez, there's more triggering on here than the Trump thread
Not sure about that. It's not like I'm demanding they include a transexual interspecies alien so the minority have something to relate to.
I just called out Star Wars for being shit. Cos it is.
A big breakthrough for you.
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@mn5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@canefan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@mn5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@canefan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
Nichelle Nicholls being casted as Uhura, ie someone in an authority position, was big too
Get this discussion off this thread. Star Trek is shit.
Jeez, there's more triggering on here than the Trump thread
Not sure about that. It's not like I'm demanding they include a transexual interspecies alien so the minority have something to relate to.
I just called out Star Wars for being shit. Cos it is.
Dude?
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@mn5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@canefan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
Nichelle Nicholls being casted as Uhura, ie someone in an authority position, was big too
Get this discussion off this thread. Star Trek is shit.
Tbh I enjoyed the first two new ST films than the new SW ones. Wouldn't never pay to see a ST film though.
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@canefan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
I have simple tastes as far as SW is concerned.
I'm just going to go along and watch the film at face value. Star wars takes me back to being a kid again for a couple of hours and that's fine with meYes, a more simple time when film makers didn't have an urge to ram their identity politics down people's throats. Pity those times are long past.
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@tim said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@mn5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@canefan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@mn5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@canefan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
Nichelle Nicholls being casted as Uhura, ie someone in an authority position, was big too
Get this discussion off this thread. Star Trek is shit.
Jeez, there's more triggering on here than the Trump thread
Not sure about that. It's not like I'm demanding they include a transexual interspecies alien so the minority have something to relate to.
I just called out Star Wars for being shit. Cos it is.
A big breakthrough for you.
Oh dear. Auto correct and not paying attention really didn't help my cause just there...
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@rancid-schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@canefan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
I have simple tastes as far as SW is concerned.
I'm just going to go along and watch the film at face value. Star wars takes me back to being a kid again for a couple of hours and that's fine with meYes, a more simple time when film makers didn't have an urge to ram their identity politics down people's throats. Pity those times are long past.
I don't think George Lucas was thinking that deeply in 1977. But film makers have always been liberal types, didn't McCarthy see them as all being communists?
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@canefan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@canefan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
I have simple tastes as far as SW is concerned.
I'm just going to go along and watch the film at face value. Star wars takes me back to being a kid again for a couple of hours and that's fine with meYes, a more simple time when film makers didn't have an urge to ram their identity politics down people's throats. Pity those times are long past.
I don't think George Lucas was thinking that deeply in 1977. But film makers have always been liberal types, didn't McCarthy see them as all being communists?
Creative types generally are more liberal. I get that people don't want movies they otherwise like having a slant that they see as political and don't agree with but FFS movies are fantasy anyway. See how many sci-fi/dystopian future type movies are about worlds ruined by wars/greed over resources or facist-like power grabs. It's always been there, just hasn't always had the silly labels attached to it.
Anyway, I have tickets to Solo after work on Thursday and am looking forward to it. Not expecting anything other than a reasonably decent bit of fun set in the SW universe. In fact if it was pitched at 10-12 year olds it would probably be great.
