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Blues 2019

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  • ARHSA ARHS

    @tim

    Yeah, can't help but think the coaching decision was influenced by the ability of MacDonald to attract a few under-utilised Crusaders north, and still allow Umaga to retain those loyal to him. If he was to have gone, how many of the better players would have followed suit I wonder? I do expect a stronger playing roster with this coaching team.

    Ennor, Macilai, Stratton, Sanders, Strange, Jager all may be under-employed by staying put. But, the Crusaders do better than anyone else in keeping their players put.

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    @arhs said in Blues 2019:

    @tim

    Yeah, can't help but think the coaching decision was influenced by the ability of MacDonald to attract a few under-utilised Crusaders north, and still allow Umaga to retain those loyal to him. If he was to have gone, how many of the better players would have followed suit I wonder? I do expect a stronger playing roster with this coaching team.

    Ennor, Macilai, Stratton, Sanders, Strange, Jager all may be under-employed by staying put. But, the Crusaders do better than anyone else in keeping their players put.

    Of these players, Ennor, Sanders and Jager are all contracted to the Crusaders next year or the year after. I'm only certain that Macilai will be off-contract after the 2018 season.

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      I'd imagine there will be a few fringe players that Leon might help to sign, but I doubt there will be many if any big guns who aren't already nailed down elsewhere.

      I'd be looking to see whether he could bring Makalio and a fullback - any of Havili, Bridge, Jordan or Dagg.

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        Super Rugby is attractive to a Kiwi on the way to retirement:

        It's home. Some of us have had the choice of minting it in Europe and chosen to come back. That you are used to living overseas doesn't make it home.

        It's less stress. Mainly because the season is so much shorter, so a Super series coach can actually get a long holiday.

        It'll come down to what their wives want in some cases, so we'll never know. Warren might be enjoying Europe, but is Trudi? Does being close to family over-ride money?

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          The other thing to remember is that being a Super rugby coach is hardly a minimum wage job. Im sure after a decade of coaching Wales and a couple of BIL tours Gatland won't have too much of a mortgage to pay off.

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          • BonesB Bones

            @gt12 said in Blues 2019:

            @bones

            Not bad, but I was going for Helplessly Hoping.

            Which they are lyrics for!

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            @bones

            Oops 🙂

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            • TimT Away
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              #121

              It's about time we reflect on who from this years squad should stay and who should go. This is made harder this year by all the injuries.

              OUT:

              Apisai
              Taramai
              Kiri Kiri
              Pryor only stays on as 3rd choice 7, so dev squad.
              Nock
              Gatland - OK backup, but gone to Highlanders
              Kirkpatrick - filler
              Hyland - too slow
              Johnson - serious heart surgery
              Moala - overseas

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                Apisai signed a two year deal didn't he?

                He should be de-listed.

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                  The definite selections for next year.

                  IN:

                  Hodgman
                  P. Manu - good for squad depth, good scrummager
                  Ofa
                  Scrafton - coming back from a serious knee injury though.
                  Cowley-Tuioti
                  Goodhue - finally started to hit his straps at this level. Good against Jaguares until concussed.
                  Tuipulotu - I see him as primarily a bench option though
                  Papali'i
                  Gibson
                  A. Ioane
                  Pulu - prefer him off the bench ...
                  Perofeta
                  Black
                  SBW
                  Leger - looks like a good prospect for the midfield
                  T. Manu - looks to have the ability at this level, be interesting where he plays for Auckland
                  R. Ioane
                  Clarke
                  Duffie

                  That's 19 players.

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                  • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                    Apisai signed a two year deal didn't he?

                    He should be de-listed.

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                    @kiwimurph Ugh. Unfortunately it looks like it.

                    http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2017/08/blues-sign-hurricanes-hooker-leni-apisai-until-2019.html

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                    • TimT Tim

                      The definite selections for next year.

                      IN:

                      Hodgman
                      P. Manu - good for squad depth, good scrummager
                      Ofa
                      Scrafton - coming back from a serious knee injury though.
                      Cowley-Tuioti
                      Goodhue - finally started to hit his straps at this level. Good against Jaguares until concussed.
                      Tuipulotu - I see him as primarily a bench option though
                      Papali'i
                      Gibson
                      A. Ioane
                      Pulu - prefer him off the bench ...
                      Perofeta
                      Black
                      SBW
                      Leger - looks like a good prospect for the midfield
                      T. Manu - looks to have the ability at this level, be interesting where he plays for Auckland
                      R. Ioane
                      Clarke
                      Duffie

                      That's 19 players.

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                      @tim did Tamati Tua sign for 2 years?

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                        As discussed earlier in the thread i think Hooker is somewhere they need to find someone.
                        It is one of those positions that seem to be key to a good team.
                        9 is the other spot they need an upgrade. Pulu just isn't the answer.
                        Im afraid however that both Parsons and Pulu are cemented in while Tana is in charge.

                        Other than those two positions the building blocks seem to be there to make a decent team. They just need a decent architect and builder.

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                          I wonder if Isa Nacewa will join the Blues next season as an assistant coach after retiring from Leinster, he could be very useful

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                            I wonder if Isa Nacewa will join the Blues next season as an assistant coach after retiring from Leinster, he could be very useful

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                            @comets he was involved as a coach with the Blues a few years ago under Kirwan.

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                              @comets he was involved as a coach with the Blues a few years ago under Kirwan.

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                              @kiwimurph
                              yeah i'm aware thus why i asked, its very likely that he might become a coach but Leon and Isa are a bit same except Isa has played in more positions and Leon has played in more international tests..they are both also known for their kicking game, so maybe Isa might join another franchise (hopefully the Highlanders who will need a kicking coach to develop new playmakers after Sopoaga leaves this month)

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                                @kiwimurph
                                yeah i'm aware thus why i asked, its very likely that he might become a coach but Leon and Isa are a bit same except Isa has played in more positions and Leon has played in more international tests..they are both also known for their kicking game, so maybe Isa might join another franchise (hopefully the Highlanders who will need a kicking coach to develop new playmakers after Sopoaga leaves this month)

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                                @comets didn't he go back to Ireland due to the tax rules? Would that rule him out?

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                                  @comets didn't he go back to Ireland due to the tax rules? Would that rule him out?

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                                  @bones yeah his mistake was that he kept his NZ passport, he still has it and he never got around to getting a Fijian passport so basically he cannot stay in Ireland for much longer unless he gets a job there and i'm not sure Leinster are looking for a backline coach right now and also, Isa's family are all in NZ including his wife and kids so i don't see why he will stick around in Ireland unless he gets a major coaching gig which would allow him to move his whole family there, remember he "re-signed" with Leinster only for a season which dragged to 2 seasons s his visa has definitely run out..

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                                    Brilliant news.

                                    http://theblues.co.nz/nz-u20-trio-commit-to-the-blues/

                                    Three players from the Blues and NZ U20s have been signed for the next two years. Congrats Harry Plummer, Taniela Tele’a and Hoskins Sotutu.
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                                      IIRC last time Isa retired he went into TV gigs and was very good.

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                                        http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/104289853/michael-collins-pens-oneyear-extension-with-blues

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                                        • TimT Tim

                                          http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/104289853/michael-collins-pens-oneyear-extension-with-blues

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                                          @tim

                                          Fullback Michael Collins has re-signed with the Blues for 2019, believing that better days are just around the corner for the beleaguered franchise.

                                          So confident is he, that he's prepared to stick around for the long term a year...

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