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Blues 2019

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  • DuluthD Offline
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    Duluth
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    #110

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/opinion/103995227/the-blues-coaching-shakeup--all-you-need-to-know-about-the-tana-and-leon-show

    Interesting to note that the pass/fail mark is making the semi finals

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    • TimT Offline
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      I wonder if MacDonald will bring any Ta$man/Crusaders players with him? Who's off contract?

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      • TimT Tim

        I wonder if MacDonald will bring any Ta$man/Crusaders players with him? Who's off contract?

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        @tim said in Blues 2019:

        I wonder if MacDonald will bring any Ta$man/Crusaders players with him? Who's off contract?

        Edited: A Ta$man player in the Crusaders squad, who may be off contract (uncertain, because they never indicated the duration of his contract) is Quinten Strange. Pete Samu is off-contract, but I think it's more likely he'll go to Australia if he isn't staying at the Crusaders.

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        • Chris B.C Offline
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          #113

          @Tim Billy Guyton and Sam Prattley! 🙂

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          • TimT Tim

            I wonder if MacDonald will bring any Ta$man/Crusaders players with him? Who's off contract?

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            #114

            @tim

            Yeah, can't help but think the coaching decision was influenced by the ability of MacDonald to attract a few under-utilised Crusaders north, and still allow Umaga to retain those loyal to him. If he was to have gone, how many of the better players would have followed suit I wonder? I do expect a stronger playing roster with this coaching team.

            Ennor, Macilai, Stratton, Sanders, Strange, Jager all may be under-employed by staying put. But, the Crusaders do better than anyone else in keeping their players put.

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            • gt12G gt12

              @bones

              Not bad, but I was going for Helplessly Hoping.

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              #115

              @gt12 said in Blues 2019:

              @bones

              Not bad, but I was going for Helplessly Hoping.

              Which they are lyrics for!

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              • ARHSA ARHS

                @tim

                Yeah, can't help but think the coaching decision was influenced by the ability of MacDonald to attract a few under-utilised Crusaders north, and still allow Umaga to retain those loyal to him. If he was to have gone, how many of the better players would have followed suit I wonder? I do expect a stronger playing roster with this coaching team.

                Ennor, Macilai, Stratton, Sanders, Strange, Jager all may be under-employed by staying put. But, the Crusaders do better than anyone else in keeping their players put.

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                #116

                @arhs said in Blues 2019:

                @tim

                Yeah, can't help but think the coaching decision was influenced by the ability of MacDonald to attract a few under-utilised Crusaders north, and still allow Umaga to retain those loyal to him. If he was to have gone, how many of the better players would have followed suit I wonder? I do expect a stronger playing roster with this coaching team.

                Ennor, Macilai, Stratton, Sanders, Strange, Jager all may be under-employed by staying put. But, the Crusaders do better than anyone else in keeping their players put.

                Of these players, Ennor, Sanders and Jager are all contracted to the Crusaders next year or the year after. I'm only certain that Macilai will be off-contract after the 2018 season.

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                • Chris B.C Offline
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                  #117

                  I'd imagine there will be a few fringe players that Leon might help to sign, but I doubt there will be many if any big guns who aren't already nailed down elsewhere.

                  I'd be looking to see whether he could bring Makalio and a fullback - any of Havili, Bridge, Jordan or Dagg.

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                  • Chester DrawsC Offline
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                    #118

                    Super Rugby is attractive to a Kiwi on the way to retirement:

                    It's home. Some of us have had the choice of minting it in Europe and chosen to come back. That you are used to living overseas doesn't make it home.

                    It's less stress. Mainly because the season is so much shorter, so a Super series coach can actually get a long holiday.

                    It'll come down to what their wives want in some cases, so we'll never know. Warren might be enjoying Europe, but is Trudi? Does being close to family over-ride money?

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                      The other thing to remember is that being a Super rugby coach is hardly a minimum wage job. Im sure after a decade of coaching Wales and a couple of BIL tours Gatland won't have too much of a mortgage to pay off.

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                      • BonesB Bones

                        @gt12 said in Blues 2019:

                        @bones

                        Not bad, but I was going for Helplessly Hoping.

                        Which they are lyrics for!

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                        #120

                        @bones

                        Oops 🙂

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                        • TimT Offline
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                          wrote on last edited by Tim
                          #121

                          It's about time we reflect on who from this years squad should stay and who should go. This is made harder this year by all the injuries.

                          OUT:

                          Apisai
                          Taramai
                          Kiri Kiri
                          Pryor only stays on as 3rd choice 7, so dev squad.
                          Nock
                          Gatland - OK backup, but gone to Highlanders
                          Kirkpatrick - filler
                          Hyland - too slow
                          Johnson - serious heart surgery
                          Moala - overseas

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                            Apisai signed a two year deal didn't he?

                            He should be de-listed.

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                              The definite selections for next year.

                              IN:

                              Hodgman
                              P. Manu - good for squad depth, good scrummager
                              Ofa
                              Scrafton - coming back from a serious knee injury though.
                              Cowley-Tuioti
                              Goodhue - finally started to hit his straps at this level. Good against Jaguares until concussed.
                              Tuipulotu - I see him as primarily a bench option though
                              Papali'i
                              Gibson
                              A. Ioane
                              Pulu - prefer him off the bench ...
                              Perofeta
                              Black
                              SBW
                              Leger - looks like a good prospect for the midfield
                              T. Manu - looks to have the ability at this level, be interesting where he plays for Auckland
                              R. Ioane
                              Clarke
                              Duffie

                              That's 19 players.

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                              • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                Apisai signed a two year deal didn't he?

                                He should be de-listed.

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                                #124

                                @kiwimurph Ugh. Unfortunately it looks like it.

                                http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2017/08/blues-sign-hurricanes-hooker-leni-apisai-until-2019.html

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                                • TimT Tim

                                  The definite selections for next year.

                                  IN:

                                  Hodgman
                                  P. Manu - good for squad depth, good scrummager
                                  Ofa
                                  Scrafton - coming back from a serious knee injury though.
                                  Cowley-Tuioti
                                  Goodhue - finally started to hit his straps at this level. Good against Jaguares until concussed.
                                  Tuipulotu - I see him as primarily a bench option though
                                  Papali'i
                                  Gibson
                                  A. Ioane
                                  Pulu - prefer him off the bench ...
                                  Perofeta
                                  Black
                                  SBW
                                  Leger - looks like a good prospect for the midfield
                                  T. Manu - looks to have the ability at this level, be interesting where he plays for Auckland
                                  R. Ioane
                                  Clarke
                                  Duffie

                                  That's 19 players.

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                                  taniwharugby
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                                  #125

                                  @tim did Tamati Tua sign for 2 years?

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                                    As discussed earlier in the thread i think Hooker is somewhere they need to find someone.
                                    It is one of those positions that seem to be key to a good team.
                                    9 is the other spot they need an upgrade. Pulu just isn't the answer.
                                    Im afraid however that both Parsons and Pulu are cemented in while Tana is in charge.

                                    Other than those two positions the building blocks seem to be there to make a decent team. They just need a decent architect and builder.

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                                      comets
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                                      #127

                                      I wonder if Isa Nacewa will join the Blues next season as an assistant coach after retiring from Leinster, he could be very useful

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                                        I wonder if Isa Nacewa will join the Blues next season as an assistant coach after retiring from Leinster, he could be very useful

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                                        KiwiMurph
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                                        #128

                                        @comets he was involved as a coach with the Blues a few years ago under Kirwan.

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                                        • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                          @comets he was involved as a coach with the Blues a few years ago under Kirwan.

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                                          comets
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                                          #129

                                          @kiwimurph
                                          yeah i'm aware thus why i asked, its very likely that he might become a coach but Leon and Isa are a bit same except Isa has played in more positions and Leon has played in more international tests..they are both also known for their kicking game, so maybe Isa might join another franchise (hopefully the Highlanders who will need a kicking coach to develop new playmakers after Sopoaga leaves this month)

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