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Blues 2019

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  • TimT Away
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    I wonder if MacDonald will bring any Ta$man/Crusaders players with him? Who's off contract?

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    • TimT Tim

      I wonder if MacDonald will bring any Ta$man/Crusaders players with him? Who's off contract?

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      @tim said in Blues 2019:

      I wonder if MacDonald will bring any Ta$man/Crusaders players with him? Who's off contract?

      Edited: A Ta$man player in the Crusaders squad, who may be off contract (uncertain, because they never indicated the duration of his contract) is Quinten Strange. Pete Samu is off-contract, but I think it's more likely he'll go to Australia if he isn't staying at the Crusaders.

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        @Tim Billy Guyton and Sam Prattley! 🙂

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        • TimT Tim

          I wonder if MacDonald will bring any Ta$man/Crusaders players with him? Who's off contract?

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          @tim

          Yeah, can't help but think the coaching decision was influenced by the ability of MacDonald to attract a few under-utilised Crusaders north, and still allow Umaga to retain those loyal to him. If he was to have gone, how many of the better players would have followed suit I wonder? I do expect a stronger playing roster with this coaching team.

          Ennor, Macilai, Stratton, Sanders, Strange, Jager all may be under-employed by staying put. But, the Crusaders do better than anyone else in keeping their players put.

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            @bones

            Not bad, but I was going for Helplessly Hoping.

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            @gt12 said in Blues 2019:

            @bones

            Not bad, but I was going for Helplessly Hoping.

            Which they are lyrics for!

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            • ARHSA ARHS

              @tim

              Yeah, can't help but think the coaching decision was influenced by the ability of MacDonald to attract a few under-utilised Crusaders north, and still allow Umaga to retain those loyal to him. If he was to have gone, how many of the better players would have followed suit I wonder? I do expect a stronger playing roster with this coaching team.

              Ennor, Macilai, Stratton, Sanders, Strange, Jager all may be under-employed by staying put. But, the Crusaders do better than anyone else in keeping their players put.

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              @arhs said in Blues 2019:

              @tim

              Yeah, can't help but think the coaching decision was influenced by the ability of MacDonald to attract a few under-utilised Crusaders north, and still allow Umaga to retain those loyal to him. If he was to have gone, how many of the better players would have followed suit I wonder? I do expect a stronger playing roster with this coaching team.

              Ennor, Macilai, Stratton, Sanders, Strange, Jager all may be under-employed by staying put. But, the Crusaders do better than anyone else in keeping their players put.

              Of these players, Ennor, Sanders and Jager are all contracted to the Crusaders next year or the year after. I'm only certain that Macilai will be off-contract after the 2018 season.

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                I'd imagine there will be a few fringe players that Leon might help to sign, but I doubt there will be many if any big guns who aren't already nailed down elsewhere.

                I'd be looking to see whether he could bring Makalio and a fullback - any of Havili, Bridge, Jordan or Dagg.

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                  Super Rugby is attractive to a Kiwi on the way to retirement:

                  It's home. Some of us have had the choice of minting it in Europe and chosen to come back. That you are used to living overseas doesn't make it home.

                  It's less stress. Mainly because the season is so much shorter, so a Super series coach can actually get a long holiday.

                  It'll come down to what their wives want in some cases, so we'll never know. Warren might be enjoying Europe, but is Trudi? Does being close to family over-ride money?

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                    The other thing to remember is that being a Super rugby coach is hardly a minimum wage job. Im sure after a decade of coaching Wales and a couple of BIL tours Gatland won't have too much of a mortgage to pay off.

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                    • BonesB Bones

                      @gt12 said in Blues 2019:

                      @bones

                      Not bad, but I was going for Helplessly Hoping.

                      Which they are lyrics for!

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                      @bones

                      Oops 🙂

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                        #121

                        It's about time we reflect on who from this years squad should stay and who should go. This is made harder this year by all the injuries.

                        OUT:

                        Apisai
                        Taramai
                        Kiri Kiri
                        Pryor only stays on as 3rd choice 7, so dev squad.
                        Nock
                        Gatland - OK backup, but gone to Highlanders
                        Kirkpatrick - filler
                        Hyland - too slow
                        Johnson - serious heart surgery
                        Moala - overseas

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                          Apisai signed a two year deal didn't he?

                          He should be de-listed.

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                            The definite selections for next year.

                            IN:

                            Hodgman
                            P. Manu - good for squad depth, good scrummager
                            Ofa
                            Scrafton - coming back from a serious knee injury though.
                            Cowley-Tuioti
                            Goodhue - finally started to hit his straps at this level. Good against Jaguares until concussed.
                            Tuipulotu - I see him as primarily a bench option though
                            Papali'i
                            Gibson
                            A. Ioane
                            Pulu - prefer him off the bench ...
                            Perofeta
                            Black
                            SBW
                            Leger - looks like a good prospect for the midfield
                            T. Manu - looks to have the ability at this level, be interesting where he plays for Auckland
                            R. Ioane
                            Clarke
                            Duffie

                            That's 19 players.

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                              Apisai signed a two year deal didn't he?

                              He should be de-listed.

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                              @kiwimurph Ugh. Unfortunately it looks like it.

                              http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2017/08/blues-sign-hurricanes-hooker-leni-apisai-until-2019.html

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                              • TimT Tim

                                The definite selections for next year.

                                IN:

                                Hodgman
                                P. Manu - good for squad depth, good scrummager
                                Ofa
                                Scrafton - coming back from a serious knee injury though.
                                Cowley-Tuioti
                                Goodhue - finally started to hit his straps at this level. Good against Jaguares until concussed.
                                Tuipulotu - I see him as primarily a bench option though
                                Papali'i
                                Gibson
                                A. Ioane
                                Pulu - prefer him off the bench ...
                                Perofeta
                                Black
                                SBW
                                Leger - looks like a good prospect for the midfield
                                T. Manu - looks to have the ability at this level, be interesting where he plays for Auckland
                                R. Ioane
                                Clarke
                                Duffie

                                That's 19 players.

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                                taniwharugby
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                                @tim did Tamati Tua sign for 2 years?

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                                  As discussed earlier in the thread i think Hooker is somewhere they need to find someone.
                                  It is one of those positions that seem to be key to a good team.
                                  9 is the other spot they need an upgrade. Pulu just isn't the answer.
                                  Im afraid however that both Parsons and Pulu are cemented in while Tana is in charge.

                                  Other than those two positions the building blocks seem to be there to make a decent team. They just need a decent architect and builder.

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                                    comets
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                                    I wonder if Isa Nacewa will join the Blues next season as an assistant coach after retiring from Leinster, he could be very useful

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                                      I wonder if Isa Nacewa will join the Blues next season as an assistant coach after retiring from Leinster, he could be very useful

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                                      @comets he was involved as a coach with the Blues a few years ago under Kirwan.

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                                        @comets he was involved as a coach with the Blues a few years ago under Kirwan.

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                                        @kiwimurph
                                        yeah i'm aware thus why i asked, its very likely that he might become a coach but Leon and Isa are a bit same except Isa has played in more positions and Leon has played in more international tests..they are both also known for their kicking game, so maybe Isa might join another franchise (hopefully the Highlanders who will need a kicking coach to develop new playmakers after Sopoaga leaves this month)

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                                          @kiwimurph
                                          yeah i'm aware thus why i asked, its very likely that he might become a coach but Leon and Isa are a bit same except Isa has played in more positions and Leon has played in more international tests..they are both also known for their kicking game, so maybe Isa might join another franchise (hopefully the Highlanders who will need a kicking coach to develop new playmakers after Sopoaga leaves this month)

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                                          @comets didn't he go back to Ireland due to the tax rules? Would that rule him out?

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