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All Blacks v France Test 3

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    #202

    Naholo, goodhue, sbw, Mckenzie, savea, frizzell in starting 15. Coltman, hemopo, Todd, mounga on bench

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    • SouthernMannS SouthernMann

      Naholo, goodhue, sbw, Mckenzie, savea, frizzell in starting 15. Coltman, hemopo, Todd, mounga on bench

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      @southernmann so basically what Sumo said.

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      • TimT Tim

        Some top level whining bullshit:

        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/104875518/fifteen-against-16-for-every-test-against-all-blacks-claims-french-prop

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        #204

        @tim said in All Blacks v France Test 3:

        Some top level whining bullshit:

        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/104875518/fifteen-against-16-for-every-test-against-all-blacks-claims-french-prop

        To make a more serious refute.

        "But he had his eyes on the ball the whole time, he never stopped looking at the ball and at worst it was a yellow card.

        "The week before Ofa Tu'ungafasi put a shoulder to a head and that should have been a red card.

        Wait. Why is the judicial officer decision correct when it exonerates the Frenchmen but he thinks the judicial officer decision was wrong when it exonerates Ofa T?

        Is it coz he's Tongan? Bloody Samoan .....

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        • RapidoR Rapido

          @tim said in All Blacks v France Test 3:

          Some top level whining bullshit:

          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/104875518/fifteen-against-16-for-every-test-against-all-blacks-claims-french-prop

          To make a more serious refute.

          "But he had his eyes on the ball the whole time, he never stopped looking at the ball and at worst it was a yellow card.

          "The week before Ofa Tu'ungafasi put a shoulder to a head and that should have been a red card.

          Wait. Why is the judicial officer decision correct when it exonerates the Frenchmen but he thinks the judicial officer decision was wrong when it exonerates Ofa T?

          Is it coz he's Tongan? Bloody Samoan .....

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          taniwharugby
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          @rapido bro, they let it go, why do you keep bringing it up!

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            #206

            I would go with (but it won't happen) :

            Moody
            Taylor
            Franks
            Franklin
            Whitelock
            Barrett
            Todd
            Whitelock
            Smith
            Mounga
            Naholo
            SBW
            Ioane
            Smith
            Barrett

            Coltman
            Tu'inukuafe
            Tuungafasi
            Frizell
            Cane
            TJP
            DMac
            ALB

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            • C cgrant

              I would go with (but it won't happen) :

              Moody
              Taylor
              Franks
              Franklin
              Whitelock
              Barrett
              Todd
              Whitelock
              Smith
              Mounga
              Naholo
              SBW
              Ioane
              Smith
              Barrett

              Coltman
              Tu'inukuafe
              Tuungafasi
              Frizell
              Cane
              TJP
              DMac
              ALB

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              Bones
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              #207

              @cgrant nice to see a couple of token North islanders.

              I'm still perplexed as to why people think a world beating winger who's been nothing but ordinary at centre (at best) want to see him at centre. In test rugby.

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              • BonesB Online
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                Bones
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                #208

                Bloody good on Hemopo if so. Seemed like NPC might be his limit, came out and bruised up the lions and hasn't looked back. I like his style, really plays above his weight and gets busy.

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                  Bovidae
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                  #209

                  And Hemopo has leapfrogged Franklin unless they also like him as a 6?

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                  • BonesB Bones

                    @cgrant nice to see a couple of token North islanders.

                    I'm still perplexed as to why people think a world beating winger who's been nothing but ordinary at centre (at best) want to see him at centre. In test rugby.

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                    @bones said in All Blacks v France Test 3:

                    @cgrant nice to see a couple of token North islanders.

                    I'm still perplexed as to why people think a world beating winger who's been nothing but ordinary at centre (at best) want to see him at centre. In test rugby.

                    Ioane was mostly used as 2nd five eight by Umaga, in a shit team. He has all the attributes to become a world class centre.

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                    • C cgrant

                      @bones said in All Blacks v France Test 3:

                      @cgrant nice to see a couple of token North islanders.

                      I'm still perplexed as to why people think a world beating winger who's been nothing but ordinary at centre (at best) want to see him at centre. In test rugby.

                      Ioane was mostly used as 2nd five eight by Umaga, in a shit team. He has all the attributes to become a world class centre.

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                      Bones
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                      @cgrant said in All Blacks v France Test 3:

                      @bones said in All Blacks v France Test 3:

                      @cgrant nice to see a couple of token North islanders.

                      I'm still perplexed as to why people think a world beating winger who's been nothing but ordinary at centre (at best) want to see him at centre. In test rugby.

                      Ioane was mostly used as 2nd five eight by Umaga, in a shit team. He has all the attributes to become a world class centre.

                      Just like Ardie Savea then.

                      Hayman really should've played 8 huh?

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                      • BonesB Bones

                        @cgrant said in All Blacks v France Test 3:

                        @bones said in All Blacks v France Test 3:

                        @cgrant nice to see a couple of token North islanders.

                        I'm still perplexed as to why people think a world beating winger who's been nothing but ordinary at centre (at best) want to see him at centre. In test rugby.

                        Ioane was mostly used as 2nd five eight by Umaga, in a shit team. He has all the attributes to become a world class centre.

                        Just like Ardie Savea then.

                        Hayman really should've played 8 huh?

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                        Tim
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                        #212

                        @bones Yeah, there's the same difference between flanker and centre as there is between wing and centre, and it's also super rare to go from the wing to the midfield.

                        Great post all around.

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                          mariner4life
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                          I am many disappoint that most, including it appears the selectors, want to drop who i thought was best on ground last week. And for a rookie and a has-been who has barely played in 12 months

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                          • TimT Tim

                            @bones Yeah, there's the same difference between flanker and centre as there is between wing and centre, and it's also super rare to go from the wing to the midfield.

                            Great post all around.

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                            Bones
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                            #214

                            @tim said in All Blacks v France Test 3:

                            @bones Yeah, there's the same difference between flanker and centre as there is between wing and centre, and it's also super rare to go from the wing to the midfield.

                            Great post all around.

                            But but Ardie played in the midfield at schoolboy level, he has all the attributes to play there now.

                            We have:
                            Goodhue
                            Laumape
                            Crotty
                            SBW
                            ALB

                            With other proven, very good midfielders hanging around like:
                            Buckman
                            Thomson
                            Proctor

                            Why the fuck should we bother throwing Ioane there? Oh he played there in schoolboy rugby. Plus he's shown amazing form in the midfield. If he's good enough, why doesn't that show out a level down? Oh, crap team, of course. But wait, he still looks great on the wing in said crap team! How puzzling.

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                            • BonesB Bones

                              @tim said in All Blacks v France Test 3:

                              @bones Yeah, there's the same difference between flanker and centre as there is between wing and centre, and it's also super rare to go from the wing to the midfield.

                              Great post all around.

                              But but Ardie played in the midfield at schoolboy level, he has all the attributes to play there now.

                              We have:
                              Goodhue
                              Laumape
                              Crotty
                              SBW
                              ALB

                              With other proven, very good midfielders hanging around like:
                              Buckman
                              Thomson
                              Proctor

                              Why the fuck should we bother throwing Ioane there? Oh he played there in schoolboy rugby. Plus he's shown amazing form in the midfield. If he's good enough, why doesn't that show out a level down? Oh, crap team, of course. But wait, he still looks great on the wing in said crap team! How puzzling.

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                              Tim
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                              #215

                              @bones I'm not advocating him for the AB's this season, but I wouldn't be surprised if he makes a very good centre. He's played their for the ABs, had a couple of decent games there for the Blues last year, and was generally pretty good at 13 (not at 12) for the Blues this year - tidy defence and good go-forward. Not as good as on the wing though.

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                              • TimT Tim

                                @bones I'm not advocating him for the AB's this season, but I wouldn't be surprised if he makes a very good centre. He's played their for the ABs, had a couple of decent games there for the Blues last year, and was generally pretty good at 13 (not at 12) for the Blues this year - tidy defence and good go-forward. Not as good as on the wing though.

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                                Bones
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                                #216

                                @tim I'd gamble him making a very good centre, especially at international level, is a looooong way off. We have a lot of young guys already showing they are very good centres and a winger is going to throw his hat in the ring and usurp them?

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                                • BonesB Bones

                                  @tim I'd gamble him making a very good centre, especially at international level, is a looooong way off. We have a lot of young guys already showing they are very good centres and a winger is going to throw his hat in the ring and usurp them?

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                                  Tim
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                                  #217

                                  @bones I think we only have one top-notch 13 candidate at the moment - Goodhue, and he is untested at that level. ALB is tidy and skilful, but nothing special at the moment.

                                  There's a lot of good 13s in NZ, but no excellent ones.

                                  I don't think Ioane will be a fulltime centre for at least another two seasons.

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                                  • BonesB Bones

                                    @tim said in All Blacks v France Test 3:

                                    @bones Yeah, there's the same difference between flanker and centre as there is between wing and centre, and it's also super rare to go from the wing to the midfield.

                                    Great post all around.

                                    But but Ardie played in the midfield at schoolboy level, he has all the attributes to play there now.

                                    We have:
                                    Goodhue
                                    Laumape
                                    Crotty
                                    SBW
                                    ALB

                                    With other proven, very good midfielders hanging around like:
                                    Buckman
                                    Thomson
                                    Proctor

                                    Why the fuck should we bother throwing Ioane there? Oh he played there in schoolboy rugby. Plus he's shown amazing form in the midfield. If he's good enough, why doesn't that show out a level down? Oh, crap team, of course. But wait, he still looks great on the wing in said crap team! How puzzling.

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                                    #218

                                    @bones said in All Blacks v France Test 3:

                                    @tim said in All Blacks v France Test 3:

                                    @bones Yeah, there's the same difference between flanker and centre as there is between wing and centre, and it's also super rare to go from the wing to the midfield.

                                    Great post all around.

                                    But but Ardie played in the midfield at schoolboy level, he has all the attributes to play there now.

                                    We have:
                                    Goodhue
                                    Laumape
                                    Crotty
                                    SBW
                                    ALB

                                    With other proven, very good midfielders hanging around like:
                                    Buckman
                                    Thomson
                                    Proctor

                                    Why the fuck should we bother throwing Ioane there? Oh he played there in schoolboy rugby. Plus he's shown amazing form in the midfield. If he's good enough, why doesn't that show out a level down? Oh, crap team, of course. But wait, he still looks great on the wing in said crap team! How puzzling.

                                    You forgot to mention Ngatai. The fern is disappointed.

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                                    • MN5M MN5

                                      @bones said in All Blacks v France Test 3:

                                      @tim said in All Blacks v France Test 3:

                                      @bones Yeah, there's the same difference between flanker and centre as there is between wing and centre, and it's also super rare to go from the wing to the midfield.

                                      Great post all around.

                                      But but Ardie played in the midfield at schoolboy level, he has all the attributes to play there now.

                                      We have:
                                      Goodhue
                                      Laumape
                                      Crotty
                                      SBW
                                      ALB

                                      With other proven, very good midfielders hanging around like:
                                      Buckman
                                      Thomson
                                      Proctor

                                      Why the fuck should we bother throwing Ioane there? Oh he played there in schoolboy rugby. Plus he's shown amazing form in the midfield. If he's good enough, why doesn't that show out a level down? Oh, crap team, of course. But wait, he still looks great on the wing in said crap team! How puzzling.

                                      You forgot to mention Ngatai. The fern is disappointed.

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                                      Bones
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                                      #219

                                      @mn5 and here I thought you were making an effort to attempt to keep up to date...

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                                        Gunner
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                                        #220

                                        Goodhue will be the long term centre, Ioane can therefore keep being the worlds best winger for a few more years.

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                                        • MN5M MN5

                                          @bones said in All Blacks v France Test 3:

                                          @tim said in All Blacks v France Test 3:

                                          @bones Yeah, there's the same difference between flanker and centre as there is between wing and centre, and it's also super rare to go from the wing to the midfield.

                                          Great post all around.

                                          But but Ardie played in the midfield at schoolboy level, he has all the attributes to play there now.

                                          We have:
                                          Goodhue
                                          Laumape
                                          Crotty
                                          SBW
                                          ALB

                                          With other proven, very good midfielders hanging around like:
                                          Buckman
                                          Thomson
                                          Proctor

                                          Why the fuck should we bother throwing Ioane there? Oh he played there in schoolboy rugby. Plus he's shown amazing form in the midfield. If he's good enough, why doesn't that show out a level down? Oh, crap team, of course. But wait, he still looks great on the wing in said crap team! How puzzling.

                                          You forgot to mention Ngatai. The fern is disappointed.

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                                          taniwharugby
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                                          #221

                                          @mn5 said in All Blacks v France Test 3:

                                          @bones said in All Blacks v France Test 3:

                                          @tim said in All Blacks v France Test 3:

                                          @bones Yeah, there's the same difference between flanker and centre as there is between wing and centre, and it's also super rare to go from the wing to the midfield.

                                          Great post all around.

                                          But but Ardie played in the midfield at schoolboy level, he has all the attributes to play there now.

                                          We have:
                                          Goodhue
                                          Laumape
                                          Crotty
                                          SBW
                                          ALB

                                          With other proven, very good midfielders hanging around like:
                                          Buckman
                                          Thomson
                                          Proctor

                                          Why the fuck should we bother throwing Ioane there? Oh he played there in schoolboy rugby. Plus he's shown amazing form in the midfield. If he's good enough, why doesn't that show out a level down? Oh, crap team, of course. But wait, he still looks great on the wing in said crap team! How puzzling.

                                          You forgot to mention Ngatai. The fern is disappointed.

                                          how can you let anyone forget!

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