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All Blacks v France Test 3

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  • TimT Tim

    Some top level whining bullshit:

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/104875518/fifteen-against-16-for-every-test-against-all-blacks-claims-french-prop

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    @tim said in All Blacks v France Test 3:

    Some top level whining bullshit:

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/104875518/fifteen-against-16-for-every-test-against-all-blacks-claims-french-prop

    To make a more serious refute.

    "But he had his eyes on the ball the whole time, he never stopped looking at the ball and at worst it was a yellow card.

    "The week before Ofa Tu'ungafasi put a shoulder to a head and that should have been a red card.

    Wait. Why is the judicial officer decision correct when it exonerates the Frenchmen but he thinks the judicial officer decision was wrong when it exonerates Ofa T?

    Is it coz he's Tongan? Bloody Samoan .....

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    • RapidoR Rapido

      @tim said in All Blacks v France Test 3:

      Some top level whining bullshit:

      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/104875518/fifteen-against-16-for-every-test-against-all-blacks-claims-french-prop

      To make a more serious refute.

      "But he had his eyes on the ball the whole time, he never stopped looking at the ball and at worst it was a yellow card.

      "The week before Ofa Tu'ungafasi put a shoulder to a head and that should have been a red card.

      Wait. Why is the judicial officer decision correct when it exonerates the Frenchmen but he thinks the judicial officer decision was wrong when it exonerates Ofa T?

      Is it coz he's Tongan? Bloody Samoan .....

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      @rapido bro, they let it go, why do you keep bringing it up!

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        I would go with (but it won't happen) :

        Moody
        Taylor
        Franks
        Franklin
        Whitelock
        Barrett
        Todd
        Whitelock
        Smith
        Mounga
        Naholo
        SBW
        Ioane
        Smith
        Barrett

        Coltman
        Tu'inukuafe
        Tuungafasi
        Frizell
        Cane
        TJP
        DMac
        ALB

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        • C cgrant

          I would go with (but it won't happen) :

          Moody
          Taylor
          Franks
          Franklin
          Whitelock
          Barrett
          Todd
          Whitelock
          Smith
          Mounga
          Naholo
          SBW
          Ioane
          Smith
          Barrett

          Coltman
          Tu'inukuafe
          Tuungafasi
          Frizell
          Cane
          TJP
          DMac
          ALB

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          @cgrant nice to see a couple of token North islanders.

          I'm still perplexed as to why people think a world beating winger who's been nothing but ordinary at centre (at best) want to see him at centre. In test rugby.

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            Bloody good on Hemopo if so. Seemed like NPC might be his limit, came out and bruised up the lions and hasn't looked back. I like his style, really plays above his weight and gets busy.

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              And Hemopo has leapfrogged Franklin unless they also like him as a 6?

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              • BonesB Bones

                @cgrant nice to see a couple of token North islanders.

                I'm still perplexed as to why people think a world beating winger who's been nothing but ordinary at centre (at best) want to see him at centre. In test rugby.

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                @bones said in All Blacks v France Test 3:

                @cgrant nice to see a couple of token North islanders.

                I'm still perplexed as to why people think a world beating winger who's been nothing but ordinary at centre (at best) want to see him at centre. In test rugby.

                Ioane was mostly used as 2nd five eight by Umaga, in a shit team. He has all the attributes to become a world class centre.

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                • C cgrant

                  @bones said in All Blacks v France Test 3:

                  @cgrant nice to see a couple of token North islanders.

                  I'm still perplexed as to why people think a world beating winger who's been nothing but ordinary at centre (at best) want to see him at centre. In test rugby.

                  Ioane was mostly used as 2nd five eight by Umaga, in a shit team. He has all the attributes to become a world class centre.

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                  @cgrant said in All Blacks v France Test 3:

                  @bones said in All Blacks v France Test 3:

                  @cgrant nice to see a couple of token North islanders.

                  I'm still perplexed as to why people think a world beating winger who's been nothing but ordinary at centre (at best) want to see him at centre. In test rugby.

                  Ioane was mostly used as 2nd five eight by Umaga, in a shit team. He has all the attributes to become a world class centre.

                  Just like Ardie Savea then.

                  Hayman really should've played 8 huh?

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                  • BonesB Bones

                    @cgrant said in All Blacks v France Test 3:

                    @bones said in All Blacks v France Test 3:

                    @cgrant nice to see a couple of token North islanders.

                    I'm still perplexed as to why people think a world beating winger who's been nothing but ordinary at centre (at best) want to see him at centre. In test rugby.

                    Ioane was mostly used as 2nd five eight by Umaga, in a shit team. He has all the attributes to become a world class centre.

                    Just like Ardie Savea then.

                    Hayman really should've played 8 huh?

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                    Tim
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                    @bones Yeah, there's the same difference between flanker and centre as there is between wing and centre, and it's also super rare to go from the wing to the midfield.

                    Great post all around.

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                      I am many disappoint that most, including it appears the selectors, want to drop who i thought was best on ground last week. And for a rookie and a has-been who has barely played in 12 months

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                      • TimT Tim

                        @bones Yeah, there's the same difference between flanker and centre as there is between wing and centre, and it's also super rare to go from the wing to the midfield.

                        Great post all around.

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                        @tim said in All Blacks v France Test 3:

                        @bones Yeah, there's the same difference between flanker and centre as there is between wing and centre, and it's also super rare to go from the wing to the midfield.

                        Great post all around.

                        But but Ardie played in the midfield at schoolboy level, he has all the attributes to play there now.

                        We have:
                        Goodhue
                        Laumape
                        Crotty
                        SBW
                        ALB

                        With other proven, very good midfielders hanging around like:
                        Buckman
                        Thomson
                        Proctor

                        Why the fuck should we bother throwing Ioane there? Oh he played there in schoolboy rugby. Plus he's shown amazing form in the midfield. If he's good enough, why doesn't that show out a level down? Oh, crap team, of course. But wait, he still looks great on the wing in said crap team! How puzzling.

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                        • BonesB Bones

                          @tim said in All Blacks v France Test 3:

                          @bones Yeah, there's the same difference between flanker and centre as there is between wing and centre, and it's also super rare to go from the wing to the midfield.

                          Great post all around.

                          But but Ardie played in the midfield at schoolboy level, he has all the attributes to play there now.

                          We have:
                          Goodhue
                          Laumape
                          Crotty
                          SBW
                          ALB

                          With other proven, very good midfielders hanging around like:
                          Buckman
                          Thomson
                          Proctor

                          Why the fuck should we bother throwing Ioane there? Oh he played there in schoolboy rugby. Plus he's shown amazing form in the midfield. If he's good enough, why doesn't that show out a level down? Oh, crap team, of course. But wait, he still looks great on the wing in said crap team! How puzzling.

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                          Tim
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                          #215

                          @bones I'm not advocating him for the AB's this season, but I wouldn't be surprised if he makes a very good centre. He's played their for the ABs, had a couple of decent games there for the Blues last year, and was generally pretty good at 13 (not at 12) for the Blues this year - tidy defence and good go-forward. Not as good as on the wing though.

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                          • TimT Tim

                            @bones I'm not advocating him for the AB's this season, but I wouldn't be surprised if he makes a very good centre. He's played their for the ABs, had a couple of decent games there for the Blues last year, and was generally pretty good at 13 (not at 12) for the Blues this year - tidy defence and good go-forward. Not as good as on the wing though.

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                            @tim I'd gamble him making a very good centre, especially at international level, is a looooong way off. We have a lot of young guys already showing they are very good centres and a winger is going to throw his hat in the ring and usurp them?

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                            • BonesB Bones

                              @tim I'd gamble him making a very good centre, especially at international level, is a looooong way off. We have a lot of young guys already showing they are very good centres and a winger is going to throw his hat in the ring and usurp them?

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                              #217

                              @bones I think we only have one top-notch 13 candidate at the moment - Goodhue, and he is untested at that level. ALB is tidy and skilful, but nothing special at the moment.

                              There's a lot of good 13s in NZ, but no excellent ones.

                              I don't think Ioane will be a fulltime centre for at least another two seasons.

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                              • BonesB Bones

                                @tim said in All Blacks v France Test 3:

                                @bones Yeah, there's the same difference between flanker and centre as there is between wing and centre, and it's also super rare to go from the wing to the midfield.

                                Great post all around.

                                But but Ardie played in the midfield at schoolboy level, he has all the attributes to play there now.

                                We have:
                                Goodhue
                                Laumape
                                Crotty
                                SBW
                                ALB

                                With other proven, very good midfielders hanging around like:
                                Buckman
                                Thomson
                                Proctor

                                Why the fuck should we bother throwing Ioane there? Oh he played there in schoolboy rugby. Plus he's shown amazing form in the midfield. If he's good enough, why doesn't that show out a level down? Oh, crap team, of course. But wait, he still looks great on the wing in said crap team! How puzzling.

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                                @bones said in All Blacks v France Test 3:

                                @tim said in All Blacks v France Test 3:

                                @bones Yeah, there's the same difference between flanker and centre as there is between wing and centre, and it's also super rare to go from the wing to the midfield.

                                Great post all around.

                                But but Ardie played in the midfield at schoolboy level, he has all the attributes to play there now.

                                We have:
                                Goodhue
                                Laumape
                                Crotty
                                SBW
                                ALB

                                With other proven, very good midfielders hanging around like:
                                Buckman
                                Thomson
                                Proctor

                                Why the fuck should we bother throwing Ioane there? Oh he played there in schoolboy rugby. Plus he's shown amazing form in the midfield. If he's good enough, why doesn't that show out a level down? Oh, crap team, of course. But wait, he still looks great on the wing in said crap team! How puzzling.

                                You forgot to mention Ngatai. The fern is disappointed.

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                                • MN5M MN5

                                  @bones said in All Blacks v France Test 3:

                                  @tim said in All Blacks v France Test 3:

                                  @bones Yeah, there's the same difference between flanker and centre as there is between wing and centre, and it's also super rare to go from the wing to the midfield.

                                  Great post all around.

                                  But but Ardie played in the midfield at schoolboy level, he has all the attributes to play there now.

                                  We have:
                                  Goodhue
                                  Laumape
                                  Crotty
                                  SBW
                                  ALB

                                  With other proven, very good midfielders hanging around like:
                                  Buckman
                                  Thomson
                                  Proctor

                                  Why the fuck should we bother throwing Ioane there? Oh he played there in schoolboy rugby. Plus he's shown amazing form in the midfield. If he's good enough, why doesn't that show out a level down? Oh, crap team, of course. But wait, he still looks great on the wing in said crap team! How puzzling.

                                  You forgot to mention Ngatai. The fern is disappointed.

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                                  Bones
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                                  @mn5 and here I thought you were making an effort to attempt to keep up to date...

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                                    Goodhue will be the long term centre, Ioane can therefore keep being the worlds best winger for a few more years.

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                                    • MN5M MN5

                                      @bones said in All Blacks v France Test 3:

                                      @tim said in All Blacks v France Test 3:

                                      @bones Yeah, there's the same difference between flanker and centre as there is between wing and centre, and it's also super rare to go from the wing to the midfield.

                                      Great post all around.

                                      But but Ardie played in the midfield at schoolboy level, he has all the attributes to play there now.

                                      We have:
                                      Goodhue
                                      Laumape
                                      Crotty
                                      SBW
                                      ALB

                                      With other proven, very good midfielders hanging around like:
                                      Buckman
                                      Thomson
                                      Proctor

                                      Why the fuck should we bother throwing Ioane there? Oh he played there in schoolboy rugby. Plus he's shown amazing form in the midfield. If he's good enough, why doesn't that show out a level down? Oh, crap team, of course. But wait, he still looks great on the wing in said crap team! How puzzling.

                                      You forgot to mention Ngatai. The fern is disappointed.

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                                      @mn5 said in All Blacks v France Test 3:

                                      @bones said in All Blacks v France Test 3:

                                      @tim said in All Blacks v France Test 3:

                                      @bones Yeah, there's the same difference between flanker and centre as there is between wing and centre, and it's also super rare to go from the wing to the midfield.

                                      Great post all around.

                                      But but Ardie played in the midfield at schoolboy level, he has all the attributes to play there now.

                                      We have:
                                      Goodhue
                                      Laumape
                                      Crotty
                                      SBW
                                      ALB

                                      With other proven, very good midfielders hanging around like:
                                      Buckman
                                      Thomson
                                      Proctor

                                      Why the fuck should we bother throwing Ioane there? Oh he played there in schoolboy rugby. Plus he's shown amazing form in the midfield. If he's good enough, why doesn't that show out a level down? Oh, crap team, of course. But wait, he still looks great on the wing in said crap team! How puzzling.

                                      You forgot to mention Ngatai. The fern is disappointed.

                                      how can you let anyone forget!

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                                      • TimT Tim

                                        Some top level whining bullshit:

                                        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/104875518/fifteen-against-16-for-every-test-against-all-blacks-claims-french-prop

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                                        #222

                                        @tim said in All Blacks v France Test 3:

                                        Some top level whining bullshit:

                                        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/104875518/fifteen-against-16-for-every-test-against-all-blacks-claims-french-prop

                                        "We've got nothing to lose, we've got 80 minutes to play and we'll see what happens."

                                        Including your self respect after that whinge.

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                                          Anyone else think he's a candidate for WR to charge him with bringing the game into disrepute?

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