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Wallabies v Springboks

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    Will Beale be better though? They finally have Beale looking comfortable in a position, dangerous at times, now they move him?

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    • KirwanK Kirwan

      Will Beale be better though? They finally have Beale looking comfortable in a position, dangerous at times, now they move him?

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      @kirwan said in Wallabies v Springboks:

      Will Beale be better though? They finally have Beale looking comfortable in a position, dangerous at times, now they move him?

      Cheika desperately rolling the dice in hope rather than expectation?

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        Foley needs to get a rest at some point and not much options available at the moment. Toomua will probably slot a lot at first five to give Beale some freedom tho.

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          Beale at 10, boom or bust....he could cause havoc and set the backline alight, or he could just as easily self implode ala Kwade.

          Might be worth watching.

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          • KirwanK Kirwan

            Will Beale be better though? They finally have Beale looking comfortable in a position, dangerous at times, now they move him?

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            @kirwan said in Wallabies v Springboks:

            Will Beale be better though? They finally have Beale looking comfortable in a position, dangerous at times, now they move him?

            On the plus side at least the loose forwards will be closer when Beale inevitably misses tackles down his channel.

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            • KirwanK Kirwan

              Will Beale be better though? They finally have Beale looking comfortable in a position, dangerous at times, now they move him?

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              @kirwan said in Wallabies v Springboks:

              Will Beale be better though? They finally have Beale looking comfortable in a position, dangerous at times, now they move him?

              I think he wants Beale to have more ball. Which I whole heartedly agree with from his point of view. He's the best chance Australia have of creating something out of nothing.

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                @kirwan said in Wallabies v Springboks:

                Will Beale be better though? They finally have Beale looking comfortable in a position, dangerous at times, now they move him?

                I think he wants Beale to have more ball. Which I whole heartedly agree with from his point of view. He's the best chance Australia have of creating something out of nothing.

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                @majorrage said in Wallabies v Springboks:

                @kirwan said in Wallabies v Springboks:

                Will Beale be better though? They finally have Beale looking comfortable in a position, dangerous at times, now they move him?

                I think he wants Beale to have more ball. Which I whole heartedly agree with from his point of view. He's the best chance Australia have of creating something out of nothing.

                I agree he needs more ball, but as we know at 10 you want more steady and directing play rather than off the cuff.

                I’d be concerned about him crabbing across field which he has a tendency to do sometimes. Giteau did it as well when he shifted to 10.

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                  I found it interesting in the media they are talking about Foley being demoted and Cheika saying he took the demotion well. Maybe semantics but wouldn't it be better to come out and say we are going for a different attacking style and Beale is better suited. Or we need to give other players a chance in crucial positions to improve our depth. Shag Is the master in this tactic.

                  Seems a bit of a public shaming to say, yeah Foleys been a bit shit and hes been dropped as a result. Would do wonders for the players confidence.

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                  • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                    @majorrage said in Wallabies v Springboks:

                    @kirwan said in Wallabies v Springboks:

                    Will Beale be better though? They finally have Beale looking comfortable in a position, dangerous at times, now they move him?

                    I think he wants Beale to have more ball. Which I whole heartedly agree with from his point of view. He's the best chance Australia have of creating something out of nothing.

                    I agree he needs more ball, but as we know at 10 you want more steady and directing play rather than off the cuff.

                    I’d be concerned about him crabbing across field which he has a tendency to do sometimes. Giteau did it as well when he shifted to 10.

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                    @act-crusader said in Wallabies v Springboks:

                    @majorrage said in Wallabies v Springboks:

                    @kirwan said in Wallabies v Springboks:

                    Will Beale be better though? They finally have Beale looking comfortable in a position, dangerous at times, now they move him?

                    I think he wants Beale to have more ball. Which I whole heartedly agree with from his point of view. He's the best chance Australia have of creating something out of nothing.

                    I agree he needs more ball, but as we know at 10 you want more steady and directing play rather than off the cuff.

                    I’d be concerned about him crabbing across field which he has a tendency to do sometimes. Giteau did it as well when he shifted to 10.

                    Agreed. Get him more involved where he's dangerous, at 12 / 15.

                    It's a bit rich to blame Foley when other players are pushing passes, giving away penalties, falling off tackles etc.

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                      Pocock ruled out with a neck injury. Pete Samu replaces him in the starting side.

                      Looks like the ABs are blamed for the injury 🙄

                      David Pocock has been ruled out of Saturday’s Brisbane Test with a neck injury.
                      
                      New Zealand targeted Pocock heavily in the breakdown in their two Bledisloe Tests and the Kiwis’ treatment left the flanker with neck soreness that he is yet to fully shake off. 
                      
                      After the Auckland Bledisloe Test, Pocock could barely move his neck and nearly a fortnight later he is still suffering stiffness amid concerns for his long-term health. 
                      
                      The flanker will be replaced in the starting side by Pete Samu.
                      

                      http://www.rugby.com.au/news/2018/09/07/pocock-out-springboks

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                        Pocock ruled out with a neck injury. Pete Samu replaces him in the starting side.

                        Looks like the ABs are blamed for the injury 🙄

                        David Pocock has been ruled out of Saturday’s Brisbane Test with a neck injury.
                        
                        New Zealand targeted Pocock heavily in the breakdown in their two Bledisloe Tests and the Kiwis’ treatment left the flanker with neck soreness that he is yet to fully shake off. 
                        
                        After the Auckland Bledisloe Test, Pocock could barely move his neck and nearly a fortnight later he is still suffering stiffness amid concerns for his long-term health. 
                        
                        The flanker will be replaced in the starting side by Pete Samu.
                        

                        http://www.rugby.com.au/news/2018/09/07/pocock-out-springboks

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                        @stargazer said in Wallabies v Springboks:

                        Pocock ruled out with a neck injury. Pete Samu replaces him in the starting side.

                        Looks like the ABs are blamed for the injury 🙄

                        David Pocock has been ruled out of Saturday’s Brisbane Test with a neck injury.
                        
                        New Zealand targeted Pocock heavily in the breakdown in their two Bledisloe Tests and the Kiwis’ treatment left the flanker with neck soreness that he is yet to fully shake off. 
                        
                        After the Auckland Bledisloe Test, Pocock could barely move his neck and nearly a fortnight later he is still suffering stiffness amid concerns for his long-term health. 
                        
                        The flanker will be replaced in the starting side by Pete Samu.
                        

                        http://www.rugby.com.au/news/2018/09/07/pocock-out-springboks

                        Carrying the weight of the world on your shoulders will do that to your neck.

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                          Lucky they have the 6 million dollar man in their side, I'm sure he will easily cover the work of Pocock.

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                            There is more balance in that loose forward trio but Hooper will need to play a little tighter.

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                            • StargazerS Stargazer

                              Pocock ruled out with a neck injury. Pete Samu replaces him in the starting side.

                              Looks like the ABs are blamed for the injury 🙄

                              David Pocock has been ruled out of Saturday’s Brisbane Test with a neck injury.
                              
                              New Zealand targeted Pocock heavily in the breakdown in their two Bledisloe Tests and the Kiwis’ treatment left the flanker with neck soreness that he is yet to fully shake off. 
                              
                              After the Auckland Bledisloe Test, Pocock could barely move his neck and nearly a fortnight later he is still suffering stiffness amid concerns for his long-term health. 
                              
                              The flanker will be replaced in the starting side by Pete Samu.
                              

                              http://www.rugby.com.au/news/2018/09/07/pocock-out-springboks

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                              @stargazer said in Wallabies v Springboks:

                              Pocock ruled out with a neck injury. Pete Samu replaces him in the starting side.

                              Looks like the ABs are blamed for the injury 🙄

                              David Pocock has been ruled out of Saturday’s Brisbane Test with a neck injury.
                              
                              New Zealand targeted Pocock heavily in the breakdown in their two Bledisloe Tests and the Kiwis’ treatment left the flanker with neck soreness that he is yet to fully shake off. 
                              
                              After the Auckland Bledisloe Test, Pocock could barely move his neck and nearly a fortnight later he is still suffering stiffness amid concerns for his long-term health. 
                              
                              The flanker will be replaced in the starting side by Pete Samu.
                              

                              http://www.rugby.com.au/news/2018/09/07/pocock-out-springboks

                              It's a fair point, there would ahve been 2 or 3 yellow cards vs ABs if those neck rolls had been done a couple of years ago, when they were the current hobby-horse of the IRB. It seems refs can only have one area to target for cards at a time, high shots as it stands now.

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                                @stargazer said in Wallabies v Springboks:

                                Pocock ruled out with a neck injury. Pete Samu replaces him in the starting side.

                                Looks like the ABs are blamed for the injury 🙄

                                David Pocock has been ruled out of Saturday’s Brisbane Test with a neck injury.
                                
                                New Zealand targeted Pocock heavily in the breakdown in their two Bledisloe Tests and the Kiwis’ treatment left the flanker with neck soreness that he is yet to fully shake off. 
                                
                                After the Auckland Bledisloe Test, Pocock could barely move his neck and nearly a fortnight later he is still suffering stiffness amid concerns for his long-term health. 
                                
                                The flanker will be replaced in the starting side by Pete Samu.
                                

                                http://www.rugby.com.au/news/2018/09/07/pocock-out-springboks

                                It's a fair point, there would ahve been 2 or 3 yellow cards vs ABs if those neck rolls had been done a couple of years ago, when they were the current hobby-horse of the IRB. It seems refs can only have one area to target for cards at a time, high shots as it stands now.

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                                @machpants his neck woulda still hurt though.... 😉

                                Thing is, when you are at the breakdown the way he is, you are gonna take plenty of legit hits while trying to pilfer the ball.

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                                  Not one Aussie journo has commented on Hoopah's neck roll on Ardie or Bonocock's head high on Beauden.

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                                    Not one Aussie journo has commented on Hoopah's neck roll on Ardie or Bonocock's head high on Beauden.

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                                    @akan004 said in Wallabies v Springboks:

                                    Not one Aussie journo has commented on Hoopah's neck roll on Ardie or Bonocock's head high on Beauden.

                                    That is strange when they were vociferous in their condemnation about the questionable tactics utilised to unseat McCaw...

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                                      having a big cry now.

                                      Reap what you sow fellas, granted Franks probably should have had a YC, but that wouldnt have stopped the aftermath as it is now.

                                      https://www.foxsports.com.au/rugby/wallabies/david-pocock-neck-injury-david-campese-slams-world-rugby-michael-hooper-weighs-in/news-story/886467dd23b4949d15ce2e91ae253380

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                                        having a big cry now.

                                        Reap what you sow fellas, granted Franks probably should have had a YC, but that wouldnt have stopped the aftermath as it is now.

                                        https://www.foxsports.com.au/rugby/wallabies/david-pocock-neck-injury-david-campese-slams-world-rugby-michael-hooper-weighs-in/news-story/886467dd23b4949d15ce2e91ae253380

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                                        @taniwharugby I don't have a problem here with either Campo or Hooper comments.

                                        They've lost a player to an injury which wasn't punished, when all World Rugby guidelines suggest it should have been. They have a right to be pissed off.

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                                        • MajorPomM MajorPom

                                          @taniwharugby I don't have a problem here with either Campo or Hooper comments.

                                          They've lost a player to an injury which wasn't punished, when all World Rugby guidelines suggest it should have been. They have a right to be pissed off.

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                                          @majorrage I have a problem with Hooper's comments since he did the same thing to Ardie.

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