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  • NepiaN Offline
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    @chris-b said in Super Rugby News:

    Read, Cane, Squire, Savea, Todd, Frizell, Whitelock, SBarrett, Hemopo, Taufua, Fifita, Ioane.

    Damn, is that Hansen's rating you've put them in? Isn't there another couple of Highlanders loosies you can put above Akira?

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    @akan004 said in Super Rugby News:

    @bones Luke Whitelock and Frizell both have been part of an incredibly successful AB team. Does this mean they are playing at a level that is required to make the ABs successful? I doubt it. Some would make that argument for Squire as well. Faf and Le Roux play for a lesser team but their individual levels of play are of a very high standard.

    Yes, Louw outplayed Read. Granted Read is a far superior player but he was outplayed on the weekend.

    Ok now I know you're not being serious. Louw and Le Roux didn't outplay their opposites - and even if some consider they did, I'd like to know how it reached comprehensive levels.

    Whitelock and Frizzel are certainly playing at a level to help make the ABs successful. What's Luatua doing?

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    @bones You must have low standards if you think Whitelock and Frizell are playing at an AB required level.

    Comprehensive to describe Louw's performance against Read was incorrect, I will give you that.

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    @chris-b said in Super Rugby News:

    How is he going in the NH?

    I've watched a couple of Bristol games this season. He was very good in both of those. Kaino-esque on defence and his running game was still strong

    Maybe Hansen has been underwhelmed by the people he's given chances to and got on the phone to Luatua?
    Which would be funny considering how poor the communication between them was

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    replied to Nepia on last edited by Chris B.
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    @nepia said in Super Rugby News:

    @chris-b said in Super Rugby News:

    Read, Cane, Squire, Savea, Todd, Frizell, Whitelock, SBarrett, Hemopo, Taufua, Fifita, Ioane.

    Damn, is that Hansen's rating you've put them in? Isn't there another couple of Highlanders loosies you can put above Akira?

    Not Hansen's ratings - but, based on past patterns of selection the only things we can be sure of are that Read is first on the list and Akira is last. πŸ™‚

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    @chris-b said in Super Rugby News:

    @nepia said in Super Rugby News:

    @chris-b said in Super Rugby News:

    Read, Cane, Squire, Savea, Todd, Frizell, Whitelock, SBarrett, Hemopo, Taufua, Fifita, Ioane.

    Damn, is that Hansen's rating you've put them in? Isn't there another couple of Highlanders loosies you can put above Akira?

    Not Hansen's ratings - but, based on past patterns of selection the only things we can be sure of is that Read is first on the list and Akira is last. πŸ™‚

    I'm actually not 100% certain you didn't mean Reiko in case he looses all his speed between now and the RWC.

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    @akan004 said in Super Rugby News:

    @bones You must have low standards if you think Whitelock and Frizell are playing at an AB required level.

    Comprehensive to describe Louw's performance against Read was incorrect, I will give you that.

    Haha, my standards are high enough to not have to scour the EP for players!

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    I thought Frizzel was outstanding on his first start and was on par with rest of forwards for second start

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  • Chris B.C Offline
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    @nepia said in Super Rugby News:

    @chris-b said in Super Rugby News:

    @nepia said in Super Rugby News:

    @chris-b said in Super Rugby News:

    Read, Cane, Squire, Savea, Todd, Frizell, Whitelock, SBarrett, Hemopo, Taufua, Fifita, Ioane.

    Damn, is that Hansen's rating you've put them in? Isn't there another couple of Highlanders loosies you can put above Akira?

    Not Hansen's ratings - but, based on past patterns of selection the only things we can be sure of is that Read is first on the list and Akira is last. πŸ™‚

    I'm actually not 100% certain you didn't mean Reiko in case he looses all his speed between now and the RWC.

    I've got nothing against those Ioane boys. In fact, I wouldn't be unhappy to see Akira in the ABs, because it would probably mean Ta$man would have Frizell and that would be a substantial swing in the balance of power! πŸ™‚

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    @hooroo said in Super Rugby News:

    I thought Frizzel was outstanding on his first start and was on par with rest of forwards for second start

    You mean when the game when he ran off rucks like Fifita? πŸ˜‰ He did put in a good defensive shift against the Argentinians over there - although it's interesting what style of game he would have played if Whitelock was available.

    @Chris-B Would he make your starting lineup?

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    @nepia said in Super Rugby News:

    @hooroo said in Super Rugby News:

    I thought Frizzel was outstanding on his first start and was on par with rest of forwards for second start

    You mean when the game when he ran off rucks like Fifita? πŸ˜‰ He did put in a good defensive shift against the Argentinians over there - although it's interesting what style of game he would have played if Whitelock was available.

    @Chris-B Would he make your starting lineup?

    I'm talking about the game when his defence was Kaino-esque. Just standing them up dead in their tracks.

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    @hooroo said in Super Rugby News:

    @nepia said in Super Rugby News:

    @hooroo said in Super Rugby News:

    I thought Frizzel was outstanding on his first start and was on par with rest of forwards for second start

    You mean when the game when he ran off rucks like Fifita? πŸ˜‰ He did put in a good defensive shift against the Argentinians over there - although it's interesting what style of game he would have played if Whitelock was available.

    @Chris-B Would he make your starting lineup?

    I'm talking about the game when his defence was Kaino-esque. Just standing them up dead in their tracks.

    I guess I didn't see that one. But his first start was the running one, so I expect you mean the second Argentina one.

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    Kaino-esque is certainly not a term that should be used to describe Frizell's defence. Luatua wasn't exactly a big hitter before he left NZ either, but based on the games he has played for Bristol this year, it looks like he has upped his defensive game a fair bit.

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    @akan004 said in Super Rugby News:

    Kaino-esque is certainly not a term that should be used to describe Frizell's defence. Luatua wasn't exactly a big hitter before he left NZ either, but based on the games he has played for Bristol this year, it looks like he has upped his defensive game a fair bit.

    I think you mean comprehensively πŸ™‚

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  • Chris B.C Offline
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    @nepia said in Super Rugby News:

    @Chris-B Would he make your starting lineup?

    Frizell?

    Yeah - we've got about half a dozen 6/8s out, so he'd bolt in at present.

    If everyone was available? We can field Squire and Taufua so in all seriousness, he'd probably be on the bench! πŸ™‚

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  • NepiaN Offline
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    @chris-b said in Super Rugby News:

    @nepia said in Super Rugby News:

    @Chris-B Would he make your starting lineup?

    Frizell?

    Yeah - we've got about half a dozen 6/8s out, so he'd bolt in at present.

    If everyone was available? We can field Squire and Taufua so in all seriousness, he'd probably be on the bench! πŸ™‚

    Skite.

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    wrote on last edited by
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    Luatua can play at Nr.8 so he might fit as Read's cover, the other options being not too flashy.

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    @cgrant Going by the article that was posted in the 2019 Blues thread, Luatua isn't likely to come back any time soon. He's happy to stay at Bristol if they want him.

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    @kiwimurph said in Super Rugby News:

    Bristol eyeing ex-All Black flanker as replacement for Luatua - reports

    Bristol eyeing ex-All Black flanker as replacement for Luatua - reports

    Ex-All Black loose forward Victor Vito is a target for Premiership club Bristol Bears, who is coming off contract with La Rochelle at the end of the season.

    One of Bristol’s top recruitment priorities for next season, who are preparing to loose another All Black loose forward, Steven Luatua.
    
    Luatua is believed to be contemplating a return to New Zealand in order to reignite his international career ahead of next year’s World Cup
    

    lose! Fucking lose! not fucking loose!!!

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  • CrucialC Offline
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    Fake news. No way can he even think that returning in June will give him a realistic chance of an AB place.

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