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AB EOYT 2018

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  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

    @stockcar86 surely Akira can cover 6/8, which is multiple isnt it?

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    @taniwharugby He'll just have to wait I guess. Most know that he deserves a run but who knows, maybe Shag is hiding him for next year's world cup? I certainly have no idea what the situation is with him. Does anyone lol?

    @SammyC The Crusaders make it easy for him where he can do what he likes where he's always playing with front foot ball. For other teams (North Harbour/Blues) he has to get in, create more from the base and play more physically which he doesn't like. In cricketing terms he's nothing more than a flat track bully.

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      I'm happy with the main squad, especially because Matt Todd is in it. IMO he's the best back-up for Cane, despite Ardie's good performance against SA.

      Out of the main squad are:

      Not picked:
      Tim Perry, Laumape, Coltman, NMS, who are all in the wider squad

      Unavailable:
      Cane, Frizell, Taufua

      Of the newbies in the wider squad, I agree with all except O’Neill and Cameron, although I'm disappointed for Weber, who has been in good form for Hawke's Bay. Agree that Hunt is much better than Cameron. I don't understand these selections at all.

      About Akira, I can only guess, but there just must be something we don't know of why he isn't picked. Maybe they have given him a list of work-ons, and he hasn't delivered on those points. Or there's a character issue we don't know of.

      IMO, Papali'i is taking the spot that would otherwise have gone to Akira; not Evans. Evans is a completely different player and much more versatile than Akira, which makes him an excellent bench player. Evans absolutely deserves his call-up.

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      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

        I have no idea what is happening, are they naming the giant squad? It's so exciting to hear names being selected who i genuinely have no idea who they are.

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        @mariner4life said in AB EOYT 2018:

        I have no idea what is happening, are they naming the giant squad? It's so exciting to hear names being selected who i genuinely have no idea who they are.

        Welcome to my last 10 years of All Black support.

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        • StargazerS Stargazer

          I'm happy with the main squad, especially because Matt Todd is in it. IMO he's the best back-up for Cane, despite Ardie's good performance against SA.

          Out of the main squad are:

          Not picked:
          Tim Perry, Laumape, Coltman, NMS, who are all in the wider squad

          Unavailable:
          Cane, Frizell, Taufua

          Of the newbies in the wider squad, I agree with all except O’Neill and Cameron, although I'm disappointed for Weber, who has been in good form for Hawke's Bay. Agree that Hunt is much better than Cameron. I don't understand these selections at all.

          About Akira, I can only guess, but there just must be something we don't know of why he isn't picked. Maybe they have given him a list of work-ons, and he hasn't delivered on those points. Or there's a character issue we don't know of.

          IMO, Papali'i is taking the spot that would otherwise have gone to Akira; not Evans. Evans is a completely different player and much more versatile than Akira, which makes him an excellent bench player. Evans absolutely deserves his call-up.

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          @stargazer

          Personally, I think they should have taken Dalton and Evans in the main squad, with Todd not selected. I agree about Evans’ versatility.

          I’m so surprised to see Fifita back - how does he fit in to a squad with four locks, one of who can cover 6 from the bench? I don’t get it. Having Akira there in his place looks the ticket to me.

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          • gt12G gt12

            @stargazer

            Personally, I think they should have taken Dalton and Evans in the main squad, with Todd not selected. I agree about Evans’ versatility.

            I’m so surprised to see Fifita back - how does he fit in to a squad with four locks, one of who can cover 6 from the bench? I don’t get it. Having Akira there in his place looks the ticket to me.

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            @gt12 Todd's selection says something about how high they rate Todd compared to the other options and how much importance they attach to having a specialist openside in the squad to replace Cane; Papali'i is more a 6 and Evans is more an 8 and utitlity loosie.

            Maybe they consider Fifita as a direct swap for Frizell?

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            • StargazerS Stargazer

              I'm happy with the main squad, especially because Matt Todd is in it. IMO he's the best back-up for Cane, despite Ardie's good performance against SA.

              Out of the main squad are:

              Not picked:
              Tim Perry, Laumape, Coltman, NMS, who are all in the wider squad

              Unavailable:
              Cane, Frizell, Taufua

              Of the newbies in the wider squad, I agree with all except O’Neill and Cameron, although I'm disappointed for Weber, who has been in good form for Hawke's Bay. Agree that Hunt is much better than Cameron. I don't understand these selections at all.

              About Akira, I can only guess, but there just must be something we don't know of why he isn't picked. Maybe they have given him a list of work-ons, and he hasn't delivered on those points. Or there's a character issue we don't know of.

              IMO, Papali'i is taking the spot that would otherwise have gone to Akira; not Evans. Evans is a completely different player and much more versatile than Akira, which makes him an excellent bench player. Evans absolutely deserves his call-up.

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              #220

              @stargazer said in AB EOYT 2018:

              About Akira, I can only guess, but there just must be something we don't know of why he isn't picked. Maybe they have given him a list of work-ons, and he hasn't delivered on those points. Or there's a character issue we don't know of.

              Getting in at 4pm in the Morning at a recent training when the head coach was informed and was waiting for you to arrive probably does not help your cause..Akira is a talent no question,but until you get your shit together in and around off field and training ethic,you don’t catch too many breaks let me give you the tip..!

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                Good on Dalton on making the main squad, he's going to be great All Black, a beast.

                The extra 19 selections are comically bad. Akira's omission being the obvious worst.

                Has Hanson got money on Japan?

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                • StargazerS Stargazer

                  @gt12 Todd's selection says something about how high they rate Todd compared to the other options and how much importance they attach to having a specialist openside in the squad to replace Cane; Papali'i is more a 6 and Evans is more an 8 and utitlity loosie.

                  Maybe they consider Fifita as a direct swap for Frizell?

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                  @stargazer said in AB EOYT 2018:

                  @gt12 Todd's selection says something about how high they rate Todd compared to the other options and how much importance they attach to having a specialist openside in the squad to replace Cane; Papali'i is more a 6 and Evans is more an 8 and utitlity loosie.

                  Maybe they consider Fifita as a direct swap for Frizell?

                  Clearly. But, I think that's dangerous, given that Squire will be healthy for about 5 minutes.

                  Edit: I strongly disagree about Dalton being a better 6. He is the most Cane-like flanker we've had since Cane was the most Richie-like flanker around. Tackles like mad, is built, and can carry.

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                    Does the Japanese RU realise they are getting the All Blacks C team for their test?

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                    • VirgilV Virgil

                      Does the Japanese RU realise they are getting the All Blacks C team for their test?

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                      Nepia
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                      @virgil said in AB EOYT 2018:

                      Does the Japanese RU realise they are getting the All Blacks C team for their test?

                      D?

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                      • NepiaN Nepia

                        @virgil said in AB EOYT 2018:

                        Does the Japanese RU realise they are getting the All Blacks C team for their test?

                        D?

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                        Kirwan
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                        @nepia said in AB EOYT 2018:

                        @virgil said in AB EOYT 2018:

                        Does the Japanese RU realise they are getting the All Blacks C team for their test?

                        D?

                        D is even pushing it.

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                        • ACT CrusaderA Offline
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                          Finally something to post about aye fullas.

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                          • StargazerS Stargazer

                            I'm happy with the main squad, especially because Matt Todd is in it. IMO he's the best back-up for Cane, despite Ardie's good performance against SA.

                            Out of the main squad are:

                            Not picked:
                            Tim Perry, Laumape, Coltman, NMS, who are all in the wider squad

                            Unavailable:
                            Cane, Frizell, Taufua

                            Of the newbies in the wider squad, I agree with all except O’Neill and Cameron, although I'm disappointed for Weber, who has been in good form for Hawke's Bay. Agree that Hunt is much better than Cameron. I don't understand these selections at all.

                            About Akira, I can only guess, but there just must be something we don't know of why he isn't picked. Maybe they have given him a list of work-ons, and he hasn't delivered on those points. Or there's a character issue we don't know of.

                            IMO, Papali'i is taking the spot that would otherwise have gone to Akira; not Evans. Evans is a completely different player and much more versatile than Akira, which makes him an excellent bench player. Evans absolutely deserves his call-up.

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                            @stargazer Papali'i is going as a 7. Evans is going as an 6/8 (who can cover 7 at a pinch). Evans has taken Akira's spot.

                            Don't get me wrong, I'm stoked for Evans and it's great we have another Magpie AB in the mix.

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                            • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                              Finally something to post about aye fullas.

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                              #228

                              @act-crusader said in AB EOYT 2018:

                              Finally something to post about aye fullas.

                              Are we looking into a Foster future here?

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                                I laughed out loud when I read the squad, especially the add on 19. Most left field squad since 2003?

                                As a die hard Canterbury fan I can't understand how Cameron makes it. Never mind Frizzel getting Isacc Rossed, and Akira getting Hika Ellioted. I assume Frizzell, Akira, Weber and Hemopo (and maybe a few others) are going to be playing for the Māori which makes sense for the fringe guys that might only have been the plus 19 or a couple of bench opportunities but not for Akira. I'd love a candid assessment of why not from Hansen. Is this a conspiracy to perform poorly and improve the case for government funding?

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                                • CyclopsC Cyclops

                                  I laughed out loud when I read the squad, especially the add on 19. Most left field squad since 2003?

                                  As a die hard Canterbury fan I can't understand how Cameron makes it. Never mind Frizzel getting Isacc Rossed, and Akira getting Hika Ellioted. I assume Frizzell, Akira, Weber and Hemopo (and maybe a few others) are going to be playing for the Māori which makes sense for the fringe guys that might only have been the plus 19 or a couple of bench opportunities but not for Akira. I'd love a candid assessment of why not from Hansen. Is this a conspiracy to perform poorly and improve the case for government funding?

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                                  taniwharugby
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                                  @cyclops is Frizell Maori?

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                                  • CyclopsC Cyclops

                                    I laughed out loud when I read the squad, especially the add on 19. Most left field squad since 2003?

                                    As a die hard Canterbury fan I can't understand how Cameron makes it. Never mind Frizzel getting Isacc Rossed, and Akira getting Hika Ellioted. I assume Frizzell, Akira, Weber and Hemopo (and maybe a few others) are going to be playing for the Māori which makes sense for the fringe guys that might only have been the plus 19 or a couple of bench opportunities but not for Akira. I'd love a candid assessment of why not from Hansen. Is this a conspiracy to perform poorly and improve the case for government funding?

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                                    Kirwan
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                                    #231

                                    @cyclops said in AB EOYT 2018:

                                    I laughed out loud when I read the squad, especially the add on 19. Most left field squad since 2003?

                                    As a die hard Canterbury fan I can't understand how Cameron makes it. Never mind Frizzel getting Isacc Rossed, and Akira getting Hika Ellioted. I assume Frizzell, Akira, Weber and Hemopo (and maybe a few others) are going to be playing for the Māori which makes sense for the fringe guys that might only have been the plus 19 or a couple of bench opportunities but not for Akira. I'd love a candid assessment of why not from Hansen. Is this a conspiracy to perform poorly and improve the case for government funding?

                                    It would certainly stop the character assassination fantasy stories that get posted here about him.

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                                      Any video of the press conference? I've only found the short 2min video

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                                      • S Steven Harris

                                        @stargazer said in AB EOYT 2018:

                                        About Akira, I can only guess, but there just must be something we don't know of why he isn't picked. Maybe they have given him a list of work-ons, and he hasn't delivered on those points. Or there's a character issue we don't know of.

                                        Getting in at 4pm in the Morning at a recent training when the head coach was informed and was waiting for you to arrive probably does not help your cause..Akira is a talent no question,but until you get your shit together in and around off field and training ethic,you don’t catch too many breaks let me give you the tip..!

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                                        @steven-harris is the sauce for this legit? Would really suck if it was his own behaviour sinking his chances. Or maybe he was on a bender after finding out he didn't make the cut.

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                                          Frizzell has a should injury, apparently.

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