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AB EOYT 2018

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  • StargazerS Offline
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    #216

    I'm happy with the main squad, especially because Matt Todd is in it. IMO he's the best back-up for Cane, despite Ardie's good performance against SA.

    Out of the main squad are:

    Not picked:
    Tim Perry, Laumape, Coltman, NMS, who are all in the wider squad

    Unavailable:
    Cane, Frizell, Taufua

    Of the newbies in the wider squad, I agree with all except O’Neill and Cameron, although I'm disappointed for Weber, who has been in good form for Hawke's Bay. Agree that Hunt is much better than Cameron. I don't understand these selections at all.

    About Akira, I can only guess, but there just must be something we don't know of why he isn't picked. Maybe they have given him a list of work-ons, and he hasn't delivered on those points. Or there's a character issue we don't know of.

    IMO, Papali'i is taking the spot that would otherwise have gone to Akira; not Evans. Evans is a completely different player and much more versatile than Akira, which makes him an excellent bench player. Evans absolutely deserves his call-up.

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    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

      I have no idea what is happening, are they naming the giant squad? It's so exciting to hear names being selected who i genuinely have no idea who they are.

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      @mariner4life said in AB EOYT 2018:

      I have no idea what is happening, are they naming the giant squad? It's so exciting to hear names being selected who i genuinely have no idea who they are.

      Welcome to my last 10 years of All Black support.

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      • StargazerS Stargazer

        I'm happy with the main squad, especially because Matt Todd is in it. IMO he's the best back-up for Cane, despite Ardie's good performance against SA.

        Out of the main squad are:

        Not picked:
        Tim Perry, Laumape, Coltman, NMS, who are all in the wider squad

        Unavailable:
        Cane, Frizell, Taufua

        Of the newbies in the wider squad, I agree with all except O’Neill and Cameron, although I'm disappointed for Weber, who has been in good form for Hawke's Bay. Agree that Hunt is much better than Cameron. I don't understand these selections at all.

        About Akira, I can only guess, but there just must be something we don't know of why he isn't picked. Maybe they have given him a list of work-ons, and he hasn't delivered on those points. Or there's a character issue we don't know of.

        IMO, Papali'i is taking the spot that would otherwise have gone to Akira; not Evans. Evans is a completely different player and much more versatile than Akira, which makes him an excellent bench player. Evans absolutely deserves his call-up.

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        @stargazer

        Personally, I think they should have taken Dalton and Evans in the main squad, with Todd not selected. I agree about Evans’ versatility.

        I’m so surprised to see Fifita back - how does he fit in to a squad with four locks, one of who can cover 6 from the bench? I don’t get it. Having Akira there in his place looks the ticket to me.

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        • gt12G gt12

          @stargazer

          Personally, I think they should have taken Dalton and Evans in the main squad, with Todd not selected. I agree about Evans’ versatility.

          I’m so surprised to see Fifita back - how does he fit in to a squad with four locks, one of who can cover 6 from the bench? I don’t get it. Having Akira there in his place looks the ticket to me.

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          #219

          @gt12 Todd's selection says something about how high they rate Todd compared to the other options and how much importance they attach to having a specialist openside in the squad to replace Cane; Papali'i is more a 6 and Evans is more an 8 and utitlity loosie.

          Maybe they consider Fifita as a direct swap for Frizell?

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          • StargazerS Stargazer

            I'm happy with the main squad, especially because Matt Todd is in it. IMO he's the best back-up for Cane, despite Ardie's good performance against SA.

            Out of the main squad are:

            Not picked:
            Tim Perry, Laumape, Coltman, NMS, who are all in the wider squad

            Unavailable:
            Cane, Frizell, Taufua

            Of the newbies in the wider squad, I agree with all except O’Neill and Cameron, although I'm disappointed for Weber, who has been in good form for Hawke's Bay. Agree that Hunt is much better than Cameron. I don't understand these selections at all.

            About Akira, I can only guess, but there just must be something we don't know of why he isn't picked. Maybe they have given him a list of work-ons, and he hasn't delivered on those points. Or there's a character issue we don't know of.

            IMO, Papali'i is taking the spot that would otherwise have gone to Akira; not Evans. Evans is a completely different player and much more versatile than Akira, which makes him an excellent bench player. Evans absolutely deserves his call-up.

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            #220

            @stargazer said in AB EOYT 2018:

            About Akira, I can only guess, but there just must be something we don't know of why he isn't picked. Maybe they have given him a list of work-ons, and he hasn't delivered on those points. Or there's a character issue we don't know of.

            Getting in at 4pm in the Morning at a recent training when the head coach was informed and was waiting for you to arrive probably does not help your cause..Akira is a talent no question,but until you get your shit together in and around off field and training ethic,you don’t catch too many breaks let me give you the tip..!

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            • KirwanK Offline
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              Kirwan
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              #221

              Good on Dalton on making the main squad, he's going to be great All Black, a beast.

              The extra 19 selections are comically bad. Akira's omission being the obvious worst.

              Has Hanson got money on Japan?

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              • StargazerS Stargazer

                @gt12 Todd's selection says something about how high they rate Todd compared to the other options and how much importance they attach to having a specialist openside in the squad to replace Cane; Papali'i is more a 6 and Evans is more an 8 and utitlity loosie.

                Maybe they consider Fifita as a direct swap for Frizell?

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                #222

                @stargazer said in AB EOYT 2018:

                @gt12 Todd's selection says something about how high they rate Todd compared to the other options and how much importance they attach to having a specialist openside in the squad to replace Cane; Papali'i is more a 6 and Evans is more an 8 and utitlity loosie.

                Maybe they consider Fifita as a direct swap for Frizell?

                Clearly. But, I think that's dangerous, given that Squire will be healthy for about 5 minutes.

                Edit: I strongly disagree about Dalton being a better 6. He is the most Cane-like flanker we've had since Cane was the most Richie-like flanker around. Tackles like mad, is built, and can carry.

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                • VirgilV Offline
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                  Does the Japanese RU realise they are getting the All Blacks C team for their test?

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                  • VirgilV Virgil

                    Does the Japanese RU realise they are getting the All Blacks C team for their test?

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                    Nepia
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                    #224

                    @virgil said in AB EOYT 2018:

                    Does the Japanese RU realise they are getting the All Blacks C team for their test?

                    D?

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                    • NepiaN Nepia

                      @virgil said in AB EOYT 2018:

                      Does the Japanese RU realise they are getting the All Blacks C team for their test?

                      D?

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                      Kirwan
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                      #225

                      @nepia said in AB EOYT 2018:

                      @virgil said in AB EOYT 2018:

                      Does the Japanese RU realise they are getting the All Blacks C team for their test?

                      D?

                      D is even pushing it.

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                      • ACT CrusaderA Offline
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                        #226

                        Finally something to post about aye fullas.

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                        • StargazerS Stargazer

                          I'm happy with the main squad, especially because Matt Todd is in it. IMO he's the best back-up for Cane, despite Ardie's good performance against SA.

                          Out of the main squad are:

                          Not picked:
                          Tim Perry, Laumape, Coltman, NMS, who are all in the wider squad

                          Unavailable:
                          Cane, Frizell, Taufua

                          Of the newbies in the wider squad, I agree with all except O’Neill and Cameron, although I'm disappointed for Weber, who has been in good form for Hawke's Bay. Agree that Hunt is much better than Cameron. I don't understand these selections at all.

                          About Akira, I can only guess, but there just must be something we don't know of why he isn't picked. Maybe they have given him a list of work-ons, and he hasn't delivered on those points. Or there's a character issue we don't know of.

                          IMO, Papali'i is taking the spot that would otherwise have gone to Akira; not Evans. Evans is a completely different player and much more versatile than Akira, which makes him an excellent bench player. Evans absolutely deserves his call-up.

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                          Nepia
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                          #227

                          @stargazer Papali'i is going as a 7. Evans is going as an 6/8 (who can cover 7 at a pinch). Evans has taken Akira's spot.

                          Don't get me wrong, I'm stoked for Evans and it's great we have another Magpie AB in the mix.

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                          • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                            Finally something to post about aye fullas.

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                            Kirwan
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #228

                            @act-crusader said in AB EOYT 2018:

                            Finally something to post about aye fullas.

                            Are we looking into a Foster future here?

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                            • CyclopsC Offline
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                              #229

                              I laughed out loud when I read the squad, especially the add on 19. Most left field squad since 2003?

                              As a die hard Canterbury fan I can't understand how Cameron makes it. Never mind Frizzel getting Isacc Rossed, and Akira getting Hika Ellioted. I assume Frizzell, Akira, Weber and Hemopo (and maybe a few others) are going to be playing for the Māori which makes sense for the fringe guys that might only have been the plus 19 or a couple of bench opportunities but not for Akira. I'd love a candid assessment of why not from Hansen. Is this a conspiracy to perform poorly and improve the case for government funding?

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                              • CyclopsC Cyclops

                                I laughed out loud when I read the squad, especially the add on 19. Most left field squad since 2003?

                                As a die hard Canterbury fan I can't understand how Cameron makes it. Never mind Frizzel getting Isacc Rossed, and Akira getting Hika Ellioted. I assume Frizzell, Akira, Weber and Hemopo (and maybe a few others) are going to be playing for the Māori which makes sense for the fringe guys that might only have been the plus 19 or a couple of bench opportunities but not for Akira. I'd love a candid assessment of why not from Hansen. Is this a conspiracy to perform poorly and improve the case for government funding?

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                                taniwharugby
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                                #230

                                @cyclops is Frizell Maori?

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                                • CyclopsC Cyclops

                                  I laughed out loud when I read the squad, especially the add on 19. Most left field squad since 2003?

                                  As a die hard Canterbury fan I can't understand how Cameron makes it. Never mind Frizzel getting Isacc Rossed, and Akira getting Hika Ellioted. I assume Frizzell, Akira, Weber and Hemopo (and maybe a few others) are going to be playing for the Māori which makes sense for the fringe guys that might only have been the plus 19 or a couple of bench opportunities but not for Akira. I'd love a candid assessment of why not from Hansen. Is this a conspiracy to perform poorly and improve the case for government funding?

                                  KirwanK Offline
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                                  Kirwan
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #231

                                  @cyclops said in AB EOYT 2018:

                                  I laughed out loud when I read the squad, especially the add on 19. Most left field squad since 2003?

                                  As a die hard Canterbury fan I can't understand how Cameron makes it. Never mind Frizzel getting Isacc Rossed, and Akira getting Hika Ellioted. I assume Frizzell, Akira, Weber and Hemopo (and maybe a few others) are going to be playing for the Māori which makes sense for the fringe guys that might only have been the plus 19 or a couple of bench opportunities but not for Akira. I'd love a candid assessment of why not from Hansen. Is this a conspiracy to perform poorly and improve the case for government funding?

                                  It would certainly stop the character assassination fantasy stories that get posted here about him.

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                                    Any video of the press conference? I've only found the short 2min video

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                                    • S Steven Harris

                                      @stargazer said in AB EOYT 2018:

                                      About Akira, I can only guess, but there just must be something we don't know of why he isn't picked. Maybe they have given him a list of work-ons, and he hasn't delivered on those points. Or there's a character issue we don't know of.

                                      Getting in at 4pm in the Morning at a recent training when the head coach was informed and was waiting for you to arrive probably does not help your cause..Akira is a talent no question,but until you get your shit together in and around off field and training ethic,you don’t catch too many breaks let me give you the tip..!

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                                      @steven-harris is the sauce for this legit? Would really suck if it was his own behaviour sinking his chances. Or maybe he was on a bender after finding out he didn't make the cut.

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                                        #234

                                        Frizzell has a should injury, apparently.

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                                        • TimT Away
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                                          Brett Cameron is a real head-scratcher.

                                          He's the 4th best 10 in the country? I fucking doubt it.

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