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  • canefanC canefan

    @no-quarter said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

    @canefan I haven't been able to catch much of the first three days as have been busy, but Patel had it on a string in that final session, was really high quality bowling, making them play at everything without giving them any half trackers or half volleys to relieve the pressure.

    Wags provides all the heart, passion and just raw fucking emotion that you want in a fast bowler. I fucking love that guy.

    He's fuelled on anger, real or usually imagined

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    @canefan said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

    He's fuelled on anger, real or usually imagined

    And what is your fucking problem with that!!!!

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    • SnowyS Snowy

      @canefan said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

      He's fuelled on anger, real or usually imagined

      And what is your fucking problem with that!!!!

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      @snowy said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

      @canefan said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

      He's fuelled on anger, real or usually imagined

      And what is your fucking problem with that!!!!

      That's what I love about him!

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      • canefanC canefan

        @snowy said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

        @canefan said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

        He's fuelled on anger, real or usually imagined

        And what is your fucking problem with that!!!!

        That's what I love about him!

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        @canefan I might have been a bit too subtle there, or you're being even more subtle...(one exclamation point isn't very angry though, you could do better).

        Either way, we agree, an angry Wagner is great to watch.

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          One of the the pleasing things was that the team was basically a Tauranga City team with a few extras.

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            Hesson clearly didn’t see anything worthwhile from Patel, despite his record the past 3 years

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            • VirgilV Virgil

              Hesson clearly didn’t see anything worthwhile from Patel, despite his record the past 3 years

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              @virgil said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

              Hesson clearly didn’t see anything worthwhile from Patel, despite his record the past 3 years

              I guess he valued Mark Craig's ( admittedly very good ) talents as a low order batsman so much he was blinded to the fact he was a completely shithouse spin bowler most of the time.

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              • VirgilV Virgil

                Hesson clearly didn’t see anything worthwhile from Patel, despite his record the past 3 years

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                @virgil said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

                Hesson clearly didn’t see anything worthwhile from Patel, despite his record the past 3 years

                Patel wouldn't be there if Santner was fit.

                It's good that I can remember him for this, and not Devcich hitting 6 fours off one of his overs in the T20 final.

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                • MN5M MN5

                  @virgil said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

                  Hesson clearly didn’t see anything worthwhile from Patel, despite his record the past 3 years

                  I guess he valued Mark Craig's ( admittedly very good ) talents as a low order batsman so much he was blinded to the fact he was a completely shithouse spin bowler most of the time.

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                  @mn5 said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

                  @virgil said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

                  Hesson clearly didn’t see anything worthwhile from Patel, despite his record the past 3 years

                  I guess he valued Mark Craig's ( admittedly very good ) talents as a low order batsman so much he was blinded to the fact he was a completely shithouse spin bowler most of the time.

                  He took a 5fer when we beat England at Leeds last tour, including Alastair Cook. I will always love him for that.

                  But yeah agree with you.

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                  • TeWaioT TeWaio

                    @mn5 said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

                    @virgil said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

                    Hesson clearly didn’t see anything worthwhile from Patel, despite his record the past 3 years

                    I guess he valued Mark Craig's ( admittedly very good ) talents as a low order batsman so much he was blinded to the fact he was a completely shithouse spin bowler most of the time.

                    He took a 5fer when we beat England at Leeds last tour, including Alastair Cook. I will always love him for that.

                    But yeah agree with you.

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                    @tewaio and like Patel, Craig was MoM on debut taking 8 in the victory over WI away - best bowling figures on debut for NZ and giving us only our second ever win in the Caribbean.

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                      No denying Craig had a small handful of absolutely brilliant performances but an average of 46 indicates these were very few.

                      Patels first class record is pretty encouraging though. Will be interesting if this one performance is enough to leapfrog Sodhi cos I have a feeling the selectors go back to three seamers in NZ particularly if they have 'all rounder' Mitch Santner in the mix too.

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                        I doubt both Santner and Patel make the same XI in any conditions as they are both left-armers, albeit quite different due to their heights. Somerville may get a chance in either the 2nd or 3rd tests vs Pakistan because Stead has mentioned rotating the bowlers.

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                          Is de Grandhomme worth sticking with? He almost never performs with the bat which really annoys me. All the talent in the world but has no temperament. Who else is there?

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                            CdGH is a throwback to 90s era Black Caps where our limited overs basher gets a run in the test side because there is no one else.

                            Still dining out on that one performance with the ball...

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                              You might as well play Southee in that role based on the personnel available. While the tail becomes even longer if Southee bats at 7, he'll either get no runs like CdG or be good for a quick 20-30. Plus his bowling should be better than what CdG is offering.

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                                You might as well play Southee in that role based on the personnel available. While the tail becomes even longer if Southee bats at 7, he'll either get no runs like CdG or be good for a quick 20-30. Plus his bowling should be better than what CdG is offering.

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                                @bovidae said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

                                You might as well play Southee in that role based on the personnel available. While the tail becomes even longer if Southee bats at 7, he'll either get no runs like CdG or be good for a quick 20-30. Plus his bowling should be better than what CdG is offering.

                                So the BCs are in the luxurious position of jettisoning a guy with a sub 30/plus 30 bowling/batting average ? Righto....

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                                  #193

                                  Funnily enough, that was Colin's first test away from home. He doesn't have a good batting record away from home! 🙂

                                  He's actually done better than I expected though - I thought that 1st test bowling performance might be an aberration that would, in the long run, cost us more than a single test victory was worth. I'm probably still of that opinion, but he's done well enough with the bat subsequently that he's been worth his place.

                                  Seems to be in terrible form with the bat right now, so you'd be picking him on trust rather than expectation for the second test. I expect Stead will stick with him and hope he's going to come right.

                                  The bowling won that match for us, while the batting was pretty abysmal, so trading in an all rounder for another bowler probably doesn't make too much sense.

                                  The alternatives are Southee (most likely), playing Blundell as a batsman (next most likely), Matt Henry (unlikely) - or further bolstering the spin attack with this guy Somerville (who despite Larsen's optimism doesn't seem like much of a batsman).

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                                  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                    CdGH is a throwback to 90s era Black Caps where our limited overs basher gets a run in the test side because there is no one else.

                                    Still dining out on that one performance with the ball...

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                                    @mariner4life said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

                                    CdGH is a throwback to 90s era Black Caps where our limited overs basher gets a run in the test side because there is no one else.

                                    Still dining out on that one performance with the ball...

                                    Looking at his stats suggests he may actually be a best test player than limited overs player. They also suggest he is a terrible 20/20 player so I'm not sure why we keep picking him in that form of the game.

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                                      pffft test cricket, why aren't we talking about the T10 league being played in the UAE?

                                      Some Afghan dude by the name of Mo Shahzad hit 74 off 16 the other day to win their game (while BMac stood at the other end watching). The video is worth it for some ridiculous shots, and Shane Watson's face as he gets carted all over the place.

                                      That's fucking cricket right there. 5 days is for people with time on their hands. Hour and a half tops!!

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                                        pffft test cricket, why aren't we talking about the T10 league being played in the UAE?

                                        Some Afghan dude by the name of Mo Shahzad hit 74 off 16 the other day to win their game (while BMac stood at the other end watching). The video is worth it for some ridiculous shots, and Shane Watson's face as he gets carted all over the place.

                                        That's fucking cricket right there. 5 days is for people with time on their hands. Hour and a half tops!!

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                                        @mariner4life said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

                                        That's fucking cricket right there. 5 days is for people with time on their hands. Hour and a half tops!!

                                        How do you find all the cricket focus groups you attend? Theraputic? The good news is, the administrators are listening to you.

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                                        • nzzpN nzzp

                                          @mariner4life said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

                                          That's fucking cricket right there. 5 days is for people with time on their hands. Hour and a half tops!!

                                          How do you find all the cricket focus groups you attend? Theraputic? The good news is, the administrators are listening to you.

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                                          @nzzp said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

                                          @mariner4life said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

                                          That's fucking cricket right there. 5 days is for people with time on their hands. Hour and a half tops!!

                                          How do you find all the cricket focus groups you attend? Theraputic? The good news is, the administrators are listening to you.

                                          Sixes, fours, and no attention spans!! That's the future y'all!! ADHD Cricket, coming to a stadium near you

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