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    @virgil said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

    Hesson clearly didn’t see anything worthwhile from Patel, despite his record the past 3 years

    Patel wouldn't be there if Santner was fit.

    It's good that I can remember him for this, and not Devcich hitting 6 fours off one of his overs in the T20 final.

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    @mn5 said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

    @virgil said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

    Hesson clearly didn’t see anything worthwhile from Patel, despite his record the past 3 years

    I guess he valued Mark Craig's ( admittedly very good ) talents as a low order batsman so much he was blinded to the fact he was a completely shithouse spin bowler most of the time.

    He took a 5fer when we beat England at Leeds last tour, including Alastair Cook. I will always love him for that.

    But yeah agree with you.

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    @tewaio and like Patel, Craig was MoM on debut taking 8 in the victory over WI away - best bowling figures on debut for NZ and giving us only our second ever win in the Caribbean.

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    No denying Craig had a small handful of absolutely brilliant performances but an average of 46 indicates these were very few.

    Patels first class record is pretty encouraging though. Will be interesting if this one performance is enough to leapfrog Sodhi cos I have a feeling the selectors go back to three seamers in NZ particularly if they have 'all rounder' Mitch Santner in the mix too.

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    I doubt both Santner and Patel make the same XI in any conditions as they are both left-armers, albeit quite different due to their heights. Somerville may get a chance in either the 2nd or 3rd tests vs Pakistan because Stead has mentioned rotating the bowlers.

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    Is de Grandhomme worth sticking with? He almost never performs with the bat which really annoys me. All the talent in the world but has no temperament. Who else is there?

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    CdGH is a throwback to 90s era Black Caps where our limited overs basher gets a run in the test side because there is no one else.

    Still dining out on that one performance with the ball...

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    You might as well play Southee in that role based on the personnel available. While the tail becomes even longer if Southee bats at 7, he'll either get no runs like CdG or be good for a quick 20-30. Plus his bowling should be better than what CdG is offering.

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    @bovidae said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

    You might as well play Southee in that role based on the personnel available. While the tail becomes even longer if Southee bats at 7, he'll either get no runs like CdG or be good for a quick 20-30. Plus his bowling should be better than what CdG is offering.

    So the BCs are in the luxurious position of jettisoning a guy with a sub 30/plus 30 bowling/batting average ? Righto....

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    Funnily enough, that was Colin's first test away from home. He doesn't have a good batting record away from home! 🙂

    He's actually done better than I expected though - I thought that 1st test bowling performance might be an aberration that would, in the long run, cost us more than a single test victory was worth. I'm probably still of that opinion, but he's done well enough with the bat subsequently that he's been worth his place.

    Seems to be in terrible form with the bat right now, so you'd be picking him on trust rather than expectation for the second test. I expect Stead will stick with him and hope he's going to come right.

    The bowling won that match for us, while the batting was pretty abysmal, so trading in an all rounder for another bowler probably doesn't make too much sense.

    The alternatives are Southee (most likely), playing Blundell as a batsman (next most likely), Matt Henry (unlikely) - or further bolstering the spin attack with this guy Somerville (who despite Larsen's optimism doesn't seem like much of a batsman).

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    @mariner4life said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

    CdGH is a throwback to 90s era Black Caps where our limited overs basher gets a run in the test side because there is no one else.

    Still dining out on that one performance with the ball...

    Looking at his stats suggests he may actually be a best test player than limited overs player. They also suggest he is a terrible 20/20 player so I'm not sure why we keep picking him in that form of the game.

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    pffft test cricket, why aren't we talking about the T10 league being played in the UAE?

    Some Afghan dude by the name of Mo Shahzad hit 74 off 16 the other day to win their game (while BMac stood at the other end watching). The video is worth it for some ridiculous shots, and Shane Watson's face as he gets carted all over the place.

    That's fucking cricket right there. 5 days is for people with time on their hands. Hour and a half tops!!

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    @mariner4life said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

    That's fucking cricket right there. 5 days is for people with time on their hands. Hour and a half tops!!

    How do you find all the cricket focus groups you attend? Theraputic? The good news is, the administrators are listening to you.

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    @nzzp said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

    @mariner4life said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

    That's fucking cricket right there. 5 days is for people with time on their hands. Hour and a half tops!!

    How do you find all the cricket focus groups you attend? Theraputic? The good news is, the administrators are listening to you.

    Sixes, fours, and no attention spans!! That's the future y'all!! ADHD Cricket, coming to a stadium near you

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    @mariner4life said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

    @nzzp said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

    @mariner4life said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

    That's fucking cricket right there. 5 days is for people with time on their hands. Hour and a half tops!!

    How do you find all the cricket focus groups you attend? Theraputic? The good news is, the administrators are listening to you.

    Sixes, fours, and no attention spans!! That's the future y'all!! ADHD Cricket, coming to a stadium near you

    I can't read an answer that long. TL;DR?

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    @nzzp said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

    @mariner4life said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

    @nzzp said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

    @mariner4life said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

    That's fucking cricket right there. 5 days is for people with time on their hands. Hour and a half tops!!

    How do you find all the cricket focus groups you attend? Theraputic? The good news is, the administrators are listening to you.

    Sixes, fours, and no attention spans!! That's the future y'all!! ADHD Cricket, coming to a stadium near you

    I can't read an answer that long. TL;DR?

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    @mariner4life said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

    pffft test cricket, why aren't we talking about the T10 league being played in the UAE?

    Some Afghan dude by the name of Mo Shahzad hit 74 off 16 the other day to win their game (while BMac stood at the other end watching). The video is worth it for some ridiculous shots, and Shane Watson's face as he gets carted all over the place.

    That's fucking cricket right there. 5 days is for people with time on their hands. Hour and a half tops!!

    I feel like that about Golf

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    Pakistan won toss and batting. Teams unchanged. Need some early wickets and a massive second innings to win here - we'll struggle to chase anything ona 4th day pitch in Dubai.

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    Colin nicking blokes out on the first morning of a test disgusts me so much

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    Looking like they'll set a big first innings total. Hoping we see another collapse and dont suffer the same fate ourselves. Unlucky with that missed caught behind, def looked like a giant edge.

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