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  • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

    @mofitzy_ said in Boxing Thread:

    Fury has gone from villain to hero.

    Joshua not wanting to fight in the US is looking like a smart decision.

    Plus they were patting themselves on the back for a crowd of 17,698

    Makes no sense for Joshua when he can get 75,000 in Cardiff and 90,000 in Wembley.

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    #85

    @mikethesnow said in Boxing Thread:

    @mofitzy_ said in Boxing Thread:

    Fury has gone from villain to hero.

    Joshua not wanting to fight in the US is looking like a smart decision.

    Plus they were patting themselves on the back for a crowd of 17,698

    Makes no sense for Joshua when he can get 75,000 in Cardiff and 90,000 in Wembley.

    It would be interesting to compare the PPV numbers though. A US fight will add some local audience to the paying UK audience that may out weigh the bums on seats.

    Edit: Have found that AJs last 2 fights attracted 1.5m PPVs (Kilitscho fight slightly higher than JP fight) easily the highest PPVs in UK boxing history.

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    • CrucialC Crucial

      @mikethesnow said in Boxing Thread:

      @mofitzy_ said in Boxing Thread:

      Fury has gone from villain to hero.

      Joshua not wanting to fight in the US is looking like a smart decision.

      Plus they were patting themselves on the back for a crowd of 17,698

      Makes no sense for Joshua when he can get 75,000 in Cardiff and 90,000 in Wembley.

      It would be interesting to compare the PPV numbers though. A US fight will add some local audience to the paying UK audience that may out weigh the bums on seats.

      Edit: Have found that AJs last 2 fights attracted 1.5m PPVs (Kilitscho fight slightly higher than JP fight) easily the highest PPVs in UK boxing history.

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      @crucial said in Boxing Thread:

      @mikethesnow said in Boxing Thread:

      @mofitzy_ said in Boxing Thread:

      Fury has gone from villain to hero.

      Joshua not wanting to fight in the US is looking like a smart decision.

      Plus they were patting themselves on the back for a crowd of 17,698

      Makes no sense for Joshua when he can get 75,000 in Cardiff and 90,000 in Wembley.

      It would be interesting to compare the PPV numbers though. A US fight will add some local audience to the paying UK audience that may out weigh the bums on seats.

      Edit: Have found that AJs last 2 fights attracted 1.5m PPVs (Kilitscho fight slightly higher than JP fight) easily the highest PPVs in UK boxing history.

      Yeah I think overall a UK based fight makes sense.

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      • A African Monkey

        Had Fury winning 114-112 myself. Still, he got careless and paid for it.

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        @african-monkey said in Boxing Thread:

        Had Fury winning 114-112 myself. Still, he got careless and paid for it.

        Watched it again , that’s about what I thought ,

        Had fury winning 8 rounds by 1 point , wilder winning 2 rounds outside the 2 knockdown rounds by 1 point , the two knockdown rounds Wilder winning by 2 points ,

        2 points differential , win to fury imo .

        But it is closer than many are saying due to the knockdowns

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        • MajorPomM MajorPom

          @mofitzy_ said in Boxing Thread:

          Fury has gone from villain to hero.

          Joshua not wanting to fight in the US is looking like a smart decision.

          He'll always struggle to an extent in the UK as he's a traveller. And this section of society is truly hated by most (including by me).

          And for bloody good reasons.

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          @majorrage said in Boxing Thread:

          @mofitzy_ said in Boxing Thread:

          Fury has gone from villain to hero.

          Joshua not wanting to fight in the US is looking like a smart decision.

          He'll always struggle to an extent in the UK as he's a traveller. And this section of society is truly hated by most (including by me).

          And for bloody good reasons.

          Not having a go Rage, but you've just committed a crime in modern Britain.

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            #89

            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/combat-sports/109111564/deontay-wilder-claims-he-broke-right-arm-in-buildup-to-tyson-fury-fight

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            • BovidaeB Bovidae

              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/combat-sports/109111564/deontay-wilder-claims-he-broke-right-arm-in-buildup-to-tyson-fury-fight

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              @bovidae this shit has got to stop and/or be punished. If you do not disclose an injury you are potentially tainting the contest and the knock on is fucking up the odds. That needs to be punished.

              He should be forced to prove it too. If he can't then he needs to continue to let the world accept that for most of that fight Fury was resting his balls on his chin, along with his punches.

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              • raznomoreR raznomore

                @bovidae this shit has got to stop and/or be punished. If you do not disclose an injury you are potentially tainting the contest and the knock on is fucking up the odds. That needs to be punished.

                He should be forced to prove it too. If he can't then he needs to continue to let the world accept that for most of that fight Fury was resting his balls on his chin, along with his punches.

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                #91

                @raznomore So you declare your injury and cancel the fight? You aren't going to give your opponent any inside info on injuries before a fight.

                I don't have any sympathy for punters betting on boxing.

                Parker didn't disclose his elbow surgery either prior to a fight.

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                • BovidaeB Bovidae

                  @raznomore So you declare your injury and cancel the fight? You aren't going to give your opponent any inside info on injuries before a fight.

                  I don't have any sympathy for punters betting on boxing.

                  Parker didn't disclose his elbow surgery either prior to a fight.

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                  @bovidae cancel it. Im not much of a gambler but I absolutely feel sorry for people who work hard and decide to have a bit of a punt with their hard earned. Im not thinking of the degenerate gambler betting his kids future away.

                  Hiding an injury, of this magnitude is potentially catastrophic for the spectacle. Maybe not in this case, as it turned out we were given a classic. But imagine paying $70 to watch a fight that lasted 3 rounds because Wilder couldn't raise his arm.

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                  • raznomoreR raznomore

                    @bovidae cancel it. Im not much of a gambler but I absolutely feel sorry for people who work hard and decide to have a bit of a punt with their hard earned. Im not thinking of the degenerate gambler betting his kids future away.

                    Hiding an injury, of this magnitude is potentially catastrophic for the spectacle. Maybe not in this case, as it turned out we were given a classic. But imagine paying $70 to watch a fight that lasted 3 rounds because Wilder couldn't raise his arm.

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                    @raznomore said in Boxing Thread:

                    @bovidae cancel it. Im not much of a gambler but I absolutely feel sorry for people who work hard and decide to have a bit of a punt with their hard earned. Im not thinking of the degenerate gambler betting his kids future away.

                    Hiding an injury, of this magnitude is potentially catastrophic for the spectacle. Maybe not in this case, as it turned out we were given a classic. But imagine paying $70 to watch a fight that lasted 3 rounds because Wilder couldn't raise his arm.

                    You're a nicer bloke than me Raz. I have no time for any gambling sob stories whatsoever ( or stories of big wins either )

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                      Scuse my ignorance but how does point scoring work in boxing?

                      You'll note I have not previously contributed to this thread (I think ... ).

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                      • boobooB booboo

                        Scuse my ignorance but how does point scoring work in boxing?

                        You'll note I have not previously contributed to this thread (I think ... ).

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                        @booboo said in Boxing Thread:

                        Scuse my ignorance but how does point scoring work in boxing?

                        You'll note I have not previously contributed to this thread (I think ... ).

                        It's remarkably simple. You win a round you get 10 points and the other boxer gets nine. If you knock someone down you get ten and they get eight. Drawn rounds are 10 a piece.

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                        • antipodeanA antipodean

                          @booboo said in Boxing Thread:

                          Scuse my ignorance but how does point scoring work in boxing?

                          You'll note I have not previously contributed to this thread (I think ... ).

                          It's remarkably simple. You win a round you get 10 points and the other boxer gets nine. If you knock someone down you get ten and they get eight. Drawn rounds are 10 a piece.

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                          @antipodean said in Boxing Thread:

                          @booboo said in Boxing Thread:

                          Scuse my ignorance but how does point scoring work in boxing?

                          You'll note I have not previously contributed to this thread (I think ... ).

                          It's remarkably simple. You win a round you get 10 points and the other boxer gets nine. If you knock someone down you get ten and they get eight. Drawn rounds are 10 a piece.

                          Cool. Thanks much.

                          The next level is: how do you win a round?

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                          • boobooB booboo

                            @antipodean said in Boxing Thread:

                            @booboo said in Boxing Thread:

                            Scuse my ignorance but how does point scoring work in boxing?

                            You'll note I have not previously contributed to this thread (I think ... ).

                            It's remarkably simple. You win a round you get 10 points and the other boxer gets nine. If you knock someone down you get ten and they get eight. Drawn rounds are 10 a piece.

                            Cool. Thanks much.

                            The next level is: how do you win a round?

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                            @booboo said in Boxing Thread:

                            @antipodean said in Boxing Thread:

                            @booboo said in Boxing Thread:

                            Scuse my ignorance but how does point scoring work in boxing?

                            You'll note I have not previously contributed to this thread (I think ... ).

                            It's remarkably simple. You win a round you get 10 points and the other boxer gets nine. If you knock someone down you get ten and they get eight. Drawn rounds are 10 a piece.

                            Cool. Thanks much.

                            The next level is: how do you win a round?

                            Clean punches, defence, dominating the ring, etc.

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                            • antipodeanA antipodean

                              @booboo said in Boxing Thread:

                              @antipodean said in Boxing Thread:

                              @booboo said in Boxing Thread:

                              Scuse my ignorance but how does point scoring work in boxing?

                              You'll note I have not previously contributed to this thread (I think ... ).

                              It's remarkably simple. You win a round you get 10 points and the other boxer gets nine. If you knock someone down you get ten and they get eight. Drawn rounds are 10 a piece.

                              Cool. Thanks much.

                              The next level is: how do you win a round?

                              Clean punches, defence, dominating the ring, etc.

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                              Crucial
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                              @antipodean said in Boxing Thread:

                              @booboo said in Boxing Thread:

                              @antipodean said in Boxing Thread:

                              @booboo said in Boxing Thread:

                              Scuse my ignorance but how does point scoring work in boxing?

                              You'll note I have not previously contributed to this thread (I think ... ).

                              It's remarkably simple. You win a round you get 10 points and the other boxer gets nine. If you knock someone down you get ten and they get eight. Drawn rounds are 10 a piece.

                              Cool. Thanks much.

                              The next level is: how do you win a round?

                              Clean punches, defence, dominating the ring, etc.

                              This is where the subjective element causes debate.
                              It can be down to personal preference of a style by a judge. You can be a technically perfect boxer that throws 4 clean pinpoint punches in a round and dance and dodge your opponent yet get beaten on the scorecard because a judge likes the way the other guy is trying to take the fight to you and is throwing lots and chasing you around.
                              You have to take the judges out of the competition, especially when it isn't your camp that is paying for the hookers waiting for them at their hotel rooms.

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                                Rumours Parker will fight chisora on April 20th in the uk ,

                                Hearn is trying to put a big card together with 3 heavyweight fights on the bill,

                                White vs povetkin the main event , Lucas Browne fighting a Brit fighter the other one .

                                If true , shapes as a must win for joe to prevent further sliding

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                                  MiketheSnow
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                                  #100

                                  Wilder v Breazeale

                                  Not the fight we wanted to see, but fair play can't fault the finish

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                                    That was lethal.
                                    Wilder looking like more of a boxer than a windwill as well.
                                    Time for AJ to stop running.

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                                      #102

                                      That right hand is lethal , and he throws it from so far back ,

                                      He is a weird one wilder ,so unorthodox, but has the rare ability to be behind on the scorecards , but back himself to put you to sleep when the opportunity arises , and he does it within the blink of an eye with a single shot

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                                      • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

                                        That right hand is lethal , and he throws it from so far back ,

                                        He is a weird one wilder ,so unorthodox, but has the rare ability to be behind on the scorecards , but back himself to put you to sleep when the opportunity arises , and he does it within the blink of an eye with a single shot

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                                        @kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:

                                        That right hand is lethal , and he throws it from so far back ,

                                        He is a weird one wilder ,so unorthodox, but has the rare ability to be behind on the scorecards , but back himself to put you to sleep when the opportunity arises , and he does it within the blink of an eye with a single shot

                                        it puts Tyson Fury in perspective. Massively tough to get up from those kind of shots.

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                                        • MN5M MN5

                                          @kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:

                                          That right hand is lethal , and he throws it from so far back ,

                                          He is a weird one wilder ,so unorthodox, but has the rare ability to be behind on the scorecards , but back himself to put you to sleep when the opportunity arises , and he does it within the blink of an eye with a single shot

                                          it puts Tyson Fury in perspective. Massively tough to get up from those kind of shots.

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                                          @MN5 said in Boxing Thread:

                                          @kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:

                                          That right hand is lethal , and he throws it from so far back ,

                                          He is a weird one wilder ,so unorthodox, but has the rare ability to be behind on the scorecards , but back himself to put you to sleep when the opportunity arises , and he does it within the blink of an eye with a single shot

                                          it puts Tyson Fury in perspective. Massively tough to get up from those kind of shots.

                                          And fury went so long without being hit , not convinced any other heavyweight can manage that ,

                                          With Joshua , who has his own power it might be a matter of , knock him out before he gets me , wilder does leave the door right open when he lunges forward

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