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2020 All Blacks Squad

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  • BovidaeB Bovidae

    @mariner4life At least he'd cull BOP deadweights like Harris. 😉

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    @bovidae said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

    @mariner4life At least he'd cull BOP deadweights like Harris. 😉

    Not judging on previous history, he wouldn't.

    De Malmanche was an excellent hooker apart from his truly terrible line-out throwing. Foster kept him as starter, naturally.

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    • StargazerS Stargazer

      @crucial That's why I referred to (not) having an AB dad. Having ABs in your family seems to get you further ...

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      @stargazer said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

      @crucial That's why I referred to (not) having an AB dad. Having ABs in your family seems to get you further ...

      Nepotism aside, Devan Flanders is not a name you’d give the hero in a cool movie.

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        NZ vs Scotland 2020 :

        OfaT
        Taylor
        Laulala
        Retallick
        Parkinson
        Luke Jacobson
        Cane (capt)
        Ioane
        TTT
        Mo'unga
        Rayasi
        Goodhue
        Ioane
        Jordie Barrett
        Jordan

        Sub : Aumua, Karl T, Lomax, Barrett (or Seu), Savea, Enari, ALB, DMac

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          Once he has played a few more tests, Jack Goodhue has a shout at being ABs captain.

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          • MN5M MN5

            @sparky said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

            @mn5 My sauces tell me that DMac pulls with a hamstring injury so Willl Jordan gets his Test Debut.

            Special sauces?

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            @mn5 said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

            @sparky said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

            @mn5 My sauces tell me that DMac pulls with a hamstring injury so Willl Jordan gets his Test Debut.

            Special sauces?

            It is like reading tea leaves I guess. Soothsayers used to read entrails so why not a sauce?

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              @Snowy @MN5
              A sauce is a well known TSF point, place or person from which information originates. From the days of @BartMan
              .

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              • boobooB booboo

                @Snowy @MN5
                A sauce is a well known TSF point, place or person from which information originates. From the days of @BartMan
                .

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                @booboo said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                @Snowy @MN5
                A sauce is a well known TSF point, place or person from which information originates. From the days of @BartMan
                .

                Yes, aware of it, but I struggle to get much information from condiments as a general rule.

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                • SnowyS Snowy

                  @booboo said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                  @Snowy @MN5
                  A sauce is a well known TSF point, place or person from which information originates. From the days of @BartMan
                  .

                  Yes, aware of it, but I struggle to get much information from condiments as a general rule.

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                  @snowy said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                  @booboo said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                  @Snowy @MN5
                  A sauce is a well known TSF point, place or person from which information originates. From the days of @BartMan
                  .

                  Yes, aware of it, but I struggle to get much information from condiments as a general rule.

                  Only a general rule. That's why they're special.

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                  • BonesB Bones

                    @snowy said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                    @booboo said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                    @Snowy @MN5
                    A sauce is a well known TSF point, place or person from which information originates. From the days of @BartMan
                    .

                    Yes, aware of it, but I struggle to get much information from condiments as a general rule.

                    Only a general rule. That's why they're special.

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                    @bones said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                    @snowy said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                    @booboo said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                    @Snowy @MN5
                    A sauce is a well known TSF point, place or person from which information originates. From the days of @BartMan
                    .

                    Yes, aware of it, but I struggle to get much information from condiments as a general rule.

                    Only a general rule. That's why they're special.

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                    • C cgrant

                      NZ vs Scotland 2020 :

                      OfaT
                      Taylor
                      Laulala
                      Retallick
                      Parkinson
                      Luke Jacobson
                      Cane (capt)
                      Ioane
                      TTT
                      Mo'unga
                      Rayasi
                      Goodhue
                      Ioane
                      Jordie Barrett
                      Jordan

                      Sub : Aumua, Karl T, Lomax, Barrett (or Seu), Savea, Enari, ALB, DMac

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                      @cgrant Your love fair with Ofa T at LHP is ridiculous, he is not a Test standard LHP!! THP definitely.

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                        Remember this is a squad for 2020 so he's got plenty of time to become a very good LHP. The other options could be Joe Moody (but a bit too old by 2020 or will be earning money in the NH), Big Karl T, Aidan Ross and Hodgman. Surely a bit too early for Tamati Williams. Who do you see there ?

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                        • C cgrant

                          Remember this is a squad for 2020 so he's got plenty of time to become a very good LHP. The other options could be Joe Moody (but a bit too old by 2020 or will be earning money in the NH), Big Karl T, Aidan Ross and Hodgman. Surely a bit too early for Tamati Williams. Who do you see there ?

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                          @cgrant Ofa will be playing most of, if not all his rugby at Super level at tighthead, then he'll suddenly be the starting loosehead for the All Blacks?

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                          • number9N number9

                            @cgrant Your love fair with Ofa T at LHP is ridiculous, he is not a Test standard LHP!! THP definitely.

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                            @number9 said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                            @cgrant Your love fair with Ofa T at LHP is ridiculous, he is not a Test standard LHP!! THP definitely.

                            the entire nothern tour begs to differ

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                            • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                              @number9 said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                              @cgrant Your love fair with Ofa T at LHP is ridiculous, he is not a Test standard LHP!! THP definitely.

                              the entire nothern tour begs to differ

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                              @mariner4life said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                              @number9 said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                              @cgrant Your love fair with Ofa T at LHP is ridiculous, he is not a Test standard LHP!! THP definitely.

                              the entire nothern tour begs to differ

                              Problem is he is very inconsistent, as for the Northern Tour it wasn't exactly a screaming success. The refs played a big part in our wins.

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                              • number9N number9

                                @mariner4life said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                                @number9 said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                                @cgrant Your love fair with Ofa T at LHP is ridiculous, he is not a Test standard LHP!! THP definitely.

                                the entire nothern tour begs to differ

                                Problem is he is very inconsistent, as for the Northern Tour it wasn't exactly a screaming success. The refs played a big part in our wins.

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                                @number9 said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                                @mariner4life said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                                @number9 said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                                @cgrant Your love fair with Ofa T at LHP is ridiculous, he is not a Test standard LHP!! THP definitely.

                                the entire nothern tour begs to differ

                                Problem is he is very inconsistent, as for the Northern Tour it wasn't exactly a screaming success. The refs played a big part in our wins.

                                dude you are all over the shop.

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                                • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                  @number9 said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                                  @mariner4life said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                                  @number9 said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                                  @cgrant Your love fair with Ofa T at LHP is ridiculous, he is not a Test standard LHP!! THP definitely.

                                  the entire nothern tour begs to differ

                                  Problem is he is very inconsistent, as for the Northern Tour it wasn't exactly a screaming success. The refs played a big part in our wins.

                                  dude you are all over the shop.

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                                  @mariner4life I'm just not some little fan boy. If you think the ABs played well on the Northern Tour then your standards are low.

                                  Call it for what it is!

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                                    @mariner4life I'm just not some little fan boy. If you think the ABs played well on the Northern Tour then your standards are low.

                                    Call it for what it is!

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                                    @number9 said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                                    @mariner4life I'm just not some little fan boy. If you think the ABs played well on the Northern Tour then your standards are low.

                                    Call it for what it is!

                                    Weird, you start off on Ofa and somehow invent an argument about m4l being a "fanboy" about the ABs playing well on the northern tour. OK then...

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                                      #61

                                      looks like a classic fern argument right there...appears one of the 2 posters has mis-read the others post...cos it seems they were saying the same thing (ABs were not that good on the NH tour)

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                                      • BonesB Bones

                                        @number9 said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                                        @mariner4life I'm just not some little fan boy. If you think the ABs played well on the Northern Tour then your standards are low.

                                        Call it for what it is!

                                        Weird, you start off on Ofa and somehow invent an argument about m4l being a "fanboy" about the ABs playing well on the northern tour. OK then...

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                                        @bones said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                                        @number9 said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                                        @mariner4life I'm just not some little fan boy. If you think the ABs played well on the Northern Tour then your standards are low.

                                        Call it for what it is!

                                        Weird, you start off on Ofa and somehow invent an argument about m4l being a "fanboy" about the ABs playing well on the northern tour. OK then...

                                        Isn't it spelt 'fanboi'?

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                                        • CrucialC Crucial

                                          Backs will be fine. We have enough core young players that will carry through a cycle (Mounga, TTT, ALB, Goodhue, Reiko, DMac) and plenty of upcoming talent to add in and experiment before upping the experience levels.

                                          Forwards looking OK in the front row and any other problems are no different to what we always face.

                                          The big question for the next cycle is captaincy. SW probably won't be there. Cane has a cloud over him (and is better not being Cap IMO). Coles? Maybe his time off will have extended his career or shown him that he needs to look at the money before his career ends. BBBR is a dark horse option although I can see him looking for an earner at some point through the cycle which wouldn't be ideal for a captain.

                                          I can't see that we want a stopgap captain. Ideally we want someone to own the role and build a reputation.

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                                          @crucial said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                                          Backs will be fine. We have enough core young players that will carry through a cycle (Mounga, TTT, ALB, Goodhue, Reiko, DMac)

                                          A good mix of pace and strength and loads of talent with minimal showboating. (DMac, for example, may make the odd wrong decision but a selfish player he isn't).

                                          That backline could be very, very special.

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