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  • BonesB Bones

    @snowy said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

    @booboo said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

    @Snowy @MN5
    A sauce is a well known TSF point, place or person from which information originates. From the days of @BartMan
    .

    Yes, aware of it, but I struggle to get much information from condiments as a general rule.

    Only a general rule. That's why they're special.

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    @bones said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

    @snowy said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

    @booboo said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

    @Snowy @MN5
    A sauce is a well known TSF point, place or person from which information originates. From the days of @BartMan
    .

    Yes, aware of it, but I struggle to get much information from condiments as a general rule.

    Only a general rule. That's why they're special.

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    • C cgrant

      NZ vs Scotland 2020 :

      OfaT
      Taylor
      Laulala
      Retallick
      Parkinson
      Luke Jacobson
      Cane (capt)
      Ioane
      TTT
      Mo'unga
      Rayasi
      Goodhue
      Ioane
      Jordie Barrett
      Jordan

      Sub : Aumua, Karl T, Lomax, Barrett (or Seu), Savea, Enari, ALB, DMac

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      @cgrant Your love fair with Ofa T at LHP is ridiculous, he is not a Test standard LHP!! THP definitely.

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        Remember this is a squad for 2020 so he's got plenty of time to become a very good LHP. The other options could be Joe Moody (but a bit too old by 2020 or will be earning money in the NH), Big Karl T, Aidan Ross and Hodgman. Surely a bit too early for Tamati Williams. Who do you see there ?

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        • C cgrant

          Remember this is a squad for 2020 so he's got plenty of time to become a very good LHP. The other options could be Joe Moody (but a bit too old by 2020 or will be earning money in the NH), Big Karl T, Aidan Ross and Hodgman. Surely a bit too early for Tamati Williams. Who do you see there ?

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          @cgrant Ofa will be playing most of, if not all his rugby at Super level at tighthead, then he'll suddenly be the starting loosehead for the All Blacks?

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          • number9N number9

            @cgrant Your love fair with Ofa T at LHP is ridiculous, he is not a Test standard LHP!! THP definitely.

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            @number9 said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

            @cgrant Your love fair with Ofa T at LHP is ridiculous, he is not a Test standard LHP!! THP definitely.

            the entire nothern tour begs to differ

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            • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

              @number9 said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

              @cgrant Your love fair with Ofa T at LHP is ridiculous, he is not a Test standard LHP!! THP definitely.

              the entire nothern tour begs to differ

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              @mariner4life said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

              @number9 said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

              @cgrant Your love fair with Ofa T at LHP is ridiculous, he is not a Test standard LHP!! THP definitely.

              the entire nothern tour begs to differ

              Problem is he is very inconsistent, as for the Northern Tour it wasn't exactly a screaming success. The refs played a big part in our wins.

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              • number9N number9

                @mariner4life said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                @number9 said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                @cgrant Your love fair with Ofa T at LHP is ridiculous, he is not a Test standard LHP!! THP definitely.

                the entire nothern tour begs to differ

                Problem is he is very inconsistent, as for the Northern Tour it wasn't exactly a screaming success. The refs played a big part in our wins.

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                @number9 said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                @mariner4life said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                @number9 said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                @cgrant Your love fair with Ofa T at LHP is ridiculous, he is not a Test standard LHP!! THP definitely.

                the entire nothern tour begs to differ

                Problem is he is very inconsistent, as for the Northern Tour it wasn't exactly a screaming success. The refs played a big part in our wins.

                dude you are all over the shop.

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                • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                  @number9 said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                  @mariner4life said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                  @number9 said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                  @cgrant Your love fair with Ofa T at LHP is ridiculous, he is not a Test standard LHP!! THP definitely.

                  the entire nothern tour begs to differ

                  Problem is he is very inconsistent, as for the Northern Tour it wasn't exactly a screaming success. The refs played a big part in our wins.

                  dude you are all over the shop.

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                  @mariner4life I'm just not some little fan boy. If you think the ABs played well on the Northern Tour then your standards are low.

                  Call it for what it is!

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                  • number9N number9

                    @mariner4life I'm just not some little fan boy. If you think the ABs played well on the Northern Tour then your standards are low.

                    Call it for what it is!

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                    @number9 said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                    @mariner4life I'm just not some little fan boy. If you think the ABs played well on the Northern Tour then your standards are low.

                    Call it for what it is!

                    Weird, you start off on Ofa and somehow invent an argument about m4l being a "fanboy" about the ABs playing well on the northern tour. OK then...

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                      #61

                      looks like a classic fern argument right there...appears one of the 2 posters has mis-read the others post...cos it seems they were saying the same thing (ABs were not that good on the NH tour)

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                      • BonesB Bones

                        @number9 said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                        @mariner4life I'm just not some little fan boy. If you think the ABs played well on the Northern Tour then your standards are low.

                        Call it for what it is!

                        Weird, you start off on Ofa and somehow invent an argument about m4l being a "fanboy" about the ABs playing well on the northern tour. OK then...

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                        @bones said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                        @number9 said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                        @mariner4life I'm just not some little fan boy. If you think the ABs played well on the Northern Tour then your standards are low.

                        Call it for what it is!

                        Weird, you start off on Ofa and somehow invent an argument about m4l being a "fanboy" about the ABs playing well on the northern tour. OK then...

                        Isn't it spelt 'fanboi'?

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                        • CrucialC Crucial

                          Backs will be fine. We have enough core young players that will carry through a cycle (Mounga, TTT, ALB, Goodhue, Reiko, DMac) and plenty of upcoming talent to add in and experiment before upping the experience levels.

                          Forwards looking OK in the front row and any other problems are no different to what we always face.

                          The big question for the next cycle is captaincy. SW probably won't be there. Cane has a cloud over him (and is better not being Cap IMO). Coles? Maybe his time off will have extended his career or shown him that he needs to look at the money before his career ends. BBBR is a dark horse option although I can see him looking for an earner at some point through the cycle which wouldn't be ideal for a captain.

                          I can't see that we want a stopgap captain. Ideally we want someone to own the role and build a reputation.

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                          @crucial said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                          Backs will be fine. We have enough core young players that will carry through a cycle (Mounga, TTT, ALB, Goodhue, Reiko, DMac)

                          A good mix of pace and strength and loads of talent with minimal showboating. (DMac, for example, may make the odd wrong decision but a selfish player he isn't).

                          That backline could be very, very special.

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                          • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                            @crucial said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                            Backs will be fine. We have enough core young players that will carry through a cycle (Mounga, TTT, ALB, Goodhue, Reiko, DMac)

                            A good mix of pace and strength and loads of talent with minimal showboating. (DMac, for example, may make the odd wrong decision but a selfish player he isn't).

                            That backline could be very, very special.

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                            @victor-meldrew said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                            @crucial said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                            Backs will be fine. We have enough core young players that will carry through a cycle (Mounga, TTT, ALB, Goodhue, Reiko, DMac)

                            A good mix of pace and strength and loads of talent with minimal showboating. (DMac, for example, may make the odd wrong decision but a selfish player he isn't).

                            That backline could be very, very special.

                            Have you never seen Reiko Ioane score a try?

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                            • MN5M MN5

                              @victor-meldrew said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                              @crucial said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                              Backs will be fine. We have enough core young players that will carry through a cycle (Mounga, TTT, ALB, Goodhue, Reiko, DMac)

                              A good mix of pace and strength and loads of talent with minimal showboating. (DMac, for example, may make the odd wrong decision but a selfish player he isn't).

                              That backline could be very, very special.

                              Have you never seen Reiko Ioane score a try?

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                              @mn5 Any winger since Wilson you mean.

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                              • KirwanK Kirwan

                                @mn5 Any winger since Wilson you mean.

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                                @kirwan said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                                @mn5 Any winger since Wilson you mean.

                                Stu or Jeff?

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                                • SnowyS Snowy

                                  @kirwan said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                                  @mn5 Any winger since Wilson you mean.

                                  Stu or Jeff?

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                                  @snowy said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                                  @kirwan said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                                  @mn5 Any winger since Wilson you mean.

                                  Stu or Jeff?

                                  I figured the stoic, unsmiling jog back to halfway ended with Goldie’s excitement.

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                                  • KirwanK Kirwan

                                    @snowy said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                                    @kirwan said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                                    @mn5 Any winger since Wilson you mean.

                                    Stu or Jeff?

                                    I figured the stoic, unsmiling jog back to halfway ended with Goldie’s excitement.

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                                    @kirwan I used to love the way Stu Wilson, John Kirwan and Jonah Lomu hardly celebrated, even after scoring spectacular tries. They'd jog back to the half way as if scoring Test tries was the most natural act in the world for them. As someone put it "Does the postie celebrate delivering a letter?"

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                                    • sparkyS sparky

                                      @kirwan I used to love the way Stu Wilson, John Kirwan and Jonah Lomu hardly celebrated, even after scoring spectacular tries. They'd jog back to the half way as if scoring Test tries was the most natural act in the world for them. As someone put it "Does the postie celebrate delivering a letter?"

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                                      @sparky said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                                      @kirwan I used to love the way Stu Wilson, John Kirwan and Jonah Lomu hardly celebrated, even after scoring spectacular tries. They'd jog back to the half way as if scoring Test tries was the most natural act in the world for them. As someone put it "Does the postie celebrate delivering a letter?"

                                      No one poker faced better than Cullen even after stepping seven Scots in his second ever fucken test match !

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                                      • KirwanK Kirwan

                                        @snowy said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                                        @kirwan said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                                        @mn5 Any winger since Wilson you mean.

                                        Stu or Jeff?

                                        I figured the stoic, unsmiling jog back to halfway ended with Goldie’s excitement.

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                                        @kirwan said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                                        @snowy said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                                        @kirwan said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                                        @mn5 Any winger since Wilson you mean.

                                        Stu or Jeff?

                                        I figured the stoic, unsmiling jog back to halfway ended with Goldie’s excitement.

                                        He shelved most of the in black didn't he? I remember the raised fists in the '95 Bleidsloe in the same corner as the Greegan tackle and that shocked look at the MCG but not much else over the top. At the time Zinny was celebrating droppies and Fitzy was pretty cheeky with celebrating his tries around that point too.

                                        Didn't even think the celebrations got over the top until that saluting stuff filtered in from the Canes.

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                                          @kirwan said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                                          @snowy said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                                          @kirwan said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                                          @mn5 Any winger since Wilson you mean.

                                          Stu or Jeff?

                                          I figured the stoic, unsmiling jog back to halfway ended with Goldie’s excitement.

                                          He shelved most of the in black didn't he? I remember the raised fists in the '95 Bleidsloe in the same corner as the Greegan tackle and that shocked look at the MCG but not much else over the top. At the time Zinny was celebrating droppies and Fitzy was pretty cheeky with celebrating his tries around that point too.

                                          Didn't even think the celebrations got over the top until that saluting stuff filtered in from the Canes.

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                                          @rotated

                                          Nah, I blame Carlos Spencer and Justin Marshall. Both of who used to grin like drunk possums after scoring. Los and Meg brought a whole metrosexual vibe into the ABs camp that they're still struggling to recover from even 20 years later.

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