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I don't condone death threats, but she really should have thought about her actions. Those Instagram posts were in such poor taste, any sympathy let right then and there
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12178902
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@canefan said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
I don't condone death threats, but she really should have thought about her actions. Those Instagram posts were in such poor taste, any sympathy let right then and there
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12178902
Another lawyer trying to pretend what she did wasn’t as bad as people are making out .
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@jegga said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@canefan said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
I don't condone death threats, but she really should have thought about her actions. Those Instagram posts were in such poor taste, any sympathy let right then and there
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12178902
Another lawyer trying to pretend what she did wasn’t as bad as people are making out .
143,000 people aren't buying it
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@canefan said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@jegga said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@canefan said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
I don't condone death threats, but she really should have thought about her actions. Those Instagram posts were in such poor taste, any sympathy let right then and there
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12178902
Another lawyer trying to pretend what she did wasn’t as bad as people are making out .
143,000 people aren't buying it
Home detention is a tough sentence according to him . Yeah , nah .
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...and in Australian news.....
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=12178468
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@canefan said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
I don't condone death threats, but she really should have thought about her actions. Those Instagram posts were in such poor taste, any sympathy let right then and there
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12178902
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The lawyers and the judge are all working within the framework of the law. I don't doubt the judge could have put a harsher sentence on her... but still not that harsh. Little actually made an OK comment that the law hasn't been reviewed in a long time so maybe it should be. I agree, I'd like to see way fucking tougher sentences for reckless driving like this.
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@no-quarter said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
The lawyers and the judge are all working within the framework of the law. I don't doubt the judge could have put a harsher sentence on her... but still not that harsh. Little actually made an OK comment that the law hasn't been reviewed in a long time so maybe it should be. I agree, I'd like to see way fucking tougher sentences for reckless driving like this.
The only punishment she is likely to face is a little cyber outrage. Even that won't last, as people move to the next thing
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@no-quarter yeah nah...in my old job I used to see Judges summing of cases in relation to charges following a Motor Accident (some fatal) and it would seem many motor 'incidents' seem to be looked at in a different light than similar result from non-motor incidents...as per the Lawyer statement 'it was an accident' regardless of being under the influence, where it should not be an accident (although that might where you are correct in that as it involved a vehicle, it is deemed a motor 'accident')
Worst one I saw (as mentioned earlier) was from a fatality, a dude and his mate had been racing and overtaking have hit and killed a guy on his way home from a Tangi...Judge said he felt Home Detention was harder for him than prison time due to being a prisoner in your own home (with fridge of food, alcohol, TV, Sky, PS$/Xbow, mates visit etc)
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@taniwharugby said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@no-quarter yeah nah...in my old job I used to see Judges summing of cases in relation to charges following a Motor Accident (some fatal) and it would seem many motor 'incidents' seem to be looked at in a different light than similar result from non-motor incidents...as per the Lawyer statement 'it was an accident' regardless of being under the influence, where it should not be an accident.
Worst one I saw (as mentioned earlier) was from a fatality, a dude and his mate had been racing and overtaking have hit and killed a guy on his way home from a Tangi...Judge said he felt Home Detention was harder for him than prison time due to being a prisoner in your own home (with fridge of food, alcohol, TV, Sky, PS$/Xbow, mates visit etc)
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Hot off the press from Stuff so maybe check back in a couple of hours after the hateful comments are up....
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@mn5 said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
Hot off the press from Stuff so maybe check back in a couple of hours after the hateful comments are up....
It will be interesting to see who Stuff hates more...
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@antipodean said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@mn5 said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
Hot off the press from Stuff so maybe check back in a couple of hours after the hateful comments are up....
It will be interesting to see who Stuff hates more...
Indeed. In that regard it's not unlike the cricket test series across the ditch.
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@taniwharugby said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@jegga anytime you drive a vehicle while under the influence and crash, it should never be considered an 'accident'
If someone was out hunting while under the influence and accidentally shot another person, would that still be deemed an accident and therefore be granted home d?
so this article says she was 'drunken'.. but the next one says she wasn't, had just had something to drink earlier in the way.. something that thousands of people do every day - and is legal...
which was it? pretty important point.. cause one is 'ok to drive' one is 'should not have been in a car'.Also, although she's obviously a piece of sh*t.. i also look to the 'first infringement'.. which was the kid went through a red light. I think people are missing that.
as a cyclist i'm pretty adamant you go thru a red and get hit it's your fault - and it's a pretty shtty situation to put a driver in who now has to deal with your sht decision.
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@williethewaiter said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@taniwharugby said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@jegga anytime you drive a vehicle while under the influence and crash, it should never be considered an 'accident'
If someone was out hunting while under the influence and accidentally shot another person, would that still be deemed an accident and therefore be granted home d?
so this article says she was 'drunken'.. but the next one says she wasn't, had just had something to drink earlier in the way.. something that thousands of people do every day - and is legal...
which was it? pretty important point.. cause one is 'ok to drive' one is 'should not have been in a car'.Also, although she's obviously a piece of sh*t.. i also look to the 'first infringement'.. which was the kid went through a red light. I think people are missing that.
as a cyclist i'm pretty adamant you go thru a red and get hit it's your fault - and it's a pretty shtty situation to put a driver in who now has to deal with your sht decision.
As the mum of the kid said, she had a lot of sympathy for the girl. It was all those instagram posts that turned the tide of opinion against her. Tasteless, remorseless, millenially stupid
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@williethewaiter she is under 20, zero limit?
So 'drunk' might be overstating it...although if she had a few drinks and some weed, you'd have to think that has influenced her ability to drive safely, as evidenced by running a red light and pissing off as well.
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@williethewaiter said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@taniwharugby said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@jegga anytime you drive a vehicle while under the influence and crash, it should never be considered an 'accident'
If someone was out hunting while under the influence and accidentally shot another person, would that still be deemed an accident and therefore be granted home d?
so this article says she was 'drunken'.. but the next one says she wasn't, had just had something to drink earlier in the way.. something that thousands of people do every day - and is legal...
which was it? pretty important point.. cause one is 'ok to drive' one is 'should not have been in a car'.Also, although she's obviously a piece of sh*t.. i also look to the 'first infringement'.. which was the kid went through a red light. I think people are missing that.
as a cyclist i'm pretty adamant you go thru a red and get hit it's your fault - and it's a pretty shtty situation to put a driver in who now has to deal with your sht decision.
I think what has riled everyone up is the fact she drove off and gave little thought or care for the boy she hit.
Add to that the tasteless Instagram posts and you have yourself a villain.
If she did the right thing from the start then I’m sure 95% of the hate wouldn’t have happened. The parents would have likely forgiven her too. -
@virgil said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
I think what has riled everyone up is the fact she drove off and gave little thought or care for the boy she hit.
It doesn't say much for the friends who were in the car with her either.
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@virgil said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@williethewaiter said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@taniwharugby said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@jegga anytime you drive a vehicle while under the influence and crash, it should never be considered an 'accident'
If someone was out hunting while under the influence and accidentally shot another person, would that still be deemed an accident and therefore be granted home d?
so this article says she was 'drunken'.. but the next one says she wasn't, had just had something to drink earlier in the way.. something that thousands of people do every day - and is legal...
which was it? pretty important point.. cause one is 'ok to drive' one is 'should not have been in a car'.Also, although she's obviously a piece of sh*t.. i also look to the 'first infringement'.. which was the kid went through a red light. I think people are missing that.
as a cyclist i'm pretty adamant you go thru a red and get hit it's your fault - and it's a pretty shtty situation to put a driver in who now has to deal with your sht decision.
I think what has riled everyone up is the fact she drove off and gave little thought or care for the boy she hit.
Add to that the tasteless Instagram posts and you have yourself a villain.
If she did the right thing from the start then I’m sure 95% of the hate wouldn’t have happened. The parents would have likely forgiven her too.Even after driving off the kid's mum said she felt sympathy for the girl
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